🐱 The latest transphobic 4chan conspiracy theory: Users are being forced into taking hormones

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https://www.dailydot.com/irl/4chan-trap-discord-trans-panic/

Warning: References to transphobic, homophobic, ableist, and racial slurs.

“First victim of the night,” the transcript read. “I won’t rest until every sissy boy on /r9k/ has started HRT [hormone replacement therapy], or at the very least crossdressing. Less shitty genes in the world and more traps for me.”

This sinister call to arms is at the heart of a complicated, transphobic conspiracy theory about 4chan’s imageboard /r9k/, known for its blatant bigotry within the already-somewhat-toxic anonymous website. The allegation: A “cabal of deranged homosexuals” are posting “trap threads, gay threads, and encouragement for people to take hormones,” as if to trick users on /r9k/ into being transgender or gender nonconforming.

These “trap threads” are allegedly being set up through a series of text chats on Discord, a discussion service for gamers, then posted to the imageboard to lure in “troubled” boys. It’s a deeply dangerous theory, first popularized in a now-deleted video from YouTuber Esoteric Poster 1388, that has since reached Reddit and the internet’s “biggest stalker community” Kiwi Farms.

If this sounds like a very layered subsect of the internet, it is. Let’s break down how a group of lonely internet denizens fell into a panic over whether “broken young men” have become “traps,” whether any of this is true, and why the rest of us normies should care.



Picking apart fact from fiction

“Trap” is a term that first emerged on 4chan, referring to an androgynous male anime character who crossdresses as a woman. These days on the platform, the word is used interchangeably to refer to transgender women, as 4chan users aren’t the most sensitive. The term is also derogatory for implying trans women “trap” straight men into having sex with them.

Hearing about “traps” in a negative light on /r9k/ is by no means a surprise, as the imageboard traditionally features NSFW content and “edgy” internet humor that often takes aim at trans people, people of color, and people on the autism spectrum, among others. Where the text-chat service Discord plays into this is that it lets players create their own servers, or topic channels, to discuss whatever they want and is left largely unmoderated. In other words, chats can often veer crude and dark, making the discussion service perfect for an imageboard like /r9k/.

In Esoteric’s video, he alleged there is a “trap Discord” and that it doesn’t let /r9k/ and 4chan users join unless they share a picture of themselves crossdressing with their face in the frame. From there—and this is where it becomes criminal—Esoteric said the group obtains users’ personal identifying information and blackmails them into taking hormone replacement therapy. He said this is based on claims posted by anonymous /r9k/ users and screencaps from the group.

However, other Discord users dispute the simplicity of Esoteric’s allegations.

Discord user support_annie was part of a server called “RGTOW,” where Reiko, the person credited with writing the infamous “first victim of the night” post, served as a prominent member. Support_annie told the Daily Dot that Reiko and several other users joked about convincing /r9k/ users to begin taking HRT by repeatedly posting threads about “traps.” The idea, which he referred to as “trap shilling,” supposedly grew from there, and moved on to another Discord server.

“It all started by, what I believe were presumably jokes. They wanted to make all the manlets take HRT,” support_annie told the Daily Dot. “There wasn’t really any strategies. It was just flooding /r9k/ with pictures of traps.”

One of RGTOW’s administrators, Waseru, told the Daily Dot that the “trap thread” posters eventually split into two groups, “those who wanted people to go on HRT and those who were just shitposting.” The initiative itself was “VERY loosely organized,” he claimed, and there were plenty of rogue posters unaffiliated with any of the Discords making their own posts.

As for the blackmailing claim, support_annie believes this did take place on the server; another user on RGTOW named Indy also told the Daily Dot that Reiko “confirmed” that blackmailing did happen. (The Daily Dot could not reach Reiko for comment.)

As of yet, though, no definitive proof exists. Esoteric himself published a second video (which was also deleted) five days after his first one caused such panic—and, in this one, he stressed there is “no evidence of the blackmail and other connections.”

Waseru also denies the allegation. “No, none of us have blackmailed anyone, that’s fucked,” Waseru told the Daily Dot. “Have you seen people with ‘Reiko’ drawn on them? All of them are Reiko’s fans/friends.”

When reached for comment about possible blackmailing and coercion happening on its service, Discord told the Daily Dot it prohibits harassing behavior:

“Discord has a Terms of Service (ToS) and Community Guidelines that we ask all of our communities and users to adhere to. These specifically prohibit harassment, threatening messages, calls to violence or any illegal activity. Though we do not read people’s private messages, we do investigate and take immediate action against any reported ToS violation by a server or user. We will continue to be aggressive to ensure that Discord exists for the community we set out to support—gamers.”



