The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Had]

I've bought full builds from XY-Tech and I've been pretty pleased with them. The early batches of screen mods were a bit quirky and temperamental but on the whole the quality is good.

Thanks so much, this is just the thing I was looking for!

 

[Had]

I love how linux, doesn't need to gate keep retarded youtubers because they're too stupid to fix basic issues.
he distro hops from pop -> mint -> ubuntu
His "biggest issue" was with input lag on resizing things (it's a whole millisecond slower!)

He literally points to linus bricking his system for proof of how it's hard for new users, witch would be more understandable if understanding and show casing tech wasn't literally linus's job.

 

[AnOminous]

He literally points to linus bricking his system for proof of how it's hard for new users, witch would be more understandable if understanding and show casing tech wasn't literally linus's job.

Linus is a retard tho and prolly bricks his Windows machine regularly as well.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Linus is a retard tho and prolly bricks his Windows machine regularly as well.

Well and also he probably did it for clicks.

There are fun ways you can murder your Linux install if you're trying to be a package maintainer, but at that point I assume you know what you're getting into.

 

[gnephelos]

There are fun ways you can murder your Linux install if you're trying to be a package maintainer, but at that point I assume you know what you're getting into.

The most fun one is deleting /lib/libc.so.6 and watching everything fall apart/not be able to run

 

[Admin Dissipate Swordfish]

I remember taking this screenshot from reddit somewhere and it reminded me of Linux and the adventure with using it:

I still keep coming back to try Linux, but every time I meet a roadblock that eats up my spare time and energy which incentivizes me to pursue my other hobbies rather than keep fiddling with Linux.

Still, I'd like to hear what are everyone's tips & tricks to recommend to someone trying Linux as a newbie, and also what mentalities would be useful to have in order to make exploring Linux more fun

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Ideally I'd suggest to a new user to keep the terminal handy, but not everyone is me...

I can start by suggesting the most stable option if you don't really know what will happen with your installation experience, don't get wrapped up in init and utility bullshit, and go with what "just werx" until you can find resources (such as time) to even fiddle around more. Even if you've had mostly successful experiences, when in doubt go with the safest option among Linux distros, even if it's still a shit example of a "just works" distribution.

Fedora seems good enough if someone in your circle is real picky about vanilla software, and aren't sweating bullets over system updates.

Again, then work your way up the ladder if you can or feel like getting your elbows greased.

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

Still, I'd like to hear what are everyone's tips & tricks to recommend to someone trying Linux as a newbie, and also what mentalities would be useful to have in order to make exploring Linux more fun

Hey. I’m a Linux newfag (think it was June) when I started messing around and I wish I had done it earlier. If you have a spare drive, use that. The ones with installers will set up dual boot for you. I started with an arch distro (not recommended for newbies) with the attitude of when I break it, I’ll learn something. I use that distro predominately. I also have Mint installed as lots of people said to try it.

Try Mint. It’s very easy to setup. Looks like ass to me but I changed the desktop environment and never looked back. Windows is still there but it’s once in a blue moon I use it.

My next project is to install Arch on that spare drive from the ground up. Just because I like tinkering and learning.

 

[gnephelos]

My next project is to install Arch on that spare drive from the ground up. Just because I like tinkering and learning.

Gentoo is also a pretty good distro to tinker around with and have some fun.
Though if you want to go hardcore theres always KISS or LFS as options for tinkering/DIY distros

 

[Sperg Coalition]

Still, I'd like to hear what are everyone's tips & tricks to recommend to someone trying Linux as a newbie, and also what mentalities would be useful to have in order to make exploring Linux more fun

I would recommend trying Linux on a virtual machine to be on the safe side and starting with either Ubuntu or it's derivatives (like Kubuntu for example).

Another suggestion that I would do is to try at least to learn the basic command line commands as the terminal is pretty powerful once you learn how to use it.

But the most important suggestion that I would give is to start realizing that Linux does not work like Windows or MacOSX, I say this because I've seen some newbies expect that Linux works exactly the same as these two operating systems.

 

[一个日志]

Still, I'd like to hear what are everyone's tips & tricks to recommend to someone trying Linux as a newbie, and also what mentalities would be useful to have in order to make exploring Linux more fun

In a world where everyone is against you and your right to personal autonomy, Linux is not easy. Microsoft and Apple, makes it easy for you to be a bootlicker. Just look at dear feeder, a couple of streams using Linux (Manjaro? at the time, (sidenote, Manjaro is a shit distro maintained by retards dont use it, just use arch instead, latest fuckup they forgot to renew their ssl certificate for the 5th time)) and he comes running back to safe and idiot proof Microsoft singing the praises of LTSB while licking the boot.

