The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Rei is Shit.]

Should've just installed debian

 

[Sperg Coalition]

that I will unapologetically call every Ubuntu developer and contributor a double nigger until the end of time.

You should have installed Linux for Niggers.

 

[Latex Catmaid]

And thus ends my nearly a year of giving Linux a chance. Many chances, actually. After I upgraded my computer sometime last year I decided to finally move over to Linux after several tries, and so I did. Decided on Ubuntu Studio for various reasons. Ran like shit, caused a lot of issues, but I stuck with it. Today I ran the upgrade to the newest LTS, and it completely broke the install, doesn't even go to try anymore.
And with this I abandon Linux once again because I'm too old for this shit, and because I want an operating system that works, and not one that I have to make work.
Back to Windows it is, and I also solemnly vow that I will unapologetically call every Ubuntu developer and contributor a double nigger until the end of time.
Thank you.

Not all distros are created equal, see my reply.

Can you explain to me what does "and it completely broke the install" mean? Did grub stop working and you can't login anymore?

 

[Meriasek]

You should have installed Linux for Niggers.

I thought I did.

Not all distros are created equal, see my reply.

Can you explain to me what does "and it completely broke the install" mean? Did grub stop working and you can't login anymore?

Grub works, but after the first reboot after installation of the update it would only go to tty since x was apparently gone, and since then it won't even go to tty anymore. No log in, nothing. Just a blank screen and no further booting going on. Recovery does nothing but give me a few options that all crash instantly.
All I can and will do now is use a bootstick to recover data from my various Linux partitions, and then nuke it all and never look back. I'm done with this, and using Debian or whatever else is not going to make it better.

 

[Sperg Coalition]

I thought I did.

Yeah but Linux for Niggers is even more niggery than Ubuntu.

 

[Squishie PP]

I thought I did.

Ubuntu Studio is nowhere near Linux for Niggers. It is just Ubuntu, but with more bugs and pre-installed bloatware.

Get OpenSUSE Tumbleweed or Leap if you want to try again. OpenSUSE is literally the closest you will ever get to Linux for Niggers; it extremely stable, has GUIs for everything that normally requires a terminal, and has a ton of official documentation of basically anything you would ever do with the OS.
Edit: It also has a lot better security than Ubuntu; it comes with more exploit mitigations enabled by default. It also ships with the firewall enabled, unlike Ubuntu and most Ubuntu-derived distros that don't even enable the firewall at all.

 

[Meriasek]

Ubuntu Studio is nowhere near Linux for Niggers. It is just Ubuntu, but with more bugs and pre-installed bloatware.

Get OpenSUSE Tumbleweed or Leap if you want to try again. OpenSUSE is literally the closest you will ever get to Linux for Niggers; it extremely stable, has GUIs for everything that normally requires a terminal, and has a ton of official documentation of basically anything you would ever do with the OS.

Yeah, Studio was a mistake in hindsight, but I was mostly looking for audio production stuff and thought it would save me some hassle with JACK.
It did, but also gave me a lot of other headaches. So bad.
I don't want to go back to Windows, but I am absolutely not in the mood to deal with this shit anymore. Maybe I'll give Linux yet another shot one day, but I doubt it.

 

[Squishie PP]

Yeah, Studio was a mistake in hindsight, but I was mostly looking for audio production stuff and thought it would save me some hassle with JACK.
It did, but also gave me a lot of other headaches. So bad.
I don't want to go back to Windows, but I am absolutely not in the mood to deal with this shit anymore. Maybe I'll give Linux yet another shot one day, but I doubt it.

Yeah, give yourself a break for a bit. It is best to approach this stuff with a clear head.
Also if you can figure out how to set up ASIO drivers on Windows, JACK/etc. won't be that much more difficult to deal with.

 

[Meriasek]

Yeah, give yourself a break for a bit. It is best to approach this stuff with a clear head.
Also if you can figure out how to set up ASIO drivers on Windows, JACK/etc. won't be that much more difficult to deal with.

Yeah, I know, I had to mess with JACK a few times for various reasons.
Well.

 

[Betonhaus]

Yeah, Studio was a mistake in hindsight, but I was mostly looking for audio production stuff and thought it would save me some hassle with JACK.
It did, but also gave me a lot of other headaches. So bad.
I don't want to go back to Windows, but I am absolutely not in the mood to deal with this shit anymore. Maybe I'll give Linux yet another shot one day, but I doubt it.

If you ever so try Linux again consider trying Linux Mint. As one of the most used distros it has a large community of supporters who work on reducing the big and errors users encounter, and itse design ethos is to make a distro that's easy to use for people both new to Linux and people familiar but dont want to baby their main system.
Plus Cinnamon is pretty stable. Ubuntu's gnome needs to have unofficial mods unsupported by the core devs in order to do anything fancy.

 

[Squishie PP]

If you ever so try Linux again consider trying Linux Mint. As one of the most used distros it has a large community of supporters who work on reducing the big and errors users encounter, and itse design ethos is to make a distro that's easy to use for people both new to Linux and people familiar but dont want to baby their main system.
Plus Cinnamon is pretty stable. Ubuntu's gnome needs to have unofficial mods unsupported by the core devs in order to do anything fancy.

I can vouch for Mint too. It is what I started out on, and still use on a few of my systems. My only complaint is that the process for upgrading to new fixed releases is a bit counterintuitive for novice users unless you just install the OS from scratch again every 4 years or so.

