The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

General consensus is that if you have an Nvidia card then lmao.
Nvidia doesn't support Linux like AMD does.
Next time I'm going AMD anyway. Since EVGA is done I don't really have a reason to stick. I've used AMD on Linux before with the same system and I had no issues besides video playback while playing a game was choppy, but it did the same thing on Windows.
 
Fuck man. I getting sick of this shit. I'm 90% sure its my hardware, but I keep getting issues with my display.
One day on Debian its fine, updated and all, had to reinstall since I fucked something up somehow. Now the display drivers (which was the same) decides it no longer wants me to use 144Hz on my monitor. And if I do switch to it, the monitor will go blank and I can't revert it. So damn frustrating. And almost every other distro has a variety of my issue except Pop_Os, which also fixes my long going mouse issue where I can only change acceleration but not sensitivity. I just want to use Debian for more than a month without some damn issue, and I don't even edit much once I finish the initial install. Again, I am 90% sure its my hardware not agreeing with Linux.

EDIT: I have a Nvidia 3080

I don't mean to go on about my technical issues, but damn it seems to be most of my experience on Linux since I built this PC a bit more than a year ago. Makes it hard for me to want to fully commit. Note to those reading, check to see if your shit is compatible with Linux before buying.
Your problem is using Debian, Debian is for stability, its the Windows XP of Linux. For 3080, you'd need to use the nvidia proprietery drivers. Doing a search yields:

470.141.03-1~deb11u1​

That's not going to fly for 3080, you best be running Debian Bookworm, with nvidia-driver 510 series.
My own gentoo with 520 works fine with 144Hz.
 
Next time I'm going AMD anyway. Since EVGA is done I don't really have a reason to stick. I've used AMD on Linux before with the same system and I had no issues besides video playback while playing a game was choppy, but it did the same thing on Windows.
I'm still of the belief that my current rig is the last I'll build. I'm sure AMD is going to follow nvidia's joke of a pricing scheme, and Intel's drivers are a joke.

If I need a new computer in 2030 then I'll just hope steam decks are still a thing.
 
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Your problem is using Debian, Debian is for stability, its the Windows XP of Linux. For 3080, you'd need to use the nvidia proprietery drivers. Doing a search yields:

470.141.03-1~deb11u1​

That's not going to fly for 3080, you best be running Debian Bookworm, with nvidia-driver 510 series.
My own gentoo with 520 works fine with 144Hz.
I will give this a shot. I appreciate the info and will update on how it turned out.
I'm still of the belief that my current rig is the last I'll build. I'm sure AMD is going to follow nvidia's joke of a pricing scheme, and Intel's drivers are a joke.

If I need a new computer in 2030 then I'll just hope steam decks are still a thing.
Yeah I've been reading that the new AMD cards are pretty expensive, but even the Nvidia ones are more then normal. Correct me if wrong.
 
Your problem is using Debian, Debian is for stability, its the Windows XP of Linux. For 3080, you'd need to use the nvidia proprietery drivers. Doing a search yields:

470.141.03-1~deb11u1​

That's not going to fly for 3080, you best be running Debian Bookworm, with nvidia-driver 510 series.
My own gentoo with 520 works fine with 144Hz.
The Nvidia "open source" proprietary drivers were recently released. Don't use that though. It's just the kernel that's open rest is proprietary and it doesn't work.
 
I'm still of the belief that my current rig is the last I'll build. I'm sure AMD is going to follow nvidia's joke of a pricing scheme, and Intel's drivers are a joke.

If I need a new computer in 2030 then I'll just hope steam decks are still a thing.
Intel's Linux support is actually top tier, i915 works very well out of the box without needing to install proprietary drivers. Drivers that you will need to rebuild EVERYTIME you update your kernel. God help you if you are using old hardware on a new kernel or vice versa like nvidia.
The Nvidia "open source" proprietary drivers were recently released. Don't use that though. It's just the kernel that's open rest is proprietary and it doesn't work.
Ironically, it doesn't work on my 3090 card, something about bad firmware. Driver loads and runs, but X doesn't want to start.
The proprietary 510/515/520 just works out of the box:
* x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
Latest version available: 520.56.06
Latest version installed: 520.56.06
Size of files: 406,409 KiB
Homepage: https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx
Description: NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver
License: NVIDIA-r2 BSD BSD-2 GPL-2 MIT ZLIB curl openssl
 
Intel's Linux support is actually top tier, i915 works very well out of the box without needing to install proprietary drivers. Drivers that you will need to rebuild EVERYTIME you update your kernel. God help you if you are using old hardware on a new kernel or vice versa like nvidia.
It's funny that NVIDIA was the first GPU manufacturer to offer Linux support and now they've really shanked it badly.

If they pulled their heads out of their asses years ago they may have been able to get on the Steam Deck, which would've been a huge win. Their insistence on the mysterious proprietary blob killed it.
 