Reflecting a larger problem

Over at /r9k/, users are called “robots,” and most are stereotypically depicted as white, lonely, socially awkward men. It’s hard to know if that’s entirely true. 4chan’s advertisement section claims the site is composed of approximately 70 percent men and 30 percent women, but no specific breakdowns are given about the site’s individual imageboards, nor are there stats on how many users are queer or transgender.

Robots seem to have two contrasting views on “traps.” On the one hand, some absolutely love “trap” posts, celebrating erotic artwork featuring crossdressing anime characters and trans women—almost to the point of fetishization. Meanwhile, other users make disparaging comments about them, mostly by targeting trans women on HRT, as if they are threatened by the idea that anyone would want to be more feminine, let alone have their body align with their gender identity.

For example, in one thread, a poster shared an erotic drawing and asked “Is this what having a trap gf is like?” only for another robot to argue “most traps are mentally unstable due to hormone imbalance from HRT.”

You could say this anger over “trap threads” is partially anchored in an older beef over territory. While talking to the Daily Dot, support_annie alleged users from 4chan’s /lgbt/ section flooded /r9k/ last winter and began posting NSFW content. This, he said, is because /lgbt/ is a “blue board,” or safe-for-work, whereas /r9k/ allows adult content. Once robots both inside and outside the Discord group engaged in “trap shilling,” he claimed, /r9k/ users grew increasingly upset.

magine Chinese water torture, but with traps and HRT and other faggy shit, constantly in your face when you refresh the page looking for a thread to be in,” one robot on Kiwi Farms wrote. “This is not some shit to fuck around with. You don’t just take control overnight. You make some noise for attention, and then keep hitting and hitting and hitting, and you WILL break people down.”

But, as this post clearly shows, users’ territorial fighting is mired in transphobia and hate speech. In that way, what is happening on 4chan and Discord feels like a reflection of society at large. Fears around gender transitioning have turned transgender children into acontroversial topic, as journalists like New York Magazine’s Jesse Singal and the Stranger’s Katie Herzog have warned about the emergence of trans kids who “detransition.” It’s as if cisgender skeptics fear vulnerable people—like children or depressed men—will throw their lives away if they experiment with their gender presentation or try HRT.

Since robots don’t differentiate much between cisgender men crossdressing and transgender women—and because the latter queers gender in a way that feels weird, murky, and troubling to many cisgender people—/r9k/ seems particularly troubled by transitioning. Robots have hyper-fixated on the claim that users are being coerced into taking HRT, tapping into our societal fears that “troubled boys” will just suddenly switch genders, and that boys must be mentally deranged if they do.

Overall, ingrained misogyny and misinformation about trans people in Western culture only add to this knee-jerk response of “condemning what we don’t understand.” Even in Esoteric’s second video, he admitted that he “personally [does] think the trans stuff is wrong,” which is pretty obvious based on the hateful, antagonistic language used in his first video.

“There are some disgusting, deranged homosexual perverts out there, the likes of which you probably can’t imagine, doing the most insane things to try and further themselves,” Esoteric said in his first video. “Regardless of whether the blackmail stuff is true or not, all of this stuff is beyond the pale, it is horrific.”

This much is clear: Forcing someone to take HRT, even if they do have gender dysphoria, is indeed horrific. So is blackmail and doxing. But there’s little proof that suggests a “trap Discord” made a straightforward, strategic effort to systematically force /r9k/ users to take HRT. There is proof, however, that people on /r9k/ think that transitioning is a joke.

Despite this, “trap threads” aren’t inherently all bad—especially when users create them to share knowledge, not manipulated information. If threads are helping users consider transitioning, that just means some of /r9k/’s userbase is already experiencing gender dysphoria and other users want to help them work through it.

We can, though, put a hard stop to the term “trap.” It only encourages the toxic, bigoted beliefs that fueled the “trap Discord” conspiracy theory in the first place.




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Ana Valens
Ana Valens is a frequent contributor to the Daily Dot's IRL section, covering LGBTQ issues. Her work has previously appeared in Bitch, the Establishment, Vice's Waypoint, Rolling Stone's Glixel, and the Toast. She lives in Brooklyn, New York.


 
If only some of these "traps" put some effort into their appearance to at least somewhat pass, there is a small chance that they could be taken a bit more seriously. You could crack nuts on that jawline :oops:
 
Let’s break down how a group of lonely internet denizens fell into a panic over whether “broken young men” have become “traps,” whether any of this is true, and why the rest of us normies should care.
No thanks, I think I've heard all I need to know I don't care.
 
Is the daily dot trying to steal Buzzfeed's shittiest journalism award? They've always been bad, but this is Rolling Stone campus rape article bad. Imagine having such an ideological blind spot that you can write 'people are saying there's a conspiracy to trick guys into taking hormones on 4chan' to 'everyone I can get in touch with says it happened' and conclude that it probably didn't happen. Great job daily dot!
 
