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even my t420 and t410 has 8gb

If you're in India and can't get parts or are comically poor I can see it. That or running a pi but even then that can hit 8gb.

Meanwhile Windows 11 idles at 2gb up to 8gb lmao
 
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AnOminous said:
I am avoiding that like the plague. It is like literally globohomo as an OS. I even turned off the motherboard options that would allow it to be installed. Pure legacy for me.
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I have no idea what is going on with w11. W10 still has a ton of old 'legacy' windows menus from before w8. They haven't even finished it yet. Now w11 comes out and you can't install it without an MS account, even w10 was updated to be like that as well. Thanks. I totally like having to be forced to use an account for my OS, Geforce experience, my mouse hub, my video game launcher, and then an entirely separate one for a single player video game too for some reason.

The NSA had to announce an exploit that was discovered in w10. https://tech.co/news/nsa-warning-windows-10-bug-2020-01 . Gosh, weird how they're the ones that announced it. Could it perhaps be that... they knew about it before it leaked maybe?

I can't wait until they just say fuck it and make Windows a sub model. Linux is free if you are willing to learn but at least its free. Linus Torvolds isn't forcing me to create a Linux Foundation account.
 
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my video card has 16 GB of straight RAM, and it isn't even a high end one.
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At low end we're talking shit like APUs or intel graphics. Which is really all what most people need.

a6858d43 said:
even my t420 and t410 has 8gb

If you're in India and can't get parts or are comically poor I can see it. That or running a pi but even then that can hit 8gb.
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Look at stuff like 200-300$ laptops or Chromebooks, shit you'd get for someone who just wants a facebook machine.
You still see 4GB RAM machines being sold quite a lot.
 
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Pushing Up Tiddies said:
Buy two disks.
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I don't know if this is sarcasm or not but I do know someone that used to keep two hard disks around for his laptop and would pop the disk out when he would want to use another operating system. He did explain his system and said he did because partitioning a disk for two operating systems isn't a stable proposition.

The problem is now laptops are moving towards NVM drives and who wants to constantly remove a sensitive electronic device?
 
Pushing Up Tiddies said:
It's not leaking, it's using a stable amount, it's just that 10MB+ seems like a lot for what it's doing (tracking a handful of window outlines).
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If you're that concerned with it, there's always dwm. I kept wanting to use it as well as st, but mixing source-based software with custom patches into a binary distro's package manager so it gets updated together with your system is too much for my peanut sized brain.

a6858d43 said:
To be fair you also won't go from clean shaven to full beard by the time you're done installing Arch, unlike Gentoo

~50mb VS ~500mb is a huge difference up until you have 16gb+ ram like any modern machine has
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Fair point, but once every single developer is thinking of 16+ GB as normal and modern, you have a problem brewing. Software developers having monster rigs as work machines has been a huge detriment to program quality for the general public. I feel something primal rising up inside me every time I read a message from some IT bugman, typed out on his 1500$+ rig, about how super performant and fluid his landwhale app is. It's just a couple of gigs, bro, come on! It's $current_year!
 
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a6858d43 said:
I have no idea what is going on with w11. W10 still has a ton of old 'legacy' windows menus from before w8. They haven't even finished it yet. Now w11 comes out and you can't install it without an MS account, even w10 was updated to be like that as well. Thanks. I totally like having to be forced to use an account for my OS, Geforce experience, my mouse hub, my video game launcher, and then an entirely separate one for a single player video game too for some reason.

The NSA had to announce an exploit that was discovered in w10. https://tech.co/news/nsa-warning-windows-10-bug-2020-01 . Gosh, weird how they're the ones that announced it. Could it perhaps be that... they knew about it before it leaked maybe?

I can't wait until they just say fuck it and make Windows a sub model. Linux is free if you are willing to learn but at least its free. Linus Torvolds isn't forcing me to create a Linux Foundation account.
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Actually "que smarmy nerd meme" windows 10 still can be installed without a microsoft account. I know this because I setup some windows vms purely for school work & was able to find it. They just tried to make it as hidden as fucking possible. I can't comment much on windows 11 since the only thing I know about it is that apparently you can't even change your audio output settings without buying a license or some bullshit.
 
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ellroy said:
I don't know if this is sarcasm or not but I do know someone that used to keep two hard disks around for his laptop and would pop the disk out when he would want to use another operating system. He did explain his system and said he did because partitioning a disk for two operating systems isn't a stable proposition.

