The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Raging Capybara]

I'm 100% a Windows faggot (and I'll probably be for the rest of my life because of games and music production) but recently I'm thinking of making a very simple PC to just basically torrent shit all day and plug it on my TV to watch stuff. It's going to be a very simple system as you can see and a don't want to deal with all the windows faggotry for that and I decided to install Linux on it. What do you recommend to a complete noob like me?

I was thinking of installing Mint Cinnamon, it runs well on my old 8Gb stick that I'll be using and seems very noobie friendly, and runs all sorts of media out of the box. Is it a good choice for me?

 

[cybertoaster]

I'm seriously consider moving to macs for the first time in forever with their new ARM chips. The price isnt that bad given the power but the walled garden shit and no reparability its really bumming me out man.

This is my biggest linux bitch right now. Even on a igpu laptop from 2016 with everything supported out of the box in Manjaro, suspend/hibernate just fails for no reason with no visible cause in dmesg and the failures are completely random. Sometimes it sleeps fine, other times i'll just reopen it to a 'suspend failed' dialog and 20% battery remaining.

I know, and all the excuses listed on that fedora post above are bullshit

 

[ducktales4gameboy]

I'm 100% a Windows faggot (and I'll probably be for the rest of my life because of games and music production) but recently I'm thinking of making a very simple PC to just basically torrent shit all day and plug it on my TV to watch stuff. It's going to be a very simple system as you can see and a don't want to deal with all the windows faggotry for that and I decided to install Linux on it. What do you recommend to a complete noob like me?

I was thinking of installing Mint Cinnamon, it runs well on my old 8Gb stick that I'll be using and seems very noobie friendly, and runs all sorts of media out of the box. Is it a good choice for me?

Probably yeah. If it supports all your hardware out of the box it should be fine but the one thing to be aware of with anything Debian based is that it tends to favor stability over recent releases, so if you plan to use any app that patches frequently and relies on plug-ins (case in point a lot of the better audio players and password managers) you might run into trouble unless you're willing to compile stuff for yourself.

Also for anyone with a decent amount of ram and more than one gpu (laptops included if they're switchable graphics) if you're feeling daring it's worth looking into libvirt and qemu with gpu passthrough if you hate windows but need to run windows stuff with hardware accel. Takes maybe an hour or two to set up plus maybe a couple more to get passthrough going, but it's very satisfying having all the productivity apps and steam/epic/itch confined to their own tiny windows installs that I just fire up when I need them, Performance is really good too, guides saying you only take a 3-4% gpu perf hit seem to be pretty dead on. The whole setup in general feels like the first time in years I've been able to do everything I need on one machine.

 

[Bongocat]

I'm 100% a Windows faggot (and I'll probably be for the rest of my life because of games and music production) but recently I'm thinking of making a very simple PC to just basically torrent shit all day and plug it on my TV to watch stuff. It's going to be a very simple system as you can see and a don't want to deal with all the windows faggotry for that and I decided to install Linux on it. What do you recommend to a complete noob like me?

I was thinking of installing Mint Cinnamon, it runs well on my old 8Gb stick that I'll be using and seems very noobie friendly, and runs all sorts of media out of the box. Is it a good choice for me?

I do the exact same thing. I suggest using either ZorinOS 16 or xubuntu if you need it to be really low memory. Both have served me really well on every machine I've put them on. Zorin is a lot more comf but xubuntu will run on a literal toaster.

Also for media, look into Jellyfin. I have deluge set up and when its finished downloading it just copies right into the jellyfin data folder and its ready to watch. Couldn't be any easier.

Just don't forget to use a good VPN with a reliable killswitch.

 

[Miller]

Part 3 of their Linux challenge

...and Linus whines about the tahxic users and the gatekeepers.

 

[Look over there]

Part 3 of their Linux challenge

...and Linus whines about the tahxic users and the gatekeepers.

I can't do it. I just can't watch this annoying faggot. Not even for the purpose of mocking him. Not clicking again.

 

[Ahriman]

...and Linus whines about the tahxic users and the gatekeepers.

Where's the lie?

Even I don't like putting up with entitled fuckheads like this one.

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[Frail Snail]

So I went back to linux and I dont know how the fuck they managed to do it but the shit its even more buggy and unstable than it was 10 years ago.

A decade ago I would install Mint on some random dell laptop or a custom desktop and everything just fucking worked, everything, even the proprietary fingerprint sensor.

