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This is actually a pretty informative video. I think people should see it. Or at the very least people should get an even more digestible form of the information in this video collected into one place.


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Im just going to watch titus's video on this. It just cuts out the sections he wants to cover on it. I think its probably the less frustrating way to see it. Especially knowing the popos choice going in. Choosing an os using a desktop that's literally alpha software, is such a brain dead choice.

And converting every pc you have all at once to that is seriously so dumb, what kind of "normal" user would install an operating system they have never tried on all their devices at once basically site unseen (since this is supposed to somehow simulate the experience of a normie).

Also a dumb thing about this on its face, is the refusal to actually ask anyone for advice. Sure, normal people don't have actual experts they personally know most of the time. What they do have is access to discord, reddit, forums, other chat platforms, etc. I have seen people hop on all of these things to ask for advice, normally they even have a set guide or recommendations.
 
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Judge Dredd said:
I already mentioned the excuse from comments and react videos is that he got PopOS at a bad time, and if he just waits a while (ranging from years to months) all of these issues would be gone, as if that's an acceptable answer.
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ya like fuck me its not been a good time to install popOS for years at this point and i fully expect to have to wait years for it to be a good option again
theyre in fucking limbo and are just burning community goodwill by the hour
 
acid_ra1n said:
ya like fuck me its not been a good time to install popOS for years at this point and i fully expect to have to wait years for it to be a good option again
theyre in fucking limbo and are just burning community goodwill by the hour
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Was Pop_OS! the ones who let a key certificate expire which basically fucked systems from being updated?

Also it seems like Xlibre has reached a point where they will remove the remaining Xfree86 code needed for 2d rendering without a GPU, and chose to spin it off as it's own project.
Super Sonic X: The X Server for Super Sonic Freedom
Super Sonic X is a high-performance, hardened fork of the final XFree86 lineage. This project exists to reclaim the desktop from GPU-centric corporate churn and return it to the users of embedded systems, retro hardware, and lean workstations.

We are restoring the classic 2D rendering pipeline and preserving XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture) as a primary engine—not a "legacy" feature marked for deletion.
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prollyanotherlurker said:

This is actually a pretty informative video. I think people should see it. Or at the very least people should get an even more digestible form of the information in this video collected into one place.


Edit to avoid double post.


Im just going to watch titus's video on this. It just cuts out the sections he wants to cover on it. I think its probably the less frustrating way to see it. Especially knowing the popos choice going in. Choosing an os using a desktop that's literally alpha software, is such a brain dead choice.

And converting every pc you have all at once to that is seriously so dumb, what kind of "normal" user would install an operating system they have never tried on all their devices at once basically site unseen (since this is supposed to somehow simulate the experience of a normie).

Also a dumb thing about this on its face, is the refusal to actually ask anyone for advice. Sure, normal people don't have actual experts they personally know most of the time. What they do have is access to discord, reddit, forums, other chat platforms, etc. I have seen people hop on all of these things to ask for advice, normally they even have a set guide or recommendations.
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Fedora and Nobara or the latest Ubuntu release (but not Mint) are for whatever fucking reason the only distros that will install for me and apparently its related to my motherboard BIOS being too new. Shit like that happens and even though Ubuntu installs, it fights me on multiple PCs about mounting drives. Fedora 43 will not fight me on anything and just works without any issues, and thankfully the AI for Brave made me switching over to Fedora from Windows piss easy because all I have to do is search a command for the console and it works 90% of the time. I am super tech literate and have no fear of the command line, but all my issues have been hardware related and I have actually been reading KF threads for advice to avoid troonshit lmfao and it is what made me realize my issues with Mint but not Fedora are hardware related. I have a relatively recent all AMD 2023 PC and Youtubers always shill mint without explaining that it may not necessarily be compatible with newer hardware.
 
skibidi biden said:
Fedora and Nobara or the latest Ubuntu release (but not Mint) are for whatever fucking reason the only distros that will install for me and apparently its related to my motherboard BIOS being too new. Shit like that happens and even though Ubuntu installs, it fights me on multiple PCs about mounting drives. Fedora 43 will not fight me on anything and just works without any issues, and thankfully the AI for Brave made me switching over to Fedora from Windows piss easy because all I have to do is search a command for the console and it works 90% of the time. I am super tech literate and have no fear of the command line, but all my issues have been hardware related and I have actually been reading KF threads for advice to avoid troonshit lmfao and it is what made me realize my issues with Mint but not Fedora are hardware related. I have a relatively recent all AMD 2023 PC and Youtubers always shill mint without explaining that it may not necessarily be compatible with newer hardware.
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If it's a 2023 PC then chances are that the drivers somehow never fully made the cutoff for adding to Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, which Mint is based on. It's possible that those drivers made it into Debian 13, in which case LMDE7 Linux Mint Debian Edition miiiiight work but it'll probably have the same issues that Ubuntu 25.11 (which I'm assuming you were using) is having.
 