This is the mindset you need to try and avoid. Linux is not easy, and you will have troubles. Everything is not catered to you when you use Linux, and you need to Improvise. Adapt. Overcome. Drink Piss.

Now that I cant get off my soapbox and stop preaching. I started with Arch, I would really not recommend that.

I would recommend trying Linux on a virtual machine to be on the safe side

This is really good advice. It will allow you to fuck up and nuke everything without destroying stuff you care about. and if someone ever tells you "Linux is only free if you dont value your time",

Tell them this:
Installing updates 2 of 45
Please do not turn off your computer

A final tip. setup your aliases as soon as possible, and learn how to use them, it will save you so much time.

Spoiler: And remember

Xorg is always broken,
Snap, Flatpack Sucks

Protip: ESC then Shift + ZZ

btw i use arch.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

just use arch instead

Arch had that issue with the grub update recently, which, whatever. Fine. Rolling release, #yolo, etc. and it was easy enough to recover from assuming you had a bootable USB and could chroot in.

What was weird was that there wasn't anything sent out on the mailing lists about it. Usually they try to give people a heads up if an update that rolls out causes problems.

 

[Gatdam Animal Person]

Still, I'd like to hear what are everyone's tips & tricks to recommend to someone trying Linux as a newbie, and also what mentalities would be useful to have in order to make exploring Linux more fun

I suggest you watch Linux videos while doing something else. Eventually, a spark will emerge and you will be compelled to tinker and explore new foreign rabbit holes.

And I strongly suggest to install Timeshift in case you fuckup something. Linux Mint includes (and maintains) it by default too!

 

[一个日志]

Arch had that issue with the grub update recently, which, whatever. Fine. Rolling release, #yolo, etc. and it was easy enough to recover from assuming you had a bootable USB and could chroot in.

What was weird was that there wasn't anything sent out on the mailing lists about it. Usually they try to give people a heads up if an update that rolls out causes problems.

I had to check, I got an email 8/30, what mailing lists do you use? this was sent out on announce

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I had to check, I got an email 8/30, what mailing lists do you use? this was sent out on announce

Not that one, apparently. Although IIRC that grub update was pushed 8/25 so that's a bit late.

I'm just in the dev one since I maintain some arch packages.

 

[byuu]

GRUB2 was a mistake.

 

[gnephelos]

GRUB2 was a mistake.

What's wrong with grub? i have no issues with it aside from the lack of a proper command to update it

 

[AmpleApricots]

Last time I looked into grub it was overengineered garbage, I guess it hasn't gotten better.

with efi stub, the kernel can be booted directly without any dedicated bootloader, just fling it on a few MB of FAT32 partition. One good thing about EFI firmware. You get a bit less flexibility but it never really mattered to me. My kernel is bundled with an hand-woven initramfs that decrypts the harddrive and hands over to runit init, it's a very simple and effective setup. I don't even know in which ways I'd need to violate my computer and myself to manage something similar with stuff like grub and systemd and frankly, I don't wanna know. Little fun fact - at least at one point the IP of the cloudfare DNS resolver 1.1.1.1 was hard-coded into systemd. It might still be for all I know. That's one way by cloudflare to track all urls you ever open I guess.

In a world where everyone is against you and your right to personal autonomy, Linux is not easy.

Distro maintainers are often the tranny janny archetype and absolute lolcows, if you think you're free of that shit in the land of OSS, think again.

I built my own thing on top of KISS Linux, the base system is 100% mine and I'm the maintainer. If I use software that's complicated/exposed to the internet/whatever I use files of whatever distribution, without being dependent on any particular one. If I don't like the software or a particular distro install anymore: rm -r.

This kind of independence demands knowledge of how things work. Without that knowledge you'll always be dependent on others to do it for you, and their possible agendas. Can't have it both ways.

 

[Toolbox]

I've been using a steam deck for the past little while and personally I prefer it's desktop mode Linux variant to any version of Linux I've tried so far. I think it's possible to get steamOS installed on a pc itself, but what was it modified off of so I could start there? What are the negatives of using it as a windows replacement?

 

[teriyakiburns]

at least at one point the IP of the cloudfare DNS resolver 1.1.1.1 was hard-coded into systemd. It might still be for all I know. That's one way by cloudflare to track all urls you ever open I guess.

Nah, it was google's resolvers, not cloudflare, and unless I'm mistaken, it's still hard-coded into systemd-resolved.