Now barely anything does, installed PopOS which I was told was the new "better than ubuntu" and shit cant even see the GPU, had to do everything thru the terminal like in arch, but its debian. Also why no distros support hibernation out of the box anymore? I had to spend an entire fucking day trying to make it work and it still barely does. Getting random black screens after sleep too.

NVIDIA drivers? Trusting any techie "better than X" opinion in $CURRENT_YEAR is just asking for trouble.

Part 3 of their Linux challenge

...and Linus whines about the tahxic users and the gatekeepers.

Any good thing is worth gatekeeping, otherwise it gets shat up by refugees. This "a few meanie, bad apples stop me from using your thing" is the Pride Month logo change of Youtuber lingo, useless posturing.

I can't do it. I just can't watch this annoying faggot. Not even for the purpose of mocking him. Not clicking again.

I watched it so you don't have to, but on 1.5x speed because that makes them sound human.

Spoiler: TL;DW

Challenge list:

1. Cut & Paste file from one drive to another
2. Digitally sign PDF
3. Export an Excel chart to image
4. Add new font
5. Print a Word document
6. Compress and send all the files on this (sic) drive
7. Take a screenshot
8. Make a shortcut
9. Connect a network share
10. Setup Discord to run on startup
11. Watch 4K content
12. Watch HDR content.

Refresher: Luke is on Linux Mint, Linus is on Manjaro.
Linus fails: #2, #6
Luke fails: 0
DNF: #12, no support apparently?

Both confused by long compression times, Linus gets griefed by himself and the KDE file manager.

Watching them print with LibreOffice was nightmare-inducing, as Word documents are a minefield. No major issues with office and everyday things on Linux Mint as expected. I predict some asshurt from Luke in future gaming episodes if he hasn't researched setting up latest Wine versions on Mint.

The only moment worth watching the video for: Linus quotes a Manjaro developer at the 22:50 mark, saying "these non-official sources [AUR and Flatpak repositories] can result in downtime". Yeah, and Pamac can result in downtime to the AUR

 

[Ahriman]

The plebbit community weighs in

Linus Tech Tips: Trying to do Simple Tasks on Linux : kde

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[byuu]

Why do people buy hardware from vendors that are hostile to Linux like nvidia and then wonder when stuff doesn't work right?

 

[byuu]

I owned a 1070 before I hoped onto linux so i mean

Which is why you should care about Linux support even if you don't use Linux. Unless you want to be locked in the MS ecosystem for the near future.

 

[cybertoaster]

NVIDIA drivers? Trusting any techie "better than X" opinion in $CURRENT_YEAR is just asking for trouble.


Any good thing is worth gatekeeping, otherwise it gets shat up by refugees. This "a few meanie, bad apples stop me from using your thing" is the Pride Month logo change of Youtuber lingo, useless posturing.


I watched it so you don't have to, but on 1.5x speed because that makes them sound human.

Spoiler: TL;DW

Challenge list:

1. Cut & Paste file from one drive to another
2. Digitally sign PDF
3. Export an Excel chart to image
4. Add new font
5. Print a Word document
6. Compress and send all the files on this (sic) drive
7. Take a screenshot
8. Make a shortcut
9. Connect a network share
10. Setup Discord to run on startup
11. Watch 4K content
12. Watch HDR content.

Refresher: Luke is on Linux Mint, Linus is on Manjaro.
Linus fails: #2, #6
Luke fails: 0
DNF: #12, no support apparently?

Both confused by long compression times, Linus gets griefed by himself and the KDE file manager.

Watching them print with LibreOffice was nightmare-inducing, as Word documents are a minefield. No major issues with office and everyday things on Linux Mint as expected. I predict some asshurt from Luke in future gaming episodes if he hasn't researched setting up latest Wine versions on Mint.

The only moment worth watching the video for: Linus quotes a Manjaro developer at the 22:50 mark, saying "these non-official sources [AUR and Flatpak repositories] can result in downtime". Yeah, and Pamac can result in downtime to the AUR

Nah, radeon, and then I installed the official drivers to see if that fixed it but instead it fucked things even worse than before

I didnt take some techies advice else I would've installed arch and then killed somebody after trying to use it. I went with pop because I was told it was the most stable, the irony.

Also gnome really fuck sucks now, meanwhile KDE its the fastest DE, the fuck its happening?

 

[byuu]

Also gnome really fuck sucks now, meanwhile KDE its the fastest DE, the fuck its happening?

The Gnome devs decided Gnome wasn't tablet-friendly enough and rewrote most of it to be shittier.
The old Gnome is still alive in the form of the MATE desktop.

