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Plus incredibly retarded. Cutting somebody's brain out and huffing it won't heal people magically. And that breeding is never ever even considered for a fucking second is nuts to me. I don't know, maybe freezer her eggs before nuking her brain, hell, is it even something genetic she can even transfer? How are they so sure without even having looked at her proper it's anything they can even create antibodies from and not a freak combination of coincidences in her system? And leaving that aside, how the fuck do they distribute, it? How the fuck do they synthesize it? What will be their criteria for who they give it to or not? What makes the viewer think they won't weaponize the fuck out of it?
It wouldn't just be present in her blood, but her spinal fluid as well. You can get samples via a spinal tap, which is what they do for meningitis. You can get brain samples without killing the subject, too, but it's more or less said the Fireflies didn't have the equipment or expertise to properly extract the fungal infection.

It's stated in game infected blood has the cordyceps growing in it, yet Ellie has antibodies within her blood. Since it's fungal based, you'd need anti fungal/anti parasitic medicine, which isn't exactly a vaccine. you can make one, but you'd need a vaccinologist and a mycologist for that, and the Fireflies have neither. Their sole biologist died because he was a retard.

If Joel wanted, he could seek out the remnants of the military (they still exist in game), and see if they have military scientists. They'd be the ones to properly concoct a cure.

Like TWD, Joel would either need to go to the CDC facility in Atlanta, or USAMRIID in Virginia.
Wasn't there a note or something that basically described her antibodies keeping the fungus cells in check?

Wouldn't it make sense to test her blood first by adding in other infected cells to see what happens?

Since Kneel has turned his "game" into a show how high are the chances a legitimate doctor sees the "unga bunga smash open her brain" scene?
Yeah. It's either a note or an audio recording from the surgeon noting it. Rather than spend a week testing, they immediately jumped to surgery. Joel was right - they never had the intention of keeping Ellie alive, and it's said somewhere in game they killed seven other people, immune like Ellie, on that operating table.
 
Given how he too believes that the people who had complaints about TLOUII were a "minor segment of gamers", I'm not having high hopes for the next part. The only reason the fist part of the show was even watchable is because it was adapting the much better first game (which Druckmann didn't have complete control over).

Speaking of which, while reflecting on the second game and why the whole "revenge and violence is bad" message didn't work out, I didn't come to another realization until I saw how Filmento pointed out that the Origins Wolverine movie failed because it tried to combine three incompatible stories into one, resulting in none of them working. TLOUII suffers pretty much the same problem.

Looking at an overview of the game, you can see that it too wants to tell multiple stories and themes. It's a revenge story where Ellie tracks down Joel's killers and makes them pay for their actions. It's a redemption story where both Ellie and Abby try to become a better people and learns that violence and killing is a a vicious cycle that must be broken. And it's also a story that deals with fallouts and repercussions of one's actions, as seen by how the game infamously treats Joel's character.

Any one of those three stories could've made for a great sequel, and had Druckmann just focused on one of them, I honestly think that the game, while perhaps not perfect, would've been far better and a much more satisfying experience for both the fans and the critics. Heck, the first game itself was laser focused on just one narrative thread (how relationships are tested in dire circumstances and the like), and is why, while I'm not the biggest fan of the game, I can at least accept it as a coherent story with a satisfying through-line, to the point where I can even go so far as to understand why it got such praise from the critics.

But in the sequel, Druckmann seemed to have eyes bigger than his writing skills, and thus tried to combine all three story ideas into the one sequel, which not only resulted in it being much longer than it needed to be, but because they are pretty much incompatible with each other, each of them end up cancelling out the others strengths to the point that none of them work, and the story ends up being a complete mess that can't really decide on a particular theme, because they are in constant conflict with each other.

People say that TLOUII is a revenge story and about the consequences of it, but if it was just that, then I don't think the story would be as sloppy as it is. The real problem is that it's trying to be more. It's a revenge story about killing, along with being a redemption story about not killing, that has been uncomfortably saddled with the burden of also dealing with the idea of consequences for one's actions. And the result is a complete mess.

Why Druckmann decided to try cramming three stories in one I have no idea.
 
I have the original last of us on PlayStation but never played it. Is it worth playing because so far every new product from the series looks like shit
 

"She´s carrying cordyceps since birth that´s the reason for her immunity"

"her cordyceps produces a message that tells other cordyceps strains "fuckoff my host" and if we kill her we can multiply that strain in our meth lab"

Brave Cuckmann you´ve proven me right in that letting Ellie breed she would always pass on her immunity to her children.

Thx Synthetic Man for watching Neil´s crap.
 
If Joel wanted, he could seek out the remnants of the military (they still exist in game), and see if they have military scientists. They'd be the ones to properly concoct a cure.

