The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Bongocat]

Can't say I have, and we use them all the time at work for all sorts of shit.

What sort of issues are you having with them?

my latest is attempting to install ampache and it not being able to create the mysql server or database. I have seen no reference to anyone else having issues with that. You're supposed to just boot up the container and it should create it for you, dumping the password in the logs. Mine just spews out that it cant create the server over and over again.

The issues I have are vast and random, and just trying to focus on this one for now.

Though mostly I'm just asking the question if docker is actually good or if reliability issues like this are well known. I feel like it's hard to get a feel for that in the FOSS landscape.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

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[Knight of the Rope]

my latest is attempting to install ampache and it not being able to create the mysql server or database. I have seen no reference to anyone else having issues with that. You're supposed to just boot up the container and it should create it for you, dumping the password in the logs. Mine just spews out that it cant create the server over and over again.

The issues I have are vast and random, and just trying to focus on this one for now.

Huh, yeah it seems like there's a lot of issues with ampache in particular.

I suppose admittedly most of the Docker images I've seen have been ones that we've rolled ourselves for clients, so we're mostly pulling from the 'battle-tested' base images like ubuntu and node and we've never had any problems with those, it's always been config fuckups on our end.

Though mostly I'm just asking the question if docker is actually good or if reliability issues like this are well known. I feel like it's hard to get a feel for that in the FOSS landscape.

I'm more private industry rather than FOSS, but if it counts for anything we're pretty pleased with Docker containers for a lot of the stuff we deploy, and a lot of other businesses we know use them pretty heavily in their workflows too. As for FOSS, I'm not sure. I imagine the standard "you get what you pay for" element of voluntter open-source projects probably accounts for a majority of the problems though.

 

[Bongocat]

Huh, yeah it seems like there's a lot of issues with ampache in particular.

I suppose admittedly most of the Docker images I've seen have been ones that we've rolled ourselves for clients, so we're mostly pulling from the 'battle-tested' base images like ubuntu and node and we've never had any problems with those, it's always been config fuckups on our end.


I'm more private industry rather than FOSS, but if it counts for anything we're pretty pleased with Docker containers for a lot of the stuff we deploy, and a lot of other businesses we know use them pretty heavily in their workflows too. As for FOSS, I'm not sure. I imagine the standard "you get what you pay for" element of voluntter open-source projects probably accounts for a majority of the problems though.

well, to be fair it's very very unlikely that any of my problems are stemming from docker itself. More likely is the creators of the containers messing up something, but I was under the impression that docker was supposed to work sort of like a VM where if it works on one machine, it works on all of them (surely the maintainers would at least get it running before booting it out the door). That seems like it's not the case.

 

[Considered HARMful]

why is it that I have literally never once had a docker container work? Am I doing something wrong?

Yes, you're trying to use docker.

Is docker actually just overhyped shit?

Also, yes.

 

[Bongocat]

Huh, yeah it seems like there's a lot of issues with ampache in particular.

I suppose admittedly most of the Docker images I've seen have been ones that we've rolled ourselves for clients, so we're mostly pulling from the 'battle-tested' base images like ubuntu and node and we've never had any problems with those, it's always been config fuckups on our end.


I'm more private industry rather than FOSS, but if it counts for anything we're pretty pleased with Docker containers for a lot of the stuff we deploy, and a lot of other businesses we know use them pretty heavily in their workflows too. As for FOSS, I'm not sure. I imagine the standard "you get what you pay for" element of voluntter open-source projects probably accounts for a majority of the problems though.

I tried it on a different machine and it Just Worked as promised. Ampache's interface is total fucking garbage, but that's not dockers fault.

The install process was 5 minutes, and then I spent an hour trying to figure out why I couldn't connect to the server from any other computer even though it's on LAN. Turns out that was my router being 18 levels of megafucked and also nothing to do with docker.

 

[Knight of the Rope]

I tried it on a different machine and it Just Worked as promised. Ampache's interface is total fucking garbage, but that's not dockers fault.

The install process was 5 minutes, and then I spent an hour trying to figure out why I couldn't connect to the server from any other computer even though it's on LAN. Turns out that was my router being 18 levels of megafucked and also nothing to do with docker.

Glad it's working now for you. Yeah the general idea (and it's mostly true from what I've seen in practice) is that once you've got the config sorted, it just works on any OS or architecture, at least in theory.

