The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[AnOminous]

I have a Windows 7 VM that I seldom use when helping others or if I need to quickly use something Windows-only real quick. For frequent use it'd be too cumbersome and retarded, though.

The great thing about VMs is I can always run a Linux system and run Windows in a VM for anything I really need Windows for. Or run Windows and have one, or many Linux VMs for the same reason. Suck my dick, reality, I can have as many imaginary machines as I like.

 

[Knight of the Rope]

What's the point of having Windows in a VM? If you're running Windows you might as well have it on a partition and skip any overhead.

Do you mean like a dual-boot setup that you have to reboot the computer into every time you want to switch OSes? That seems much more cumbersome than just having a Windows 10 VM permanently full-screened on a separate workspace that I can Ctrl+Alt+Down into whenever I need Word or Powerpoint.

 

[Ahriman]

Here it is, the finale

 

[Toolbox]

Here it is, the finale

Don't feel like watching another meandering Linus video that attempts to sate every side yet barely explain anything. What's the real deal on linux compatibility? What proportion of games just on steam are compatible, percentage wise, with Linux that would typically only function on windows?

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Here it is, the finale

Thank fuck the blocktube extension works through embeds.

 

[Ahriman]

Don't feel like watching another meandering Linus video that attempts to sate every side yet barely explain anything. What's the real deal on linux compatibility? What proportion of games just on steam are compatible, percentage wise, with Linux that would typically only function on windows?

While it's true that Proton and Lutris do all the heavy lifting, 100% Linux native games are not as common. He then brings up a retarded example of how he can't play Forza 5 purchased through the MS Store -- while the Steam version runs great.

Gettin' real tired of the cherrypicking, Linus.

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[Aidan]

Don't feel like watching another meandering Linus video that attempts to sate every side yet barely explain anything. What's the real deal on linux compatibility? What proportion of games just on steam are compatible, percentage wise, with Linux that would typically only function on windows?

Regarding Steam specifically this is a good indicator of how well a non-Linux game runs on Linux using Steam Proton.

https://www.protondb.com/

Generally speaking, online-only games don't work that well due to anticheat but Valve is working to fix this too.

 

[Ahriman]

Know the difference, it could save your life.

 

[awoo]

Do you mean like a dual-boot setup that you have to reboot the computer into every time you want to switch OSes? That seems much more cumbersome than just having a Windows 10 VM permanently full-screened on a separate workspace that I can Ctrl+Alt+Down into whenever I need Word or Powerpoint.

yes. most of my windows stuff only works with other windows stuff and I don't want to deal with VM overhead

 

[Ahriman]

 

[Gun Safety]

For the past year I've been using Linux, more or less, started off on the laptop I use for most stuff I do, then I installed it on my hand-me-down desktop for video games. For the most part I've been digging it. I've totally bought the FOSS philosophy, GPL3 or bust etc.

But my biggest draw to going to Linux was honestly the window managers, and as someone who has a full time job it has been a pain in the ass. Everytime I want to try some new window manager, or 'rice' it, it's been something I had to basically take a day out of my life with regular coffee breaks to figure out.

I suppose I don't mind myself because I've learned a lot about Linux but aside from a few distros that install I3 by default (and half the time break) there are not installs that have a simple window manger customizers. Why don't people invest into this? I would think that would pretty simple. The best one I know of Luke Smiths' Auto Ricing thingy, aside from Manjaro's I3 install. But those aren't customizable, you have to take them, leave 'em, or just might as well start from scratch yourself.

Okay someone tell me I'm retarded and there's an easily customizable window manager without fucking with config or source files.

 

[Knight of the Rope]

But my biggest draw to going to Linux was honestly the window managers, and as someone who has a full time job it has been a pain in the ass. Everytime I want to try some new window manager, or 'rice' it, it's been something I had to basically take a day out of my life with regular coffee breaks to figure out.

Underlined is your 'problem'. (And also the answer to "why don't people invest in this?", incidentally.)

Ricing is fun right up until you've got actual work to do.

 

[Equivocal_Iki]

For the past year I've been using Linux, more or less, started off on the laptop I use for most stuff I do, then I installed it on my hand-me-down desktop for video games. For the most part I've been digging it. I've totally bought the FOSS philosophy, GPL3 or bust etc.

But my biggest draw to going to Linux was honestly the window managers, and as someone who has a full time job it has been a pain in the ass. Everytime I want to try some new window manager, or 'rice' it, it's been something I had to basically take a day out of my life with regular coffee breaks to figure out.

I suppose I don't mind myself because I've learned a lot about Linux but aside from a few distros that install I3 by default (and half the time break) there are not installs that have a simple window manger customizers. Why don't people invest into this? I would think that would pretty simple. The best one I know of Luke Smiths' Auto Ricing thingy, aside from Manjaro's I3 install. But those aren't customizable, you have to take them, leave 'em, or just might as well start from scratch yourself.

Okay someone tell me I'm retarded and there's an easily customizable window manager without fucking with config or source files.