Your problem is using Debian, Debian is for stability, its the Windows XP of Linux. For 3080, you'd need to use the nvidia proprietery drivers. Doing a search yields:

470.141.03-1~deb11u1​

That's not going to fly for 3080, you best be running Debian Bookworm, with nvidia-driver 510 series.
My own gentoo with 520 works fine with 144Hz.
Well I installed it. The newest version of the free drivers fucks up my display, but thanks to being able to logon without a window manager, I changed the repo to non-free, installed the drivers, and it was fine. Best part? I can run at 144Hz. Once again, I feel like a mega retard. Thank you so much anon.

I also realized that xfce hasn't updated since 2020, at least the latest version. My mouse is newer, so I tried cinnamon and my mouse works fine now.
 
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I see it's already been resolved but I've been using Nvidia for years with the proprietary drivers and Debian. Yes it usually requires testing or even unstable for new hardware for a while(or trying to cram in the 'official' nvidia version). Only problem I've had recently is that they apparently broke DKMS auto-signing and one of my laptops is dual boot with secure boot so on first reboot I have to go manually re-sign the modules.
 
Good news fellas. I switched from X11 to Wayland due to some weird issues with hardware accelerated applications not repainting after a while and it seems I'm mostly stable. For some reason Thunderbird and Firefox occasionally suffer a bug where opening a new tab causes a hang for ~5 seconds and sometimes my clipboard gets out of sync with GTK applications but Wayland is still preferable to the hell I was going through before.

(I'm using and AMD GPU)
 
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Good news fellas. I switched from X11 to Wayland due to some weird issues with hardware accelerated applications not repainting after a while and it seems I'm mostly stable. For some reason Thunderbird and Firefox occasionally suffer a bug where opening a new tab causes a hang for ~5 seconds and sometimes my clipboard gets out of sync with GTK applications but Wayland is still preferable to the hell I was going through before.

(I'm using and AMD GPU)
I really wish they would sort out clipboard issues on Linux. Keyboard copy/paste and right click copy/paste still don't point to the same thing (how hard is it to share a pointer between them? Come on now) and I wish it did.
 
Thinking of switching back, used to main Arch but finally got sick of not being able to do shit as easily as on windows and straight up being denied the use of certain aplications and hardware with no good easy to use alternatives imo, final straw was kernal corruption after a random update, been back on windows ever since, heres the thing tho, going to be sporting a 4090 now and I have gotten comfy with my quest 2 and virtual desktop, is there a solid desktop compliant distro that is easy to use but competent enough to support bleeding edge nvidya, vr compliant but also easy to settle back into? been out of the game too long, I'm rusty, just want something simple, but capable, and game ready with ease, and not a dogshit gui, don't want to have to deal with being plunged into a black fucking screen with a shitty little prompt staring at me and having to look up commands on my phone to get back in because the xorg server died... lotta bad experiences, was a newb and threw myself into the fire with arch first thing xD in retrospect a shit idea but I learned alot
 
Intel's Linux support is actually top tier
Not only for their GPUs, intel's support for it's hardware in Linux is generally top tier except some really weird and far-in-between specifics. AMD is actually kinda dragging feet and uncooperative on many things and while intel is a shady af company in general, whoever engineers they send off to Linuxland do genuinely good work.

I really wish they would sort out clipboard issues on Linux. Keyboard copy/paste and right click copy/paste still don't point to the same thing (how hard is it to share a pointer between them? Come on now) and I wish it did.
You basically get two clipboards in X. PRIMARY which lets you insert whatever text you have highlighted in a program with middle mouse click and the usual copy&paste secondary clipboard you know from Windows and friends. The difference is that PRIMARY actually doesn't get "buffered" in the server, the server basically just tells the two programs to communicate whatever selection data amongst each other. That's also why you can't paste with middle click if you closed the program/otherwise removed the selection.

There's also SECONDARY but it's use is kinda non-standardized so let's not get complicated. It's trivial to sync the content of PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD and there are tools for this but tbh I'd just learn to use both and integrate them into my workflow, they have their uses.
 
Next time I'm going AMD anyway. Since EVGA is done I don't really have a reason to stick. I've used AMD on Linux before with the same system and I had no issues besides video playback while playing a game was choppy, but it did the same thing on Windows.
The closest thing that AMD has to EVGA is Sapphire, XFX is pretty good as well
 
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I think I'm gonna shill something here (Conflicted on whether to post this here or in software endorsments).

Have you guys ever heard of the Enlightenment desktop environment? Me neither but recently I nuked one of my internet-active terminals due to hardware changes, decided to install a WM/desktop environment that I had never used before and holy shit this may be the lightest Desktop environment I've ever seen.

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For direct comparisson here is xfce running on the same hardware

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Bear in mind this isn't a window manager, this is a fully-fledged desktop environment with applets, desktop icons and all that useless shit that runs with 350 MB of RAM at idle. It looks ugly as sin out of the box but that can be fixed easily. Based on the fact that this updates way more often than other WMs and DEs (Last update was in september 2022), I think I've found my new default for minimal installs, the RAM comsumption here is roughly on par with ICEWM and Fluxbox, which again I find absurdly impressive.
 
AwesomeWM and IceWM are marketed as window managers but are really just a couple steps away from LXDE... In other words, desktops. They're only missing a desktop icon manager.
 
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