The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

But people who attach no importance to the fictional universe, the "non-fans", don't go through this because they have no investment into their mental model of a fictional universe that they don't value

I don't think Cuckmann is a non-fan since he wrote TLOU1. But he doesn't value his creation and that's very sad.
 
I saw someone on reddit mentioning Abby's arms used to be smaller in the first trailer she appeared (2017) than in game. I actually found a comparison video and yeah turns out it's truth.


I still see people bringing up trailer abby to show how muscular she is but trailer abby was actually LESS muscular.

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While trailer abby is still muscular, her ingame game looks cartoonishly swollen in comparison. I dont know what happened but Neil one decided decided to put a cannonball inside her arms.


Someone on reddit also mentioned that one of Neil's original idea for Last of us was to be called MANkind and be a story about how every woman in the planet became zombie except ellie. The only reason that didnt work out was the female workers at ND mentioned this idea was kinda sexist and fucked up. Hilariously, LISA: The painful would use a very similar idea much better.


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Turns out druckman really hates women afterall.
 

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I don't think Cuckmann is a non-fan since he wrote TLOU1. But he doesn't value his creation and that's very sad.
No, he over values his own writing. He genuinely thinks his script is good. Someone posted on reddit a metacritic review that explains it perfect too.
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Makes a lot of good points why it's so bad. Especially the characterization.
 
These people seem to either forget, or stopped giving a shit, that they're making a sequel (or in cases like Fantastic Beasts, a prequel) to a product. In the process of "challenging expectations", they destroy characters like Joel and uplift characters that are very much forgettable or hated. This is the same shit that happened with The Last Jedi. The once hopeful and courageous Luke Skywalker turns into a fucking hermit for such piss-poor (if any) reasons and people are supposed to deal with that and focus more on Rey.

In that light, when we watch an anecdotal universe, we're learning the standards of that universe, its history, and its characters. We do this normally with the goal that we can comprehend, anticipate, and respond to occasions, similarly as we would in reality. A standard infringement triggers a mind's "I've misread everything!" reaction in a way not proposed by the writer, rather than a writer releasing an energizing huge uncover or "aha!" second - "No Luke, I am your father!" When a group infringement occurs, rather than moving with the story, the watcher is confounded and attempting to accommodate the new information with the old model. They're in a high-stress state since they've unexpectedly understood that their psychological model of the anecdotal world might be lethally defective, and that is never an agreeable state for a wise being who thinks the exactness of his psychological model is significant.

But people who attach no importance to the fictional universe, the "non-fans", don't go through this because they have no investment into their mental model of a fictional universe that they don't value. Non-fans won't have a reaction to a canon violation, anymore than a bass fisherman would react to a Paris fashion faux pas. They neither know nor care and just enjoy the pretty show. But a fan's enjoyment will likely be destroyed as their Destruction and Creation cycle gets triggered. They are sitting in their seat, madly trying to make sense of a shocking revelation, yet it is a revelation the author never intended, and one certainly never intended to be upsetting and stressful. The blissfully ignorant author thought it would just be cool if a character could suddenly do X, Y, or Z, while the fan is reacting as if he'd just beheld a scene that said Jesus was gay or water flows uphill. He's taken completely out of the movie and spends the rest of it wrestling with the logical contradictions and implications. He comes out upset and unsettled.
speaking of someone who went though a experience of a beloved franchise "subverting expectations" (It was Zero Time Dilemma, The Third Zero escape game.) i can garuentee i went though the experience of "Destruction and Creation" as i went though a very autistic rage while playing the game. (the game itself is a classic example of how to piss off your audience). i remember posting a extreme sperg out as a review due to how it got me so angry and betrayed.
i felt VERY betrayed due to the fact that it destroyed and invalidated the previous game, Virtues Last Reward, by going all in into the "rick and morty" level of nihilistic pretension, pretty much saying that the purpose and event's of the prior one were pointless and futile because "nothing matters". and because the game is a pile of hot garbage when compared to its predecessors.
How bad is it? One of the main twist's involves 1/3rd being told first person by the game's antagonist, who was just out of the camrea's view the entire time, pretending to be a BLIND OLD DEAF MAN that the characters do not find remotely suspicious at all. (and considering the prior games, the returning characters SHOULD considering most of them are extremely intelligent and clever.)
And now the cycle is repeating once again. when will writers learn that they will get no where betraying their audience? considering the state of disney star wars, you'd think they should know by now. but NOPE!
 
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Agreed but she's not gonna go away scott free since Ellie bit her so now Abby is infected. Not that it makes it any less worse, because she was intended to live anyway, and because Neil Cuckman completely forgot about his own fucking plot that he himself wrote.

The big twist in TLOU3 will be Abby is immune just like Ellie. I'm only half joking, there is some flashback dialog between her dad the doctor and some black woman who tries to talk him down from operating on Ellie. She says "what would you do if this was your daught" but it'll turn out his daughter was immune all along, because that is the kind of hack Druckmann is.

Oh and did Ellie give her big nose GF the gift through carpet munching?
 
If you are referring to Keystone's picture, that is Ashley Johnson on Duckmann's lap. I doubt Laura or Ashley would try to cancel Duckmann like how Rial and Marchi tried to cancel Vic.

Yes I'm aware. Now that Abby is confirmed biologically female she isnr going to get shit for taking the role and her career won't suffer.....and Troy too.

Ashley is the literal only good thing about the series.
 
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If they only “transitioned” to escape being a child bride, are they even fucking trans? How’s that different from, say, Mulan, who pretends to be a man in order to join the military but doesn’t actually believe herself to be male?

A young girl who masquerades as a boy post-apocalypse in order to avoid unwanted attention is an interesting concept for a character, but of COURSE it’s fucking impossible to do in 2020 without inserting tranny politics.
Bruh, thats the fucking plot of lisa with buddy and brad
 
It's already there if this holds.



I need to stop expecting better of Sony fans.
 
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So, tell me Ellie, was it really worth it? Was it worth it to smoke weed and scissoring the town bike while you were searching for him?
Was this one of the memories you had when you were trying to play his guitar with two missing fingers, with your loved ones either gone or dead?
 
If you are referring to Keystone's picture, that is Ashley Johnson on Duckmann's lap. I doubt Laura or Ashley would try to cancel Duckmann like how Rial and Marchi tried to cancel Vic.
Never say never. Vic thought Rial/Marchi were normal nice friends, right up until they revealed they weren't. A lot of these people in the industry just aren't good or normal, and navigating that in #MeToo era bullshit leaves no man safe. I don't wish for that to happen even to Druckmann, utter jerkoff that he is. Unless of course he hypothetically did do something untoward, in which case fuck him. But given his narcissism, I doubt he cared to sexually abuse anyone other than his own meat.
 
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