The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Betonhaus]

The last time I saw a Linux CD rom was like fifteen years ago when I used Knoppix as my first ever distro. Is the CD format as obsolete as the floppy disc at this point? Is there a case to be made for the CD rom?

Generally only on old hardware that really doesn't like things being booted from usb. My server will not boot a firmware update iso that was put on a usb using Rufus but will read it when burned to a dvd

 

[Flatline]

What in the fuck is this shit, now?
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I didn't want to do a reinstall but looks like I'll have to, I won't have my own system trying to sell me corpo trash.

Time to use a real distribution.

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

I believe the Ubuntu pro shit is free for 5 personal computers and that you only have to pay for commercial use. Well that was the case when this first was coming out a year or two ago, maybe things have changed since then.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

As a linux native, my filesystem of choice is of course gonna be butterfs. I'll download loads of crap!

My man, butterfs

 

[std::string]

I believe the Ubuntu pro shit is free for 5 personal computers and that you only have to pay for commercial use. Well that was the case when this first was coming out a year or two ago, maybe things have changed since then.

Still free.

You can also just totally ignore it and you'll get the same level of support you always got by running a LTS version of Ubuntu.

 

[AmpleApricots]

Is there a case to be made for the CD rom?

Count the number of new computer cases that still have slots for drives of any sort (as opposed to 1-2 USB ports at the front) and there's your answer.

Generally only on old hardware that really doesn't like things being booted from usb. My server will not boot a firmware update iso that was put on a usb using Rufus but will read it when burned to a dvd

Plop is a lifesaver in such cases. With a programmer you can burn it into an OptionROM/BIOS chip (or just put it into the MBR of a drive). I have an old Cyrix MediaGX machine (Pentium era for the young ones here, so ancient history) I have successfully booted FreeDOS and various newer OSes via USB stick on. It only has USB 1.1 and yes it's terribly slow but it works. Where there's a will, there's a way. Funny how these things go - When USB showed up it was useless for the longest time, (I often didn't even bother wiring out the USB headers on mainboards to actual connectors and I'm sure I'm not the only one) it only really became distinctively useful when flash drives showed up.

 

[SilentDuck]

The last time I saw a Linux CD rom was like fifteen years ago when I used Knoppix as my first ever distro. Is the CD format as obsolete as the floppy disc at this point? Is there a case to be made for the CD rom?

I suggested to a linux using gentleman 10 years my junior (still in 'oldfag' territory) that he just burn and use a DVD to install on his favored yet overheating laptop with usb ports that were cutting in and out due to the heat. You would think I suggested he defecate in his hand and just smear it all over the screen and howl like a Rhesus monkey. Physical media? Why not resort to cave painting for file journaling and just carving zeros and ones into rocks, he implied. Strange new world we live in.

My man, butterfs

We've gone from truly great file systems like ReiserFS, written by one single brilliant man who had the good sense to just kill his nagging wife into food themed ones that were of course plagued with corruption errors in the early days and promulgated by people whom I assume are edgy food fanatics of some sort. Then "oh" when it turned out not to be fit for any kind of wide spread adoption. I also currently use it tho' its default on my distro of choice and one way or the other the day is coming to move off of XFS.

 

[Bossmanralph]

Jersh needs to install arch. Archinstall is the way to go. Fish is great but kde unstable is well... Unstable. I still can't get the qml shit figured out in the settings menu and my setup is scuffed.

I use arch btw

 

[Betonhaus]

Jersh needs to install arch. Archinstall is the way to go. Fish is great but kde unstable is well... Unstable. I still can't get the qml shit figured out in the settings menu and my setup is scuffed.

I use arch btw

It's like playing "Spot The Vegan" here

 

[2ndBest]

Jersh needs to install arch. Archinstall is the way to go. Fish is great but kde unstable is well... Unstable. I still can't get the qml shit figured out in the settings menu and my setup is scuffed.

I use arch btw

What issues do you have with KDE? I used to have issues but recent updates and plasma 6 is really stable

 

[Vesperus]

Jersh needs to install arch. Archinstall is the way to go. Fish is great but kde unstable is well... Unstable. I still can't get the qml shit figured out in the settings menu and my setup is scuffed.

