The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

davids877 said:
Considering one of the the first complaints from Linux users is "who is this cache/buffers guy and why is he using all my RAM". Yes. Linux(and Unix in general) is very aggressive about keeping useful stuff in RAM, even to the point that it will swap stuff out that's not used. "Why is my system using swap, why doesn't it just use the cache".
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Mr. Buffers von Cache comes to eat all your RAM.

I don't know why people get so weird about this. It's a good thing that Linux is actually using as much free RAM as it can to store pages because what the hell else do you have it in your computer for.
 
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Fucking hell, tried to install Debian last night on my main PC, and Jesus I don't think it likes my hardware. Any other distro works ok out of the box, but Debian just is wonky with it. Try to boot up after installing, and services just flat out refuse to run. Find a solution online, and sweet that service is running now! Oh no now another service isn't running and I am hung up on boot. Quality. Even with the non-free firmware installation. Oh guess I'll try another desktop enviroment other then KDE. Oh hey, able to boot! Nope, XFCE out of the box for me comes with no sensitivity options to use. Stuck with acceleration only, and all online solutions don't work. Cinnamon at least has the option, but the configuration part doesn't work for whatever reason. Its funny, for all my other devices, Debian runs fantastically, but Jesus it absolutely hates my main PC. Might be because I have newer hardware. At his point, I think I might settle with Mint, since it almost always "Just werks". God I hope it does. Want to get the fuck out of this hell that is Windows 11, 10 isn't much better.
 
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For real Gnome would be actually better if it gave you a first-boot option (by default) for whatever layout you want, like the distros that ship with it.

Zorin got Gnome defaults right, in spite of my contention.
 
Mister Uno said:
Fucking hell, tried to install Debian last night on my main PC, and Jesus I don't think it likes my hardware. Any other distro works ok out of the box, but Debian just is wonky with it. Try to boot up after installing, and services just flat out refuse to run.
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I thought I was just retarded this whole time and somehow screwing it up. Glad I'm not the only one. Debian """"stable""""
 
|>r4I53}{3LI>< said:
I thought I was just retarded this whole time and somehow screwing it up. Glad I'm not the only one. Debian """"stable""""
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I tried installing it with XFCE (KDE version still had issues) and a testing build (weekly). Started working fine with the exception of the acceleration problem, which I will try to tweak with tonight. Tested some vidya (Yugioh Master Duel, Dominions 5, and 7 Days to Die), worked great for the most part. Not sure what difference a desktop environment really makes, and I am certain the testing branch has the drivers I needed.
 
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I thought I was just retarded this whole time and somehow screwing it up. Glad I'm not the only one. Debian """"stable""""
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Stable is only going to work for you if your hardware is at least 10 years old. I've had few problems lately with Testing on my hardware from this decade, admittedly with non-free as well. Biggest one being my AMD+Nvidia Laptop, which still needs some settings tweaked to get the IGPU and Nvidia happy together, which did work fine, as far as I remember, with Ubuntu 21.10.
 
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Mister Uno said:
Debian just is wonky with it. Try to boot up after installing, and services just flat out refuse to run
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serves you right you trusted systemd.

Install Devuan you dumb nigger.
Kosher Dill said:
I'm waiting for some major application to unironically start packaging itself as Docker or VM images.
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A much better idea than wasting time with this appimage/flatpak crap.
davids877 said:
Totally not a clone...
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To be fair, they did put the date and time at the other end of the bar.
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Just looks like a civilized desktop environment, like OS/2 Warp, to me. KDE2 had some great BEOS style themes.
 
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Mister Uno said:
I tried installing it with XFCE (KDE version still had issues) and a testing build (weekly). Started working fine with the exception of the acceleration problem, which I will try to tweak with tonight. Tested some vidya (Yugioh Master Duel, Dominions 5, and 7 Days to Die), worked great for the most part. Not sure what difference a desktop environment really makes, and I am certain the testing branch has the drivers I needed.
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The difference could be in the way its maintainers configure their respective DE flavors. KDE itself has a gorillion config options compared to XFCE. They also have different display managers, IIRC. If you're going the Testing route, you can always try out anything Arch-based as long as you're in the distrohopping phase. Its Wiki is the single best resource for troubleshooting things by yourself anyway, even on Debian.
 
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I use pop os and I don't like it that much are there any different Ubuntu based distros you guys can recommend.
 
fesca said:
I use pop os and I don't like it that much are there any different Ubuntu based distros you guys can recommend.
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Linux Mint is generally pretty good.

Heck, Ubuntu itself is pretty good (and I just don't hate Snaps enough for that opinion to change). Or one of the other DE flavors (e.g. Kubuntu for a pretty decent KDE setup).

Or you can even spread your seed out in the world and check out Fedora or Manjaro. Or you can go full Reddit and dive into Arch Linux or Gentoo or Slackware. Being a faggot ricer at some point in your journey is basically a rite of passage for Linuxfags, but it really is a young fella's game and the second you have IRL responsibilities like a job or a family or getting laid on the reg you just don't have the time to devote an entire afternoon to rebuilding a system (e.g. because you Russian Roulette'd your system by not installing updates for a week and now Pacman has fucked you like the fickle bitch that she is), so it's best to get the ricing out of your system early when you've got less going on. It's all Linux underneath anyway, so it's all good.
 
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Knight of the Rope said:
Or you can even spread your seed out in the world and check out Fedora or Manjaro. Or you can go full Reddit and dive into Arch Linux or Gentoo or Slackware. Being a faggot ricer at some point in your journey is basically a rite of passage for Linuxfags, but it really is a young fella's game and the second you have IRL responsibilities like a job or a family or getting laid on the reg you just don't have the time to devote an entire afternoon to rebuilding a system (e.g. because you Russian Roulette'd your system by not installing updates for a week and now Pacman has fucked you like the fickle bitch that she is), so it's best to get the ricing out of your system early when you've got less going on. It's all Linux underneath anyway, so it's all good.
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Arch breaks less often than you think it would. I still recommend Fedora for people who use their computers for actual work though.
 
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eternal dog mongler said:
Mr. Buffers von Cache comes to eat all your RAM.

I don't know why people get so weird about this. It's a good thing that Linux is actually using as much free RAM as it can to store pages because what the hell else do you have it in your computer for.
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If your swap space is on an SSD this is also good because you don't want swapping hammering on an SSD 24/7 if you don't need to, and if you need to very often you should be considering more memory or maybe a crappy cheap SSD for swap. Also that "eaten" RAM is still available, and the manager is there to manage memory use including relinquishing needed memory while dumping cache on some kind of priority basis I don't entirely get.
 
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Isam said:
Snapd and Flatpak spells a terrible future for the Linux ecosystems.
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Yes, learning a package manager isn't hard.
Especially when it is incredibly easy to look up. People who complain about the need for universal packages are fags who migrated from Windows and expected Wangblows like features. I would be open to the idea if the drawbacks weren't so noticeable. I also despise the fact some people never attempt to make a proper port of their program (although it depends on the language honestly). If I was a programmer, it would be learning experience I may or may not hate, but appreciate in the long run. Hell one of the games I play recently gave their Linux port some love, and load and behold it runs better then on Windows (although it seems to have a memory leak as well, but that is common with them).
 
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AnOminous said:
It is both a strength and a weakness of Linux to have a huge array of package managers but it is too bad so many of them suck. Ironically one of the better ones for what it does is Homebrew for MacOS. They even ported it to Linux itself which strikes me as mildly insane.
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fun challenge: try to think of an analogy as absurd as porting homebrew to linux
porting wine to windows
 
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