Betonhaus said:
If it's a 2023 PC then chances are that the drivers somehow never fully made the cutoff for adding to Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, which Mint is based on. It's possible that those drivers made it into Debian 13, in which case LMDE7 Linux Mint Debian Edition miiiiight work but it'll probably have the same issues that Ubuntu 25.11 (which I'm assuming you were using) is having.
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I tried LDME7 and it worked albeit with the mounting issues, I like Fedora the most above all other major distros anyways and there are the fedora spins for major desktop environments if I want to try something different.
 
Just out of curiosity what exactly are the issues you have with mounting drives on Ubuntu and Mint? Just want to rule out that you aren't missing an intended method or something.
 
Betonhaus said:
Just out of curiosity what exactly are the issues you have with mounting drives on Ubuntu and Mint? Just want to rule out that you aren't missing an intended method or something.
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It gets frozen on the boot screen before an install for Mint or Zorin on my Ventoy drive. Ubuntu 25.11 installs fine but refuses to mount all but one of my drives. I do the same everything I do with Fedora and it just refuses to work. Mint will work with no issues on my 2019 laptop though just fine from the same Ventoy drive and that tells me its a motherboard issue. Before I updated my BIOS Mint would boot as well so if I absolutely need to, I can downgrade my BIOS.
 
skibidi biden said:
Fedora and Nobara or the latest Ubuntu release (but not Mint) are for whatever fucking reason the only distros that will install for me and apparently its related to my motherboard BIOS being too new. Shit like that happens and even though Ubuntu installs, it fights me on multiple PCs about mounting drives. Fedora 43 will not fight me on anything and just works without any issues, and thankfully the AI for Brave made me switching over to Fedora from Windows piss easy because all I have to do is search a command for the console and it works 90% of the time. I am super tech literate and have no fear of the command line, but all my issues have been hardware related and I have actually been reading KF threads for advice to avoid troonshit lmfao and it is what made me realize my issues with Mint but not Fedora are hardware related. I have a relatively recent all AMD 2023 PC and Youtubers always shill mint without explaining that it may not necessarily be compatible with newer hardware.
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something arch based like cachyos (if you want just works) could be a good choice then. They're about as up to date as you will get with a linux distro. If you want something chudly then artix is also arch based, and it is one of the few actually chud aligned distros I know of (kinda at least).

Also just wondering if messing with any bios setting has had any effect. I'm sure you've disabled secure boot an all of that? Otherwise it does sound like you do just need more up to date software like you suggested.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
something arch based like cachyos (if you want just works) could be a good choice then. They're about as up to date as you will get with a linux distro. If you want something chudly then artix is also arch based, and it is one of the few actually chud aligned distros I know of (kinda at least).

Also just wondering if messing with any bios setting has had any effect. I'm sure you've disabled secure boot an all of that? Otherwise it does sound like you do just need more up to date software like you suggested.
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Secure boot is disabled and so is fast boot, its just up to date software and CachyOS works.
 
skibidi biden said:
Fedora 43 will not fight me on anything and just works without any issues,
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Betonhaus said:
If it's a 2023 PC then chances are that the drivers somehow never fully made the cutoff for adding to Ubuntu 24.04 LTS,
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This is what led me to adopt Fedora several years ago. I had a new (at the time) Ryzen laptop that wouldn't boot anything except Fedora due to some shitty Dell firmware bug. I recently gave Xubuntu LTS 24.something a brief run before switching back to Fedora, ironically after encountering a regression in the LTS Mesa driver for a 2012 GPU. Sure, I could have just installed a newer Mesa driver from the backports channel, but Fedora never forced me to do that--it just werks.

That experience brings me to this: Fedora is known for being a cutting edge distro, but its backwards compatibility is underrated--it is truly excellent. Fedora happily runs on decades old junk and modern hardware all the same, while ironically, the "conservative" RHEL distros routinely drop support for older hardware, with their forced x86-64-v3 requirement being a recent example.

Aside from their video codec shenanigans (tl;dr install the RPMFusion repo and swap the nerfed packages), I would argue Fedora is one of the best beginner distros just for its excellent compatibility. The short 8-12 month lifecycle kind of sucks but they have an in-place upgrade procedure for that and it worked fine when I used it for 42->43.
 
Betonhaus said:
Was Pop_OS! the ones who let a key certificate expire which basically fucked systems from being updated?

Also it seems like Xlibre has reached a point where they will remove the remaining Xfree86 code needed for 2d rendering without a GPU, and chose to spin it off as it's own project.
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HOLY FUCK can these people make better fucking names for their projects PLEEEEEAAASE?!
 
I AM UNDOUBTEDLY FIZZED8% said:
HOLY FUCK can these people make better fucking names for their projects PLEEEEEAAASE?!
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Signs point to no. A related project, Sonic DE, was originally called KDE Lite and the developer rejected concerns that he would get into trouble for the name as it wasn't affiliated with the KDE foundation.
 
When are we getting SonichuDE?

Seriously, Could have just played off of plasma or something, but instead we sonic cause FAST or something.
 
What is the current opinion on EndeavourOS? Thinking of moving to it but I'm not sure if there is anything better or it has problems that I haven't found out about.
 
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