The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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I used fvwm for a bit and I liked it's modular approach somewhat but jesus christ.

Since I only use small screens anymore I'm using ratpoison. I actually really like just running everything fullscreen and switching back and forth via keyboard. It feels really unobtrusive and uncluttered. Maybe that makes me a smartphone pleb? I saw it first on the Amiga though, not on smartphones. If I really want to shove some windows around quickly I could use Xephyr to create a nested X server that runs another window manager in one of my screens. I never came across software that really needed that though.

There's stumpwm that's sort of a spiritual successor to ratpoison and can be scripted in common lisp but I didn't feel the need to go down that particular road. It's funny, as much as I like to go megaautist on things, lisp in particular and functional programming in general never really "clicked" for me (and it's not like I don't "get" it either). Maybe early BASIC and C gave me brain damage.
 
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Carpe Jugulum said:
I removed cinnamon from Mint and installed KDE. It was relatively easy to do as a newfag so consider it a possible learning opportunity.

Additional: I have a 3080 and it’s played ball so far.
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I'd do it, but I do enjoy the Cinnamon DE as well, just not as much as KDE. Either way I'm waiting to see if Wayland ever comes for NVIDIA. Call me a fag but none of the distros I've tried have felt as 'smooth' as Windows. From windows stuttering when I move them to videos stuttering when I open a different program.
 
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AmpleApricots said:
I used fvwm for a bit and I liked it's modular approach somewhat but jesus christ.

Since I only use small screens anymore I'm using ratpoison. I actually really like just running everything fullscreen and switching back and forth via keyboard. It feels really unobtrusive and uncluttered. Maybe that makes me a smartphone pleb? I saw it first on the Amiga though, not on smartphones. If I really want to shove some windows around quickly I could use Xephyr to create a nested X server that runs another window manager in one of my screens. I never came across software that really needed that though.

There's stumpwm that's sort of a spiritual successor to ratpoison and can be scripted in common lisp but I didn't feel the need to go down that particular road. It's funny, as much as I like to go megaautist on things, lisp in particular and functional programming in general never really "clicked" for me (and it's not like I don't "get" it either). Maybe early BASIC and C gave me brain damage.
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Fucked up my original reply attempt.

Yeah the prospect of going fullscreen-only for applications is attractive to me as well, mostly because the bulk of them anymore look kinda shit when split to either half of the screen.
 
I always find it interesting that people run stuff full screen. Maybe it's because my desktop monitors are 4k and large. Running anything full screen would be a waste of space for me. I usually have 10+ windows open with 4-6 or so actually on top(1-2 web, 1-2 terminals)

Or course the heathens these days probably also use click to focus. I like being able to mouse to a partially visible window without having it in front or having to click to type stuff in it.
 
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Lone Wandering Courier said:
Yeah I don't get the hate against KDE honestly. I've been daily driving it for a while and it pretty much just works. Some of the additional stuff though is garbage, mainly Akonadi.
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Factions of linux users want a GUI with surety and stability while others want a GUI with beautification and eye candy.

Very long ago with KDE4 and the dawn of 'Plasma' they decided to change their strategy to start incorporating bleeding edge stuff without mentioning its bleeding edge. KDE Foundation was dumping what was in the consensus of many neckbeards and server gorns, alpha level testing on their userbase to try to rapidly gain ground from frustrated Windows Vista users before 7 launched.

Such a thing is naturally enraging in the linux space, and the diffident euro twinks and androgynous whosits that spoke in riddles was KDEs only public face at that time. Its different now but still sort of the same. They still want to capture Windows users except now you get a tick box if you want to do their testing for them. Looks very nice though and I will always miss Amarok.
 
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SilentDuck said:
I was a KDE 3.x fanatic until KDE 4.x came out, still can't ever trust it to not morph into a pile of random non-working autism again. Once bitten. So I stay walled off in my own shrinking corner of the linux user space, with all the other exhausted simpletons using MATE and fantasizing that it's Gnome2 and Mark Shuttleworth has AIDS and will be gone soon enough.
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Same here. Like another poster, my first Linux was Mandrake7 / KDE2 back in the day, and it worked great. KDE broke my trust when they decided to turn into a bleeding edge tablet / everything pile of crap. They may be better now, obviously a bunch of people are happy with KDE, but I'm staying twice shy. After KDE, I moved to Gnome and it was pretty great, too, until they essentially pulled a KDE. Now I'm extremely happy with XFCE4. XFCE4's core philosophy is "keep things clean, simple and fast". If there's a QT or Gnome app I want, I still install it, but the base XFCE4 DE is basically Windows before they got stupid, but faster and cleaner and stays out of the way.
 
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pylosurf said:
Same here. Like another poster, my first Linux was Mandrake7 / KDE2 back in the day, and it worked great. KDE broke my trust when they decided to turn into a bleeding edge tablet / everything pile of crap. They may be better now, obviously a bunch of people are happy with KDE, but I'm staying twice shy. After KDE, I moved to Gnome and it was pretty great, too, until they essentially pulled a KDE. Now I'm extremely happy with XFCE4. XFCE4's core philosophy is "keep things clean, simple and fast". If there's a QT or Gnome app I want, I still install it, but the base XFCE4 DE is basically Windows before they got stupid, but faster and cleaner and stays out of the way.
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Yes, KDEs scheme then led to Gnome3 being put out unfinished and unstable too. Ubuntu then tried to make 'Unity' a thing and when it didn't happen outright force everyone onto it and into Shuttleworth's walled garden (Gnomebuntu lol).

That era had a very easy path to desktop linux becoming a thing. Instead it turned into a mass of unfinished product testing and capitalist autism that sent every potential new user running.

Its good it happened to get acceptability for XFCE/LXDE flavors and things like MATE but it did set things back a bit overall.
 
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REGENDarySumanai said:
We can all agree that Pac-Man is the best package manager, right?
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Ok, I can understand how to remove packages, you just eat the things and then eat the ghosts representing packages. But where is the install mechanism?

Also, Doom was a pretty good task manager:
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Doom as an Interface for Process Management

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SilentDuck said:
Yes, KDEs scheme then led to Gnome3 being put out unfinished and unstable too. Ubuntu then tried to make 'Unity' a thing and when it didn't happen outright force everyone onto it and into Shuttleworth's walled garden (Gnomebuntu lol).
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We have a redux of that with System76 pulling a Canonical and making their own DE for Popos called Cosmic. It's written in Null's favorite Rust. I reckon reception for it will be better than it was for Canonical's Unity.
 
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Car Won't Crank said:
We have a redux of that with System76 pulling a Canonical and making their own DE for Popos called Cosmic. It's written in Null's favorite Rust. I reckon reception for it will be better than it was for Canonical's Unity.
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PopOS was pretty slick when I tried it... suspiciously so. Multimonitor, refresh scaling all working out of the box.

Reception will be much kinder given how ambitious it is but the security issues have to be significant.
 
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Ahriman said:

Because you're a BBC fanatic.

I like Derek but I can't stand the gatekeeping attitudes that he has. I got my damn mom hooked on Linux Mint and she finds it super easy to use - I can't expect her to use i3. Moreover, I get paid to fix Linux shit so I want a Linux workstation that doesn't get in the way of my productivity, and both KDE and XFCE have been extremely comfy for those purposes.
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I mean, the way I use tiling WMs a lot of the time isn't to tile, it's just to show a single program all but fullscreen with minimal crap in the way.

You know what works like that? ChromeOS. Which is also nice and comfy and intuitive to use.
 
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