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This ass backwards way Github manages their git operations behind the scenes will one day fuck open source software, including the stuff in Linux repos, the way NPM has fucked people unfortunate enough to deal with Node. Both Go and Rust hard lock Github into their official package managers, if I remember right.
 
This ass backwards way Github manages their git operations behind the scenes will one day fuck open source software, including the stuff in Linux repos, the way NPM has fucked people unfortunate enough to deal with Node. Both Go and Rust hard lock Github into their official package managers, if I remember right.
Oof. Lucky for me I only use one rust app called zenith. I personally hope things migrate away from github over time. I know gitlab is a growing alternative among developers. megatools uses something else, I think they selfhost it. A few things still apparently use sourceforge of all things but even that seems like a better alternative. Also the NPM stuff was fucking wild to me. It would be fun to see more of it happen if means people hate big corpos more.
 
I'm thinking about switching to Mint since Windows 11 has all these stupid fucking hardware parameters. I know Mint has a Windows-esk GUI for sped folks like me, that's the only reason I picked it. Otherwise I honestly know nothing about the different Linux-s. What's the consensus on Mint here?
Mint is good if you have a reasonable system but isn't particularly great if you're trying to extend the lifespan of an older system. For those you should use a more lightweight distro or, if you're more adventurous, strip down Mint somewhat yourself.

For whatever reason it's the one distro where I don't have trouble with pesky binary blobs from nvidia and CUDA stuff installs without having to hit the machine with a rubber mallet a few times.
This ass backwards way Github manages their git operations behind the scenes will one day fuck open source software, including the stuff in Linux repos, the way NPM has fucked people unfortunate enough to deal with Node. Both Go and Rust hard lock Github into their official package managers, if I remember right.
My problem isn't so much the technical issue, although having a repository locked to one point of failure is probably a bad idea, too, but that the loony troons who run github are in an aggressive purity spiral and they will probably break a lot more shit before people have had it and get rid of them.

I could easily see them decide "problematic" devs need to be blocked.
 
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Mint is good if you have a reasonable system but isn't particularly great if you're trying to extend the lifespan of an older system. For those you should use a more lightweight distro or, if you're more adventurous, strip down Mint somewhat yourself.

For whatever reason it's the one distro where I don't have trouble with pesky binary blobs from nvidia and CUDA stuff installs without having to hit the machine with a rubber mallet a few times.
Mint did have that thing awhile back where all of their hosted ISO's got replaced with malware infected versions. My sides were in pain when I found out about that because I couldn't stop laughing.

 
I'm thinking about switching to Mint since Windows 11 has all these stupid fucking hardware parameters. I know Mint has a Windows-esk GUI for sped folks like me, that's the only reason I picked it. Otherwise I honestly know nothing about the different Linux-s. What's the consensus on Mint here?
It's where I steer Windows-trained people checking out Linux for the first time. I haven't verified in awhile but Cinnamon and XFCE should both be familiar GUI-wise but I recommend virtual machines to try each one real quick before doing an actual install.

Manjaro XFCE is Windows-y too and worth a look if you want the AUR but it's not like there's anything that can't be easily installed on any modern Ubuntu-based distro aka Mint.
 
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I'm thinking about switching to Mint since Windows 11 has all these stupid fucking hardware parameters. I know Mint has a Windows-esk GUI for sped folks like me, that's the only reason I picked it. Otherwise I honestly know nothing about the different Linux-s. What's the consensus on Mint here?
Mint is cool and good. Get a mainstream distro, don't listen to anyone suggesting something you've never heard of. Those "it's Arch/Fedora/Ubuntu but with blackjack! and hookers!" distros are what you get for your second *nix install. The only slight exception to this is distros that are X, but with a different DE (Desktop Environment, the GUI). For example Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with the superior KDE DE. The more mainstream your distro, the easier it'll be to solve problems, find others' solutions, and get support. Like 90% of problems when you start out are 2 hours searching/experimenting for a two minute fix.
 
Mint is cool and good. Get a mainstream distro, don't listen to anyone suggesting something you've never heard of. Those "it's Arch/Fedora/Ubuntu but with blackjack! and hookers!" distros are what you get for your second *nix install. The only slight exception to this is distros that are X, but with a different DE (Desktop Environment, the GUI). For example Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with the superior KDE DE. The more mainstream your distro, the easier it'll be to solve problems, find others' solutions, and get support. Like 90% of problems when you start out are 2 hours searching/experimenting for a two minute fix.
This is good advice. Mint, Ubuntu, "Maybe PopOS", manjaro for an arch derivative.
 