 

[Frail Snail]

Nah, radeon, and then I installed the official drivers to see if that fixed it but instead it fucked things even worse than before

I didnt take some techies advice else I would've installed arch and then killed somebody after trying to use it. I went with pop because I was told it was the most stable, the irony.

Also gnome really fuck sucks now, meanwhile KDE its the fastest DE, the fuck its happening?

I've heard some really bad experiences with Radeon cards back in the days when you had to install their drivers off the official website like NVIDIA.

Gnome really, really wants to be the #1 MacOS imitator without all the things that make people tolerate Apple's glossy white trashcans and walled gardens. I'd say KDE is cheating a bit, since they maintain an already mature solution in the form of Qt. There's no need to bother with accessibility much because another team has already made tons of progress for you, as an example. I know they promise to keep their fork going if Qt continues to tighten the bolts on their license, but only time will tell whether they have the manpower to do so.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Part 3 of their Linux challenge

...and Linus whines about the tahxic users and the gatekeepers.

I honestly never gave a fuck if Linux got more popular or not, because we know what faggotry popularity introduces, but I sincerely hope we maintain the current learning curve just to keep faggots who plug VPN botnets and Fortnite out of the scene. I don't care about the elitism of the Suckless development team, that's a standard I wholly prefer over whatever an RGB salesman has to say about getting good at anything.

 

[Look over there]

I honestly never gave a fuck if Linux got more popular or not, because we know what faggotry popularity introduces, but I sincerely hope we maintain the current learning curve just to keep faggots who plug VPN botnets and Fortnite out of the scene. I don't care about the elitism of the Suckless development team, that's a standard I wholly prefer over whatever an RGB salesman has to say about getting good at anything.

Really, Linux needs to be less user friendly. Every distribution should only boot to terminal on first install with a message saying "Fuck you noob, rtfm".

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Really, Linux needs to be less user friendly. Every distribution should only boot to terminal on first install with a message saying "Fuck you noob, rtfm".

Telling noobs to RTFM only works if the M is easy to find, concise and up-to-date. In my experience, search results for Linux help will be two of these things at most.

 

[grump]

Daily driving linux for a few years now. gripes for the distros I use

Modern Windows feels like a gui first and foremost. Modern Linux even the easy distros still feel first and foremost like a command line with a thin layer of graphics. Yes I know the command line is powerful and the main thing about linux but if you want to go mainstream flesh the gui out a little.

cobbled together feel where random basic things are hard to do. Like last I checked it was extremely hard compared to windows to get a program in the start menu or pin it to the task bar.

No matter how much i do it installing still feels unintuitive and clunky

Basic software tends to suck compared to windows equivalent: libreoffice/openoffice suck. Gimp is horrible

All the things that come with not being popular. No keyboard lighting software, few games, much smaller support community.. Honestly I'd probably completely abandon windows if I could just run adobe software and game properly since Windows is getting to be even worse with the woke start screens and forced data mining

 

[419]

Telling noobs to RTFM only works if the M is easy to find, concise and up-to-date. In my experience, search results for Linux help will be two of these things at most.

"SEO hell" is a real thing. I've seen so many awful Pajeet-run blogs and wannabe tech news sites that spout the most surface-level observations about Linux distros that I'm almost afraid to recommend it to people just in case they fall for the first obscure search result they find, however bad it might actually be. I say "Pajeet", but ironically enough Mutahar warns about the exact same thing in the video he made recently as a primer for moving from Windows.

Spoiler: Further rambling

More egregiously, I found at one point that the site for an old joke distro, "Ubuntu Satanic Edition", got its domain bought out by one of these low-effort blogs that had redirects set up for things like the About and Download page, presumably as kind of a legacy thing for people still trying to find it. Unfortunately, they didn't bother doing anything more than copy-pasting raw text without any links, let alone provide an actual mirror.



fuck you >Sunil you curry prick

 

[Look over there]

Telling noobs to RTFM only works if the M is easy to find, concise and up-to-date. In my experience, search results for Linux help will be two of these things at most.

First time I installed Linux (which was Mandriva Linux, to let you know how long ago that was) it was at a place where all I had was some burned CDs and no internet. NO internet to turn to for help. The only book I had to help me was "UNIX For Dummies" which had fuck all about installation. I had to actually read error messages and try and work out WTF they meant. I managed it.

Of course I realised pretty soon that Redhat = big gay, so switched to Debian based distros shortly after.