I use arch btw

Presumably you missed the drama the other day when dear feeder's arch-based streaming rig totally shat the bed hours before a mati, leading him to switch back to Windows.

What issues do you have with KDE? I used to have issues but recent updates and plasma 6 is really stable

I took it to mean he's running the bleeding edge (whatever version that is), which is obviously going to be a bit grim.

 

[Creative Username]

Archinstall is the way to go.

use the guide or you don't get archbtw privileges you absolute piece of shit

It's like playing "Spot The Vegan" here

by the way...

Presumably you missed the drama the other day when dear feeder's arch-based streaming rig totally shat the bed hours before a mati, leading him to switch back to Windows.

I've heard of that, and I wonder: Was it his fault or the computer's?

 

[Vesperus]

I've heard of that, and I wonder: Was it his fault or the computer's?

It's his fault for running a critical system on arch and expecting it to be stable.

Fuckin' noob.

It's like going to the airport and asking Sam Brinton to look after your wife's suitcase.

 

[Creative Username]

It's his fault for running a critical system on arch and expecting it to be stable.

Fuckin' noob.

It's like going to the airport and asking Sam Brinton to look after your wife's suitcase.

I'd say Arch is about as stable as any other distribution.*
* Until you pacman -Syu; but you shouldn't be doing that or any other distro/OS equivalent to that right before livestreaming!

 

[Vesperus]

I'd say Arch is about as stable as any other distribution.*
* Until you pacman -Syu; but you shouldn't be doing that or any other distro/OS equivalent to that right before livestreaming!

No, I think you can get away with a quick update on most distros. I tend to be cagey and won't update/reboot unless I have time to kill but honestly that's just me being paranoid: The only times I've had to fuck around is because of some AUR package I've dropped in.

But then, I'm not running pure arch. I run manjaro which is generally a month behind arch and has the bugs ironed out.

I'm not sure I'd recommend Manjaro for a critical system either - you'd be better with something like Redhat or Ubuntu - but AUR aside my system has been running & updated for about 4 years with no problems.

 

[seri0us]

I run manjaro which is generally a month behind arch

Is your system time also a month behind to match Manjaro's out of date SSL certs?

 

[Vesperus]

Is your system time also a month behind to match Manjaro's out of date SSL certs?

Honestly I'm quite happy with a distro where "that time some fucker forgot the ssl certs" is their biggest fuck up.

 

[Creative Username]

No, I think you can get away with a quick update on most distros. I tend to be cagey and won't update/reboot unless I have time to kill but honestly that's just me being paranoid: The only times I've had to fuck around is because of some AUR package I've dropped in.

Not Arch, it can have manual interventions and config changes.

But then, I'm not running pure arch. I run manjaro which is generally a month behind arch and has the bugs ironed out.

Arch already has the bugs ironed out. They have a testing period for packages and any retarded changes have manual intervention notices posted.

I'm not sure I'd recommend Manjaro for a critical system either - you'd be better with something like Redhat or Ubuntu - but AUR aside my system has been running & updated for about 4 years with no problems.

That's because it's based on a system that's more stable than people make it out to be.

Honestly I'm quite happy with a distro where "that time some fucker forgot the ssl certs" is their biggest fuck up.

Didn't that happen several times? I wouldn't want to use a technology base where the maintainers have made the exact same mistake several times. Still better IMO than that PopOS error where Steam removed GNOME, though.

 

[Vesperus]

Not Arch, it can have manual interventions and config changes.

That's my point.

Arch already has the bugs ironed out.

Tell that to null. Lol.

Arch is very much the pointy end of Linux. Which is good if you want new stuff, not so much if want new stuff with a robust install script.

This doesn't make it bad, it just makes it not suited for everyone.

Didn't that happen several times?

I'm aware of one patch where a bunch expired. I guess it depends on definitions but they had troubles for quite a few months.

...where Steam removed GNOME, though.

See, THAT'S a problem, imho.

*Shrug* pick your poison, I guess.

 

[dvorak]

Anyone have a feel for CentOS Stream? I'm thinking of possibly spinning up a Red Hat based machine to experiment with, but with all the merger/restructure stuff that's taken place in the past few years, I'm not sure whether it makes sense to even mess with it or if I should jump over to Fedora.

I normally run Debian fwiw; favor stability over bleeding edge.