I think there's a good dose of Stockholm syndrome too. I speak from personal experience that I only recently realized I had: at work I use both Windows and Linux, and there are, of course, issues on both. However, the other day I caught myself only ever bitching about the Linux issues. I was legitimately pissed off at an apt error that mildly inconvenienced me for only the 2 or so minutes it took to google the problem and apply the fix. Meanwhile, I'd spent the prior half-hour wrestling with some wireless issues on the Windows host (turns out Windows has a habit of 'getting confused' about VirtualBox's bridge network adapters and will sometimes forget how to Internet), and then fucking around trying to get Slack back open, because that gets screwy when the internet connectivity is screwy.

The point? I wasn't even pissed off at the Windows shit; until I caught myself, they didn't even register as problems so much as "Eh, this is what I do on Windows". I was more pissed off at the 2-minute Linux problem that I could solve easily and permanently because Linux lets me get in to the core of the system and tinker, than I was with the Windows problem where the solution was "Just delete the bridge adapters and hope for the best, and keep restarting Slack until it decides to work, and next time this shit happens (because there will be a next time because I don't even understand the problem, much less my 'solution') just do this process again if it 'works'."

I wonder how many other people are just discounting Windows issues in a similar way. Linux sucks because it wants me to play with the command line a little bit when shit doesn't automatically work out-of-the-box. But when I have to spend 20 minutes fucking around trying to install a graphics driver on Windows, "Eh, that's just the way it goes. Computers, amirite? Just keep rebooting until it loads up normal."
When I first read your and AmpleApricot's messages I thought this sentiment was more common with power users, but today I realized this is true even for the most basic things. An acquaintance asked me to install a program to download music from Youtube and also asked how to pirate games, her husband is hospitalized and needed to pass time. They have a 32bit Windows 7 laptop from 2012. I download youtube-dlg and Hotline Miami from gog-games to show her the process. I try to extract the HM .rar, but Winrar isn't installed. I try to download Winrar, but the version of Firefox is so old it isn't "accepting" the HTTPS certificate authority the official Winrar site has. I find a mirror site that's legitimate and download but it gives me an error on installation saying I have to download a specific version of .NET. I give up because Windows 7 is EOL and Microsoft probably doesn't host the essential software for it anymore and try youtube-dlg, at first it seems to work ok, but the download process stays at 0% no matter what I do. I tried again and again and once it said the download was successful, but it actually wasn't. I felt saddened that I couldn't help her because it was giving me errors that I couldn't fix immediately.

On Linux it would be just a matter of installing youtube-dl and wine, even on older distros.
 
When I first read your and AmpleApricot's messages I thought this sentiment was more common with power users, but today I realized this is true even for the most basic things. An acquaintance asked me to install a program to download music from Youtube and also asked how to pirate games, her husband is hospitalized and needed to pass time. They have a 32bit Windows 7 laptop from 2012. I download youtube-dlg and Hotline Miami from gog-games to show her the process. I try to extract the HM .rar, but Winrar isn't installed. I try to download Winrar, but the version of Firefox is so old it isn't "accepting" the HTTPS certificate authority the official Winrar site has. I find a mirror site that's legitimate and download but it gives me an error on installation saying I have to download a specific version of .NET. I give up because Windows 7 is EOL and Microsoft probably doesn't host the essential software for it anymore and try youtube-dlg, at first it seems to work ok, but the download process stays at 0% no matter what I do. I tried again and again and once it said the download was successful, but it actually wasn't. I felt saddened that I couldn't help her because it was giving me errors that I couldn't fix immediately.

On Linux it would be just a matter of installing youtube-dl and wine, even on older distros.
This is the type of person who would benefit much from 32-bit distro.
 
When I first read your and AmpleApricot's messages I thought this sentiment was more common with power users, but today I realized this is true even for the most basic things. An acquaintance asked me to install a program to download music from Youtube and also asked how to pirate games, her husband is hospitalized and needed to pass time. They have a 32bit Windows 7 laptop from 2012. I download youtube-dlg and Hotline Miami from gog-games to show her the process. I try to extract the HM .rar, but Winrar isn't installed. I try to download Winrar, but the version of Firefox is so old it isn't "accepting" the HTTPS certificate authority the official Winrar site has. I find a mirror site that's legitimate and download but it gives me an error on installation saying I have to download a specific version of .NET. I give up because Windows 7 is EOL and Microsoft probably doesn't host the essential software for it anymore and try youtube-dlg, at first it seems to work ok, but the download process stays at 0% no matter what I do. I tried again and again and once it said the download was successful, but it actually wasn't. I felt saddened that I couldn't help her because it was giving me errors that I couldn't fix immediately.