I've made an openbox setup with tiling shortcuts you might be interested in. I wanted to get into i3, but the forced mouse focus didn't work with keepass so I stopped. Some basic tiling shortcuts (like how you would press super+left and super+right on windows) on a non-tiling window manager is plenty.

Look into how to configure openbox (~/.config/openbox/rc.xml). You can do a lot with it.

From my experience, if there's a way to do something even if it requires the terminal and messing with config files, no one cares to make it easier. And once you finally figure out how to customize it yourself, you're likely not going to program a GUI to make it easier for others and instead just lead others to configure it the way you did it. So it ends up staying that way.

 

[nah]

For the past year I've been using Linux, more or less, started off on the laptop I use for most stuff I do, then I installed it on my hand-me-down desktop for video games. For the most part I've been digging it. I've totally bought the FOSS philosophy, GPL3 or bust etc.

But my biggest draw to going to Linux was honestly the window managers, and as someone who has a full time job it has been a pain in the ass. Everytime I want to try some new window manager, or 'rice' it, it's been something I had to basically take a day out of my life with regular coffee breaks to figure out.

I suppose I don't mind myself because I've learned a lot about Linux but aside from a few distros that install I3 by default (and half the time break) there are not installs that have a simple window manger customizers. Why don't people invest into this? I would think that would pretty simple. The best one I know of Luke Smiths' Auto Ricing thingy, aside from Manjaro's I3 install. But those aren't customizable, you have to take them, leave 'em, or just might as well start from scratch yourself.

Okay someone tell me I'm retarded and there's an easily customizable window manager without fucking with config or source files.

Linux is the tuner culture for nerds, and ricing especially so. Like @Equivocal_Iki said, once one person figures out how to work with the config or source, they're not going to make it easier for anyone else unless they want (are paid) to. Which means you're going to have to RTFM for any of the tiling window managers that I know of. This doesn't answer your question, but if you know a particular language maybe one of these would work for you:

• Haskell - xmonad
• Lua - awesome
• C - dwm

Otherwise, I think i3 and bspwm are plain-text configuration files.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Openbox has decent enough defaults and can be easily tweaked through a gui configuration tool. Be warned though, if you want to get your knees dirty with code it has one of the ugliest and most annoyingly formatted syntax's ever: xml. If you don't keep your chunks staggered properly it'll have a bitch fit.

Honestly, I recommend IceWM for being essentially one half a desktop environment. You get a bar, tray, clock, a mailbox indicator, workspace switcher with miniature view, and window snapping options. It also doesn't conform to childlike flatness of the nu-GUI paradigm.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Since CentOS pre-Stream trails RHEL, the issue (isn't always a bug!) is usually identified in RHEL before CentOS, which enables these users to simply skip that release and not even bother running it through their own regression tests.

Yeah this was generally IT's problem, since we need to be locked down hard. It's not a problem of losing millions of dollars as an enterprise customer problem it's more like we don't want to be vulnerable to Russians deciding to take our servers for a joyride.

But as it turns out we get RHEL for free, so whatever.

 

[AmpleApricots]

Somebody gifted me some chinesium 8" Windows Tablet for Christmas I highly suspect they got gifted themselves at some point. It's got an Z8350 Atom SoC with 4 GB of RAM. It had some terribly outdated Windows 10 installation that updated itself into a corner/update loop with the eMMC being too full to update further with only the OS installed. (64GB even!) I guess that's the windows user experience everyone is talking about.

I threw linux on it, cherry trail does need a surprisingly recent kernel though. It's a cool little computer and the 8" screen at 1920x1200 is absolutely brilliant with small fonts. (no surprise, that's almost 300 DPI after all) Since it's essentially a PC in a unusually small form factor you're not locked into ARM SoC vendor hell and updates will be available as long as linux supports x86_64 which should be a long-ass time. It has two USB ports and even a HDMI-out port. I'm not quite sure what to do with it and I would've never bought one myself but it is kinda nice and very mobile at it's size and even browsing on it is still pretty decent if you strip it all down to the only-needed parts. X11 really wasn't made for a touch screen though and I am still thinking of a solution there.

The funny thing is, when I googled this SoC all I could find is hate at how slow and useless it is. The same people will drool all over ARM SBCs which are quite a bit slower. (This thing should even run circles around the Pi 4 and even other high end ARM SoCs and has extras like AES-NI which most of them don't have, also 4 gigs of RAM) Then the ARM SoCs are also often poorly supported and need proprietary blobs which might or might not work with recent kernels. It might use a little bit more power than some of them but then again, not really. Also the often beloved and pointless usage scenario of retro games this thing should pull off better, especially if it's DOS related stuff, earlier DirectX games like Morrowind should also run smoothly on it. I don't quite get anymore why ARM is so beloved by the "linux tinkerers". Power of Marketing, I suppose.

 

[Ahriman]

 

[Ahriman]

Looks pretty nice.

 

[Stasi]

Looks pretty nice.

That default wallpaper is terrifying, like it's staring into my very soul.