Like TWD, Joel would either need to go to the CDC facility in Atlanta, or USAMRIID in Virginia.
That's actually what I thought a sequel would be about all the way back in 2013, trying to find the remnants of the US military instead of the Fireflies, would have provided the perfect excuse for another cross country trip.

Obviously everything about II is insane, but it's also weird that they didn't go with the most obvious idea for a sequel like that.

Other infected people it says. The surgeon even says that Ellie's immunity is nothing like he'd ever seen before.
It's a weird way of trying to have their cake and eat it too, making it seem like Joel is more justified in doing what he did, while also still saying Ellie would likely provide a cure.

Doesn't make a ton of sense, either way I missed it when I played it, so for all I knew Ellie really would have provided a cure, feels like a last minute addition.

I had mixed thoughts on that trend with games back then of hiding bits of lore in easily missed places, seemed like a cheap way to add replay value or sell strategy guides.

I have the original last of us on PlayStation but never played it. Is it worth playing because so far every new product from the series looks like shit
The franchise's name is mud, so people are loath to say anything positive about anything with "Last of Us" in the title, but I loved the 2013 game, I do think it's worth playing or at least was, gonna be hard to separate it from everything else and enjoy it for what it is though now.

It's a perfect microcosm of how shitty our culture has gotten, at the time it was mind blowing to see the devs behind the cartoony Crash Bandicoot games be able to wring compelling human drama out of polygons, it was interesting to see western devs actually catching up to Japanese games like Silent Hill 2, for a hot minute "games as art" actually produced interesting stuff and threatened to take games in an interesting direction.

Then everything went Woke and all that potential was killed, like a proverbial golf club to the head.
 
I didn't watch the show because the main things I know about TLOU is that Druckman is a faggot and the whole TLOU2 shitshow, not to mention this screamed goyslop from the start. But what I would like to ask is: why did you watch it? I mean, the HBO seal of approval hasn't meant much for a while now, so really, why?

I am fascinated by people who ostensibly hate woke adaptations and remakes, and complain about their ubiquity on social media, and yet there they are tuning in to the latest and greatest entertainment product every week without fail. I observed this happening with Rings of Power, TLOU, and countless others. Hatewatching is still watching. At least the soyjak soyjakin' to the latest hecking gay interracial love scene from HBO's TLOU is having fun.

Isn't indifference the most damning thing you can give to these bad/pozzed entertainment products? They count on your hatewatching/morbid curiosity to drum up those views as much as they depend on the consoomers who tune in just to spite you or who watch whatever the NYT culture section tells them to. It might even wear down your standards to the point you start to like it if Mike & Rich from RLM's latest take on the new season of Picard is any indication.

Edit: I'm also surprised that the gay episode wasn't written by a woman based on what my friend who watched the show said. It sounded like a very idealized and unrealistic depiction of gay relationships. It makes me think of that bit from a MATI stream about the FtM trannies who transition because of their gay fujo fetish and then are utterly repulsed by the actual behaviors of gay men irl.
 
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It's kind of funny since most people watching are watching for Pedro pascal and seeing him get the GoT treatment from a troon and then Ellie going 'naw I ain't going to kill you because revenge is bad mkay' is going to be hysterical
That's the thing these idiots don't get. Cuckman almost certainly will still kill him due to being a pissy control freak who abuses staff and scares off women, and there's no way that people are gonna continue watching after that. The potato playing Ellie ain't that charismatic, so he's fucked unless he chickens out and "changes his vision".
 
I refuse to touch games but i did watch the show, felt like discount The Walking Dead. TWD has more characters and done better, TWD has self-contained episodes, like that TLOU ep with two homos living a prepper paradise - but it's done better and doesn't even use homo. It's better characters, better friendship, bigger stakes, and more emotionally impacting at the end. It also has better zombies. They are in every single episode, they aren't some background noise filler shit, or plot device to save our boring as fuck protagonists. What's so special about this? These stories really were super basic, like a skeleton of a series. Sure it maybe can stand on its own but you won't find any 'meat' in it. Post-apo zombie spiritual journey written by Little Timmy. It was a waste of time. I gave it a fair chance, tried to find something interesting in it - but it's just empty. It tries moments, it tries emotions, it also tries faces and places - but they are without any spark. It's almost like AI generated.
 
Joe did nothing wrong. if i had to choose between my loved ones or humanity. i choose the people I love. the greater good can fuck itself.
It was a false choice anyways, the Firefly doctor was a fucking butcher. You don't go from 0 to "Cut her brain out" in one day.

I don't give a flying rats ass what apocalypses has happened, we wouldn't lose basic medicine and scientific process in 20 years.
 
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