On Linux it would be just a matter of installing youtube-dl and wine, even on older distros.
Good. Gamerword cattle shouldn't get a free ride.
 
When I first read your and AmpleApricot's messages I thought this sentiment was more common with power users, but today I realized this is true even for the most basic things. An acquaintance asked me to install a program to download music from Youtube and also asked how to pirate games, her husband is hospitalized and needed to pass time. They have a 32bit Windows 7 laptop from 2012. I download youtube-dlg and Hotline Miami from gog-games to show her the process. I try to extract the HM .rar, but Winrar isn't installed. I try to download Winrar, but the version of Firefox is so old it isn't "accepting" the HTTPS certificate authority the official Winrar site has. I find a mirror site that's legitimate and download but it gives me an error on installation saying I have to download a specific version of .NET. I give up because Windows 7 is EOL and Microsoft probably doesn't host the essential software for it anymore and try youtube-dlg, at first it seems to work ok, but the download process stays at 0% no matter what I do. I tried again and again and once it said the download was successful, but it actually wasn't. I felt saddened that I couldn't help her because it was giving me errors that I couldn't fix immediately.

On Linux it would be just a matter of installing youtube-dl and wine, even on older distros.
Unfortunately, 32-bit binary Linux distros are also slowly going the way of the dodo. Ubuntu, Arch and Fedora dropped support completely. Mint phased it out after 19.03 LTS with its end of life in April 2023, then only LMDE edition will remain. Thankfully, Debian itself continues to support it.

I wouldn't give up on that situation just yet. Firefox still ships 32-bit, .rar archives can be opened without the cancer of WinRAR. Just use 7z. Lastly, Microsoft are fairly good at providing download links for relatively old updates should you want them - Windows 7 included.

Unrelated, but in my search for what distros still have 32-bit support, I stumbled on Ubuntu Christian Edition.

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Something for Null to distrohop to once he fully embraces Jesus.
 
Unfortunately, 32-bit binary Linux distros are also slowly going the way of the dodo. Ubuntu, Arch and Fedora dropped support completely. Mint phased it out after 19.03 LTS with its end of life in April 2023, then only LMDE edition will remain. Thankfully, Debian itself continues to support it.

I wouldn't give up on that situation just yet. Firefox still ships 32-bit, .rar archives can be opened without the cancer of WinRAR. Just use 7z. Lastly, Microsoft are fairly good at providing download links for relatively old updates should you want them - Windows 7 included.

Unrelated, but in my search for what distros still have 32-bit support, I stumbled on Ubuntu Christian Edition.

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Something for Null to distrohop to once he fully embraces Jesus.
You know I hate alcohol. I can't fucking stand the taste & I've been white girl wasted before. Yet this entire concept of a christian version of Ubuntu makes me greatly want to pick up a bottle of hard liquor.

I fucking knew it. I knew I was gonna see at least one latino involved in this if I looked hard enough. You can't tell me you're not latino with a last name like Gomez. Also what exactly does this do that people couldn't do themselves? Is bibletime not in ubuntu's ppa system? "Don't answer that, I don't actually want to know since I hate ubuntu ppa system."
 
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Learn to do stuff via the terminal.
And if you don't want to read the actual manual do a search on stackoverflow or wherever. Even accounting for the occasional need to search the web, the command line is really where it's at in Linux, and it's nice to be able to type in a single line and have it immediately do whatever you asked it to do, rather than open up some GUI and spend minutes clicking around in menus trying to make it to something vaguely similar to what you wanted.
 
I'm thinking about switching to Mint since Windows 11 has all these stupid fucking hardware parameters. I know Mint has a Windows-esk GUI for sped folks like me, that's the only reason I picked it. Otherwise I honestly know nothing about the different Linux-s. What's the consensus on Mint here?
I am gonna be the other guy, and suggest Fedora instead. Linux Mint is actually pretty good these days, but Fedora is more robust, and it also "just werks".
 
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