The problem is now laptops are moving towards NVM drives and who wants to constantly remove a sensitive electronic device?
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Maybe it's just me but I haven't had a Windows/Linux dual boot problem since UEFI. They both install to their separate corners in the partition, I set the bios to Linux/GRUB and use that to choose which one I want. Windows(10) updates fine and hasn't stomped on anything in my several years of doing it.
byuu said:
NVMe SSDs and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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Once programmers no longer had to hardwire their programs into the computer it was all bloat from there.
 
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byuu said:
Look at stuff like 200-300$ laptops or Chromebooks, shit you'd get for someone who just wants a facebook machine.
You still see 4GB RAM machines being sold quite a lot.
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Personally if I gave someone a facebook machine it'd be a thinkpad with silverblue and automatic updates. That way I know they CANNOT fuck it up. I've run sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root / in toolbox just for fun, so I know its not possible for a normie to break it.

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Fair point, but once every single developer is thinking of 16+ GB as normal and modern, you have a problem brewing. Software developers having monster rigs as work machines has been a huge detriment to program quality for the general public. I feel something primal rising up inside me every time I read a message from some IT bugman, typed out on his 1500$+ rig, about how super performant and fluid his landwhale app is. It's just a couple of gigs, bro, come on! It's $current_year!
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Discord comes to mind. They clearly must have programmed that with 128gb ram. I don't know why the fuck they used electron, the least they could do is let you use third party.

I'm so bitter that terminal discord just gets you banned. Having a terminal RSS feed + Discord + Lynx or other for browsing the farms would be kinda cozy.
 
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a6858d43 said:
Discord comes to mind. They clearly must have programmed that with 128gb ram. I don't know why the fuck they used electron
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Too stingy to hire non-javashits when the web app took off. Desktop GUIs are also fucked. Do you roll the dice on Qt's license lottery or try to decipher what breaking changes the fart huffing faggots at Gnome are making this week? It's the stacking that really kills it. Messenger? Browser. Game launcher? Browser. Programming IDE? Browser. At least let me have the option of opening this shit in a regular browser tab so I don't have to run 3 copies of it side-by-side.

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the least they could do is let you use third party.
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Scraping the data as a non-bot client is against Discord's ToS, you're the product.

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I'm so bitter that terminal discord just gets you banned. Having a terminal RSS feed + Discord + Lynx or other for browsing the farms would be kinda cozy.
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Software as a service is a blind spot for FOSS and freetards in general. GPL stops mattering when whatever you want to interact with is on a proprietary server and gated by undocumented APIs. The companies pumping this shit out, however, are very glad to use open source programs and Linux as a base.
 
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Software as a service is a blind spot for FOSS and freetards in general. GPL stops mattering when whatever you want to interact with is on a proprietary server and gated by undocumented APIs. The companies pumping this shit out, however, are very glad to use open source programs and Linux as a base.
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This is exactly the corner-case that brought about Affero GPL. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-affero-gpl.en.html
 
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Personally if I gave someone a facebook machine it'd be a thinkpad with silverblue and automatic updates. That way I know they CANNOT fuck it up. I've run sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root / in toolbox just for fun, so I know its not possible for a normie to break it.
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I generally avoid obviously fatal commands like this but is it possible to completely block out that specific command via aliases?
 
AlephOne2Many said:
I generally avoid obviously fatal commands like this but is it possible to completely block out that specific command via aliases?
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If you're running that specific command, as root, with the "Yes, do as I say" option, you're already manually bypassing a few layers of protection.

Besides which, the switches can come in any combination and order so you'd have to come up with something pretty clever. "rm -rf", "rm -Rf", and "rm -fr" work identically for example.
 
byuu said:
At low end we're talking shit like APUs or intel graphics. Which is really all what most people need.
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Tbh minus some CUDA stuff that's all I need too. I was doing fine with just that, literally Intel graphics on one MacBook and a low end GeForce on-board adapter for a 2010 MBP. It was actually a mild shock to upgrade from this 2010 shit to a new system and realize my fucking video card alone had more computational capacity than any previous computer I ever owned.
Kosher Dill said:
If you're running that specific command, as root, with the "Yes, do as I say" option, you're already manually bypassing a few layers of protection.

Besides which, the switches can come in any combination and order so you'd have to come up with something pretty clever. "rm -rf", "rm -Rf", and "rm -fr" work identically for example.
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Avoid any possible "-f" option unless you know exactly what you're forcing.
 
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