 

[Bongocat]

Glad it's working now for you. Yeah the general idea (and it's mostly true from what I've seen in practice) is that once you've got the config sorted, it just works on any OS or architecture, at least in theory.

Thanks for the input, at least.
<rant>
what the FUCK is wrong with my router. That machine was set up on on a specific ip address self reported, but no other machine on the network could ping it. I went into my router settings and gave it a static IP address, and then THAT IP also didn't work. By dumb luck I accidentally entered the old IP that was no longer assigned to it, and THAT worked. What the hell, man. Maybe the next time I restart my router it'll actually be the correct IP that it shows
</rant>

 

[steel-eel]

I prefer cinnamon over everything else, gnome is too awful, kde works but is buggy on a NVIDIA laptop, cinnamon is as close to the windows 7 layout I am used to in the linux world that is stable. I just hope the devs are able to work around Gnome's continuing insistence of removing customization in the future.

 

[Grub]

I prefer cinnamon over everything else, gnome is too awful, kde works but is buggy on a NVIDIA laptop, cinnamon is as close to the windows 7 layout I am used to in the linux world that is stable. I just hope the devs are able to work around Gnome's continuing insistence of removing customization in the future.

What's buggy with KDE and nvidia? I've used KDE pretty much exclusively for almost 10 years now and never really had many problems with it. Almost every other DE just seems to lack the sheer level of customization available with KDE without needing to fuck about with window managers and building your own desktop.

 

[steel-eel]

What's buggy with KDE and nvidia? I've used KDE pretty much exclusively for almost 10 years now and never really had many problems with it. Almost every other DE just seems to lack the sheer level of customization available with KDE without needing to fuck about with window managers and building your own desktop.

Maybe it's just my personal experiences, but watching videos was like hell. There was problems with moving programs and what not I remember as well.

 

[Grub]

Maybe it's just my personal experiences, but watching videos was like hell. There was problems with moving programs and what not I remember as well.

Fair enough. Honestly, that's the thing with most Linux setups. You gotta find what works for you. That's also one of the shitty things about Linux setups, You get dudes like me that say shit like 'works for me' with no real help, but luckily you found a setup that 'works for you'. Which is why Linux works so great, it's not a one size fits all solution, that fits poorly, like most cheap globohomo shit, it's a 'be a man and make what works for you' kinda thing.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

So I've rewatched DistroTube's testimonial videos about XMONAD and decided to give it a try. I know next to nothing about Haskell and found the language at least easy on the eyes, at least in the scope of the UI-related code. I feel like it distributes the scale of the windows a lot more respectfully to the available space than DWM, but then again that could be fixed with a patch so, idk.

 

[Bongocat]

Update: do not install Ampache. Every aspect of it is just mind-bendingly horrid. Go with Jellyfin instead.

 

[PFM]

Anyone heard of gen 8 Intel processors having problems with linux? I'm having some odd issues and I was told by someone that gen 8 processors have a lot of issues with linux without any clarification.

 

[69ing Ur Mom]

Anyone heard of gen 8 Intel processors having problems with linux? I'm having some odd issues and I was told by someone that gen 8 processors have a lot of issues with linux without any clarification.

My guess is that problems are caused by fixes for Spectre and Meltdown.

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[seri0us]

The kid killing the cat makes more sense than the explanation Linus gave.


Did you not see this post earlier in the thread? There was a warning that told him he was about to uninstall his desktop. He's either doing dumb stuff on purpose or he's just stupid.

Almost everything I've seen you post in this thread has prose like you were crying as you wrote it

Please find a better outlet where you can reflect on your fucked childhood

 

[BootlegPopeye]

What's buggy with KDE and nvidia? I've used KDE pretty much exclusively for almost 10 years now and never really had many problems with it. Almost every other DE just seems to lack the sheer level of customization available with KDE without needing to fuck about with window managers and building your own desktop.

I took a chance relook at KDE earlier this year after having not used it in a couple of years, and the thing that caused me to uninstall it almost straight away was it's Hi-Dpi support is shit. Cinnamon, strangely, is actually superior to KDE with it, it just werks.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Anyone heard of gen 8 Intel processors having problems with linux? I'm having some odd issues and I was told by someone that gen 8 processors have a lot of issues with linux without any clarification.

No. What problems are you having?

 

[PFM]

No. What problems are you having?

The other morning I woke up to this.... Super laggy UI. I would try and change volume for example and it'd take 5 seconds to respond. 100% load cycling through each core. A restart fixes it but after a few days it seems to happen again.