Are we still talking about this? It ended as quickly as it started: Reiko was caught lying and sank into failure with "Komm, süsser Tod" playing in the background, /r9k/ banned most if not all trap posting, the guy who made the video starting this shit left the Internet, and everyone went back to wasting their lives away.

I'll say one thing about this: if this makes "trap" a bad, taboo-filled word, I'll be geniuenly mad. Troons ≠ traps.

It continues with the conspiracy that this was a false flag orchestrated by pol

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Heh.
 
Crossposting from relevant threads.

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/mtfg/ is a pit of autism and despair. Most of the people that post there are neets that never venture outside of the house and hang out in discord servers and on /lgbt/ ERPing and pretending to be women. There is a culture of using tripcodes in /mtfg/ unlike anywhere else on 4chan, and as a result lots of drama occurs. All of the posters hate each other and the blend of anonymous posting and tripcode posting means that there is a lot of bullying that occurs due to jealousy and bitterness. I'm not sure how much of the community is actually lolworthy but you can decide that for yourself. Here are a couple of the more notable members.

Dollface aka Edie Kershaw

Dollface is the queen bee of /mtfg/. She is a camgirl and is notable within the tumblr and youtube trans communities. Her claim to fame on 4chan is 1) bullying a girl into committing suicide and then posting her suicide note and 2) having sex with Sam Hyde. She is one of the only /mtfg/ posters that lives as a woman all of the time and is straight.

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Kayla

Before /lgbt/ existed, a lot of people who post there now started posting on 420chan's /cd/ crossdressing board. Kayla was a man who posted there (this was 7-8 years ago) and trolled the trans posters, calling them fetishists, men, and having angry meltdowns. In fact, tripcodes used to be allowed on 420chan but now the board is forced anon because of Kayla.

After /lgbt/ was created, the tranny posters from /soc/ and /cd/ migrated there, and Kayla followed. Kayla turned out to be a sissy fetishist who is now on hormones, constantly posts pictures of his dick and tits, and about how much he wants to suck cock and get fucked in the ass. He also melts down all the time because other posters are much more successful at life. Until recently, Kayla lived with his mom despite being in his early 30s, and now he has a job working in retail. He claims that he used to be a professional 4wheeler racer and had a deal with monster. Kayla is also racist and complains constantly about everyone receiving handouts and having an easy life, despite living with his rich mom while being unemployed.

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I'm super surprised that any news site is covering this.

Just posted a new Reiko meme in the 4chan /lgbt/ thread

lol yeah right, no one is going to touch this story with a 10 foot pole explicitly because it involves "forced HRT". The idea of even suggesting this is a thing would obviously result in 4 million trans suicides.
 
I haven't quite figured out if I actually care about this or not, on one hand these fuckers don't know what a trap is and how it's not a troon and that [TRIGGERS] me to no end. But on the other hand I'm invested in other things that are actually relevant to my life and will improve it, HMMM.

seriously though I've seen some of the sissyfication stuff and it actually gets pretty dark in some forms, I had a buddy end up in therapy because he got addicted to sissy hypno shit and it fucked up his sense of self, I went through and checked the shit he was watching and it was classic programing shit that looked really professional and I'm sure if you relaxed and followed the instructions while watching the subliminal messaging it could have some level of effect it could do some damage (that is, if you believe in the whole hypno thing I'm somewhat skeptical but I can 100% see how some of those videos could actually mess with you)

That may not actually be 100% relevant but what ever, it just reminded me of that and creeped me the fuck out a bit.
 
If traps are to be considered part of the 'trans community' (which I don't think they are), then the term 'trap' in it's purest form is a compliment surely?

I'm very rarely on any chans any more but I remember trap threads and a lot of the typicals traps were pretty convincing. Certainly more than your typical activist type troon. To be considered a trap over a troon is surely to say 'yep, you could actually pass as a girl, and yep.. maybe I even would do you after enough bourbon'
 
If traps are to be considered part of the 'trans community' (which I don't think they are), then the term 'trap' in it's purest form is a compliment surely?

I'm very rarely on any chans any more but I remember trap threads and a lot of the typicals traps were pretty convincing. Certainly more than your typical activist type troon. To be considered a trap over a troon is surely to say 'yep, you could actually pass as a girl, and yep.. maybe I even would do you after enough bourbon'

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People freak out about "Trap" too much for that to be the case.
 
I find myself scratching my head over this one.

On one hand, the denizens of r9k probably don't have the required brainpower to actually blackmail someone successfully.

On the other, if you're stupid enough to post compromising pictures of yourself on a Chan, you're stupid enough to deserve it.


Still, the thing about traps being troons makes me giggle a bit. It's almost as though the author did zero research into the history of traps and their place in internet culture. Couldn't be that, right?
 
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