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oh man they're really trying to intentionally fuck humanity over if they're going after Veracrypt. that is extremely tragic for MicroSlop tbh
guess I just have to do some quantum computing
The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice
- Thread starter tehpope
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guess I just have to do some quantum computing
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Mostly because they aren't human. Microslop is owned, administered and primarily staffed by pajeets. I'll eat crow if they don't move their central offices to Mumbai by the turn of the decade.
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I posted a while back that I was gonna set up a console based OS as a sort of project and to just learn some new things. I estimated I'd be putting an afternoon aside and be up and running with the help of some books and online resources. Thought it would be fun. Fast forward three weeks, holy shit. The process itself is straightforward, but when one thing doesn't want to cooperate, a thousand things that did go right count for nothing. The main things I came up against were firmware and networking issues.
I experimented with arch, alpine, ubuntu server and void. I finally settled on void. I went into this knowing nothing, so at one point i basically broke grub and turned my laptop into a paperweight, luckily I was able to reboot into a live environment and get back into my main OS, back everything up and basically start over. When I started this, I had no idea what EFI was or the difference between sda and sdb, so looking back I think I'd overfilled the EFI folder, and it had become a sort of graveyard of broken installations, making it impossible for grub to reach the kernel I needed.
The next issue I came up against wasn't really my fault, for some reason my firmware would identify a bootable disk, and then stop acknowledging its existence on reboot. Oh, and it decided to stop launching my keyboard, so I had no way of navigating BIOS settings. USB keyboard got around this. I need to use a USB keyboard if i want to boot a different partition or use BIOS settings. I have no idea why this happened and I'm not sure I can be bothered to fix it.
The final solution; two USB pens, one as a live boot and one as a target for installation. I used the void installer to install to the second USB pen, I then manually created a boot entry for it in grub rather than relying on my firmware to pick it up. And after three weeks of experimenting and destroying my laptop, I finally have a working console based OS. I now plan to sort of trace back everything I did and understand it.
I think the biggest thing I've learnt, beyond the installation process is how useful scripts are. I'm committing so much to memory, but for day to day stuff, knowing how to make scripts executable has made the OS actually start to feel usuable. I have ranger as a file manager and wordgrinder for writing.
How did you all learn this shit to the point it doesn't just break you. The idea anybody could have done this without assistance just seems arcane and mystical to me.
I experimented with arch, alpine, ubuntu server and void. I finally settled on void. I went into this knowing nothing, so at one point i basically broke grub and turned my laptop into a paperweight, luckily I was able to reboot into a live environment and get back into my main OS, back everything up and basically start over. When I started this, I had no idea what EFI was or the difference between sda and sdb, so looking back I think I'd overfilled the EFI folder, and it had become a sort of graveyard of broken installations, making it impossible for grub to reach the kernel I needed.
The next issue I came up against wasn't really my fault, for some reason my firmware would identify a bootable disk, and then stop acknowledging its existence on reboot. Oh, and it decided to stop launching my keyboard, so I had no way of navigating BIOS settings. USB keyboard got around this. I need to use a USB keyboard if i want to boot a different partition or use BIOS settings. I have no idea why this happened and I'm not sure I can be bothered to fix it.
The final solution; two USB pens, one as a live boot and one as a target for installation. I used the void installer to install to the second USB pen, I then manually created a boot entry for it in grub rather than relying on my firmware to pick it up. And after three weeks of experimenting and destroying my laptop, I finally have a working console based OS. I now plan to sort of trace back everything I did and understand it.
I think the biggest thing I've learnt, beyond the installation process is how useful scripts are. I'm committing so much to memory, but for day to day stuff, knowing how to make scripts executable has made the OS actually start to feel usuable. I have ranger as a file manager and wordgrinder for writing.
How did you all learn this shit to the point it doesn't just break you. The idea anybody could have done this without assistance just seems arcane and mystical to me.
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My answer to this is something you're already on track for:
Instead of writing "scripts", the high-tier tech is to add functions to your .bashrc, which are like auto-loaded scripts.
Code:
monitor-config(){
xrandr --output HDMI-A-0 --auto
xrandr --output DisplayPort-0 --auto
xrandr --output HDMI-A-0 --left-of DisplayPort-0
xrandr --output DisplayPort-0 --pos 3840x1080
#xrandr --output HDMI-A-0 --auto --output DisplayPort-0 --right-of HDMI-A-0 --pos 3840x1080
}
setup-dwm(){
#xrandr --output DisplayPort-0 --auto --right-of HDMI-A-0
monitor-config
xsetroot
easyeffects &
slstatus &
st -e pulsemixer &
}I run DWM but I'm lazy and haven't automated setup, I just open a shell and run
$ setup-dwm. It sets up my monitors, blanks the wallpaper, launches easyeffects, slstatus, and pulsemixer.Anyways, my .bashrc is so big that its got its own architecture now, and isn't just a .bashrc, but I've got all kinds of stuff in there to make things easier for me.
