The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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DavidS877 said:
The problem is professionals who can do actual support are pretty rare. I mean RedHat can't hire any so how you can you expect a business whose primary focus isn't IT to be able to hire any. I think so far in my career the number of times RH support had fixed an issue before I figured it out is maybe once, out of hundreds of attempts. It's even worse when you have the fix and you try and explain to them "Please send this to someone in your organization who understands computers so it can get put into the Linux kernel." or whatever package they broke this time.

This has been brought to you by the letters R and H and the word sucks.
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Usually the issues I've contacted them with have been their own developed stuff because it's doing things that it shouldn't. Like LEAPP failing with a traceback and giving no useful output. And it's not just RH. SuSE has the same problem. Years ago I had to go to their support because my employer at the time was moving to SuSE from RH (as it was cheaper). And one box needed a physical device attached for backups, but udev wasn't behaving in the way it should. After I finally got through their useless first-line support I was told by their second-line (who was actually very competent) that they do things differently. Yes, give me non-POSIX compliant udev plz and thnk u. Fuck outta here with that bullshit.

WhiteNight said:
As I understand, it is not Flatpaks but Snaps that Canonical via Ubuntu is trying to force on everyone. Snaps are much worse since they're centralized.

As an example of pushback, Mint is based on Ubuntu, but they have opted to remove and block Snap (though this can be overridden). This is explained in their blog post https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3906
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You're right, what I get for posting when I'm tired. Flatpaks are still retarded, though less retarded than Snaps. And Ubuntu's insistence of fuck you, we're right, you're going to use snaps, when trying to install Firefox pushed me over the edge. I looked up how to get around that and said no, I don't think so, buh-bye.

Hulkster said:
<A bunch of retarded drivel>
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Have you considered a Mac?

Slav Power said:
This fuckface has really soured Debian as an OS, even if it's rock solid reliable.
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Honestly, his touch in Debian is fairly minor. As long as you stay away from KDE (and you should), you avoid him. And as long as it stays that way, everything will be good.
 
Betonhaus said:
What's the best htpc DE for Linux? Something I can install on Linux Mint and have a dedicated user that logs into it at startup and it handles Emby and YouTube? Maybe emulators but the intended computer is a potato
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I've got a cheapo $100 amazon chinaman mini pc with an N5000 and 6G/128G running Devuan. It doesn't look special, but video playback is fine and it will even run some GC games with Dolphin.
If Emby does transcoding, then you'll need something with a more powerful CPU though.
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Yes, but you can just use Devuan, which has all the Debian advantages without the main disadvantage and the dangerous freaks.
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I can't really recommend Devuan for general users until the installer is improved and there's a winner in the alt-init system war.

The GUI installer on the live CD version is not suitable for general users and it has some bugs with non-windows created EFI partitions. The TUI installer on the desktop ISO works well though.

The systemd alternatives in Devuan are either old (sysv), slow (sysv, openrc), broken on my system (openrc), or lacking in googlable answers for common problems (runit). (I went with runit since it seems fastest). Resolving common Linux problems such as switching the audio stack or network manager often become show stoppers with these alt-init systems.
 
WhiteNight said:
As I understand, it is not Flatpaks but Snaps that Canonical via Ubuntu is trying to force on everyone. Snaps are much worse since they're centralized.
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AFAIR, Snaps aren't centralized any more than Flatpaks are. Sure, Canonical is running the pretty much only repository for them, but that's because nobody cares about them, not because nobody can. And running your own repo is centalization, sure, but is kind of the whole point of a distribution?

Angie Wormwood said:
Honestly, his touch in Debian is fairly minor.
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Heh.
Angie Wormwood said:
As long as you stay away from KDE (and you should), you avoid him
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He's a GNOME packager, which is the actual DE you want to avoid. KDE is fine from user perspective. Unless you're talking about politics, which, uh, good luck finding somehing at all then.
 
From my experience with Devuan there's really no point in using anything other than the default Sysvinit as OpenRC is just there for compatibility with OpenRC scripts and cannot be used as PID1 for now. I found Runits implementation in Devuan really subpar and all the stuff that matters is handled the same way as the stock Sysvinit anyways. Unless you have some OpenRC or Runit specific scripts you currently use, don't bother with the Frankenstein way they are used in Devuan.
 
It's finally happened, ok, maybe the 2nd time. One of my fleet of Pis has finally blown a Micro SD card. 5 years running in this system and maybe a 10 year old card total. Sandisk. It only went read-only so it was easy to copy it off. And it gets backed up too. It's an interesting failure all it does is print labels for packages every 3-12 months compared that some that get actual use. It's still a Pi 2b anyway.
 
Thank you @SCV & co for suggesting Artix. I got gifted an empty IdeaPad 320 so I had the chance to drive it around for a couple of weeks, including using it for a small local CTF, and I gotta say, I loved it. OpenRC has surprisingly great compatibility with black arch pentest tools as well, pretty much everything worked right out of the box. Didn't quite get to try XLibre but zen kernel made the old SATA SSD it had plenty snappy. Definitely would recommend.
 
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Max Weber said:
Heh.
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That was actually completely unintended.
Max Weber said:
He's a GNOME packager, which is the actual DE you want to avoid. KDE is fine from user perspective. Unless you're talking about politics, which, uh, good luck finding somehing at all then.
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I shouldn't angrypost either. Spent the day yelling at a vendor who kept having me look at shit unrelated to the problem I was having with their jank-ass software. But yeah, stay away from both GNOME and KDE, honestly. They're both bloated crap now. XFCE as mentioned is delightful, though I've grown fond of Cinnamon in Debian now. Does what I want, is light enough, and has useful widgets out of the box.
 
Betonhaus said:
What's the best htpc DE for Linux? Something I can install on Linux Mint and have a dedicated user that logs into it at startup and it handles Emby and YouTube? Maybe emulators but the intended computer is a potato
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I use KDE Neon. I don't use Emby or Kodi, just a file browser. You need to compile some packages to get HDR support in mpv right now, but there are guides out there if you search.

If you already have an Emby server setup, LibreELEC and a Raspberry Pi 3 or greater will give you a 4K/HDR Kodi player and you can add the Emby plugins. I had this going for a while, but I just prefer a file browser over that fancy Netflix/Streaming interface.
 
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