 

[The Anarki Main]

Today I ran the upgrade to the newest LTS, and it completely broke the install, doesn't even go to try anymore.

I had the exact same problem a few years back. Sound broke twice and a bunch of other shit didn't work right after doing a full system upgrade. Whether it was APT or the Ubuntu maintainers being incompetent as usual, it was never stable. I genuinely think Gentoo of all things would have been a less troublesome package management experience... I switched to Arch and never had anything like that happen again ever (things break on Arch too, but on a smaller and predictable scale that human beings can manage)

The nice thing is that Arch has a gigantic wiki full of almost every single problem you will ever encounter and it's almost a guarantee you will be able to find a permanent solution within less than an hour and never have to fuck with something again, and you'll learn shit too. A lot of the knowledge learned there will apply to other distributions as well. But you have to have a lot of patience for that sort of thing, which you said isn't for you.

A lot of people say that Linux is easy these days, and they're right in a way, but in the process we often forget about situations like this that absolutely devastate our adoption rate and leave a horrible impression on new users.

Should've just installed debian

Really? How's your lack of any applications or drivers coming along?

The only sane Debian users are people who exclusively use them for web servers. You have to go through 200 hoops to just install OpenRCT2. Doesn't matter how much you beg APT to pull from the additional repos. Don't ever recommend that garbage to newcomers.

 

[Ho-oh]

If you ever so try Linux again consider trying Linux Mint. As one of the most used distros it has a large community of supporters who work on reducing the big and errors users encounter, and itse design ethos is to make a distro that's easy to use for people both new to Linux and people familiar but dont want to baby their main system.
Plus Cinnamon is pretty stable. Ubuntu's gnome needs to have unofficial mods unsupported by the core devs in order to do anything fancy.

Yeah, Mint is pretty neat if you just want to go through everyday life without tweaking it any further then what the defaults set for you. Wouldn't recommend it for gaming or serious a/v production though.

 

[Meriasek]

Really, shouldn't have gone Ubuntu Studio in the first place, I was just used to Ubuntu since it was the one I tried several times before.
I've heard good things about both Mint and Debian. Friend uses it and likes it very much, but then again, the thing about Linux users is that they can't be trusted when it comes to user experience. At least not if you're looking for a true plug and play experience. In the end you'll always get the Linux experience. Which I wouldn't even mind all that much, I did stick with it for nearly a year despite it annoying me (like, log in screen sorta froze every few starts, requiring restarting X), and I wouldn't go back to Windows.
But well, when a software company halts an update for a few weeks because it caused so many extreme problems for the users, it's a bit of a red flag. Said software still giving you the notification that an update being available despite then not working is odd, but understandable.
But when the update is then released again and said update basically bricks my installation, that's too much. I mean, it's literally beyond repair. I have zero command line access anywhere, so reinstallation is all that's possible anyway.

So, uh, how is audio production on Debian? I honestly don't need much, I mostly just run Reaper and use a USB interface and very few non-native VSTs. Which should all work reasonably well.

 

[Squishie PP]

So, uh, how is audio production on Debian? I honestly don't need much, I mostly just run Reaper and use a USB interface and very few non-native VSTs. Which should all work reasonably well.

Same as it is on all other Linux distros. The process for installing the software and optimizing all the default shit will is what will be slightly different between distros. Some may be easier to configure than others.

If you have trouble deciding you should just try running different Linux distributions in a virtual machine, then choose the one that puts you through the least amount of bullshit. Start with OpenSUSE Tumbleweed or Mint if you want to speedrun the process. Then try Debian if you somehow don't like either of those.

 

[Xentor]

From trying all kinds of distros: Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE, PopOS etc. I can vouch that Arch is the best, personally I use EndeavourOS for the installer and all the preconfig. It's very easy to use and has access too all the best Arch has to offer, which is imho the best infrastructure on Linux. I even got an old laptop with a discrete nvidia GPU to use hybrid mode on wayland perfectly - just by using nvidia-inst.
Personally I have had problems with non-LTS kernel on many distros, so I'd like to emphasis on using that, but my hardware isn't new.
Debian is a fucking nightmare for a PC - don't do that shit, everything will always be way out of date. I always use it on my VPS-s though.

 

[Colorjak]

elementary or deepin for a regular pc.
ALWAYS USE LTE UBUNTU FOR YOUR NETBOOK. EVERY OTHER DISTRO WILL JUST SHART ON THE STORAGE.

 

[Colorjak]

Not all distros are created equal, see my reply.

Can you explain to me what does "and it completely broke the install" mean? Did grub stop working and you can't login anymore?

look who's talking

 

[emergenigger]

Is anyone currently using it?
How deep can you go with USE flags and still get a binary, generally? Assuming a typical x86-v3 processor?
Is there a way to browse those options?

1. Yes.
2. I'm pretty sure the binary packages have to be enabled by a USEFLAG, if I'm not mistaken.
Both are binary but you don't have to compile if you're using their binaries.
3. Yes, you can browse global USEflags. You can also view individual (local) USEflags on per package basis, like this.

 

[Meriasek]

elementary or deepin for a regular pc.
ALWAYS USE LTE UBUNTU FOR YOUR NETBOOK. EVERY OTHER DISTRO WILL JUST SHART ON THE STORAGE.

Speaking of Elementary OS, how come they all try to get that MacOS look and feel, but the one good thing I'd actually want from that, the global menu bar, is never implemented?
Like, Unity did it, and I guess the OSX skin for TwisterOS manages to implement it reasonably well. Why is it so hard to implement?