"How did you all learn this shit to the point it doesn't just break you. The idea anybody could have done this without assistance just seems arcane and mystical to me."
The thing is that there's all kinds of documentation. The problem is not in the availability of documentation (see man, info, etc.) but rather learning what you're trying to do and how you want things resolved. This just takes time. It's like learning anything. I had a bit of a leg up in that I've been working on the command line since Apple II and MS-DOS days, so it doesn't intimidate me. The MS-DOS prompt is much, much closer to your average Bourne shell clone than folks give it credit for.
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Any bests which distro they will go with? Linux Mint is French so I could see them using it but it doesn't have as strong of enterprise features as Ubuntu so it's probably a non-starter for them.
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They'll probably pay some french company 100 gazillion euros to make a fork that doesn't work.
Lone Wandering Courier
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On Artix, more and more KDE Plasma components are being replaced with SonicDE forks but it still seems those packages are still dependent on wayland-related stuff.
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Give them time, they are still sorting out automation for merging any desirable changes from upstream, and KDE ecosystem is a huge mess of entangled dependencies. There's even silly stuff like commits that only bump version to keep stuff in sync.
Right after new Plasma gets tagged point releases are coming out in rapid succession, and that complicates things. Some Wayland stuff needs rewrites as well.
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They're going to have to eventually replace the whole goddamn plasma stack with gutted equivalents.
Might end up going the same way as Trinity, I don't mean this in a discouraging way either.
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so someone requested i try to install ubuntu 26 on a computer with less than 6gb ram to prove it can be done
so my friend gave me his old win 7 era pentium 3gb ram piece of shit that even i couldnt salvage
ubuntu 26 usb booted but installer would crash immediately, looked like wayland issues
so if u were wondering if lunduke was right i personally cant get ubuntu 26 to install on hardware of this oldness so im not sure if the ram requirement is accurate but you will probably need newer hardware than whatever tf im running
so my friend gave me his old win 7 era pentium 3gb ram piece of shit that even i couldnt salvage
ubuntu 26 usb booted but installer would crash immediately, looked like wayland issues
so if u were wondering if lunduke was right i personally cant get ubuntu 26 to install on hardware of this oldness so im not sure if the ram requirement is accurate but you will probably need newer hardware than whatever tf im running
no i thought the same thing as well but in a discouraging way. whats gonna happen when qt7 and kde 7 come out, r we just gonna have a permanent kde 6 fork?
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Xubuntu would work.
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ya ik but the challenge was ubuntu gnome supposedly has a 6gb requirement and this laptop has 3gb ram
since im probably gonna resell this piece of shit i just threw mint xfce on it that should work fine
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As someone who riced XFCE to look like Haiku/BeOS I think this is neat. As of right now you’re better off just using Haiku since it’s much further along in development, but if this has better hardware compatibility than Haiku then that’s pretty cool for the people who can’t be Haiku enjoyers. Reminds me of when one of the BSDs went “fuck it, we’ll just use the Linux GPU drivers”. Except with a whole kernel. Since it has a custom graphics stack the best solution for a Haiku-esque vidya gaming PC experience is still just to rice XFCE on a normal distro though, and I have a feeling it will stay that way for the foreseeable future.
Nonostante
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The french gendarmerie has been running their own fork of Ubuntu for 10+ years (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/GendBuntu). So it's safe to assume they might go this route again for the rest of government.
However it seems like they might be considering NixOS as well:
- An official article presenting NixOs back in 2022 by Ryan Lahfa https://code.gouv.fr/fr/bluehats/nixos/
- Their own fork of NixOs (same guy): https://github.com/cloud-gouv/securix
Surprising but logical choice!
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Made me remember that Arcan exists, is there any linux distro that ships with Arcan for its gui?
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Fork or be forgotten, so, the logical conclusion is another Trinity Desktop.
Whether or not they shit the bed with SonicDE later down the pipeline remains to be seen, same for Trinity.
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Guix would make infinitely more sense because it is French. The Guix Foundation is licensed in France, and the de-facto BDFL/founder of the project Ludovic Courtes, is also French. Plus it isn't reliant on SystemDalit, unlike Nix.
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It might need to also be a combination of something their IT team can support, access to the applications deemed necessary for work (if not just using a web app for everything), and driver support for their existing hardware so that the don't need to spend a fortune replacing hardware with nearly identical hardware.
GNU Abyss
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10+ years is the key. It might make more sense, but anything government moves at a glacial pace and requires insane amounts of funding. Distrohopping by yourself is fine, distrohopping an entire police force is a nightmare in the making.
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Turbo autism research project is far from ready for prime time