The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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I'm basically neutral on the systemd question. It's useful, it's convenient, it has downsides. It's also the most widely used Linux init system so there are far fewer resources (documentation, etc.) if you go your own way with runit, etc.
If you use sysvinit or some other human-designed system you just don't really need documentation though.

There is a small barrier to entry for newer Linux users who first start using a human init system the first time, because they have to forget anything they've learnt about systemd crap. That's a deliberate conspiracy by Poettring against Linux users, of course.
 
If you use sysvinit or some other human-designed system you just don't really need documentation though.

There is a small barrier to entry for newer Linux users who first start using a human init system the first time, because they have to forget anything they've learnt about systemd crap. That's a deliberate conspiracy by Poettring against Linux users, of course.
It's pretty amazing when you can read log files using normal tools like 'cat' 'grep' and 'less' and even copy them off and be able to read them anywhere.
 
Just should at some easily human-readable text files and you know what it's doing at every runlevel, can roll your own runlevels with ease, etc. I might be prejudiced just from it being the only one I've messed with to any real extent.
Have you found a database system that natively uses .CSV?
 
Nothing really satisfying. I don't do too much database stuff (and never did).
...I was joking. .CSV makes Microsoft Excel look like a Fortune 500 SQL database configuration.

My god, you literally were looking at text readable databases?
 
...I was joking. .CSV makes Microsoft Excel look like a Fortune 500 SQL database configuration.

My god, you literally were looking at text readable databases?
Flat file does in fact have its uses. Certainly, back in the 80s and 90s, it wasn't uncommon for small databases or statistical analytics applications to use csv or tsv for data storage. It's a well understood, easily manipulated format that can be hand-edited when necessary. The fact that a badly-written program might occasionally truncate the entire thing to a single comma is just part of the fun.
 
...I was joking. .CSV makes Microsoft Excel look like a Fortune 500 SQL database configuration.

My god, you literally were looking at text readable databases?
csv is a lot easier to cope with than fixed-length format databases in EBCDIC (plenty of antique datasets are still in this kind of shit). The file format is based on the punchcards used to tabulate the data in the first place.
 
... In the future I will try to refrain from slinging hyperboles around in the event they turn out to be true.
I actually think it's ridiculous it isn't used as a universal format so simple that anything should be able to recognize it and import it natively without muss or fuss. It's like a word processor that can't open an ASCII file. One of the few good things about Excel is it has absolutely no issues with such files.

It's just human-readable, easy to understand, requires no complicated program to look at.

You'll also see csv a lot in database leaks for this very reason. For instance, the 2019 Farms leaks.
 
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It's a small crawl, but more people are moving away from Windows into other OS' including Linux, although majority of the Linux people are from Asia and Europe.
 
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It's a small crawl, but more people are moving away from Windows into other OS' including Linux, although majority of the Linux people are from Asia and Europe.
Not only that, but FreeBSD has gotten a whole 0.01 percent as well, but I'm thinking this has more to do with the fact that Windows 12 is allegedly on its way and consumers are getting confused on what Windows version to use between 10 and 11, or just wait until 12 does make it.
 
Disappointing to see Chrome OS, an operating system developed solely to sell literal ewaste, taking over third place from Linux, though. I get that a lot of that is probably from schools switching their MacBook Airs over to cheaper machines the children can destroy without wrecking the budget, but still.

I’ve used a Chromebook exactly once, and it was the worst computing experience of my life. Every single thing about the laptop felt like garbage.
 
I’ve used a Chromebook exactly once, and it was the worst computing experience of my life. Every single thing about the laptop felt like garbage.
Even if you "jailbreak" them they're still shit. Most of them are gimped on the hardware level. Absolute trash in a way that even iShit isn't.
 
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It's a small crawl, but more people are moving away from Windows into other OS' including Linux, although majority of the Linux people are from Asia and Europe.

It's almost entirely due to Macs gaining share, probably in no small part because Apple now makes the best desktop & notebook CPUs on the market.
 
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wow i did not know this forum had a linux thread thats super cool
Disappointing to see Chrome OS, an operating system developed solely to sell literal ewaste, taking over third place from Linux, though. I get that a lot of that is probably from schools switching their MacBook Airs over to cheaper machines the children can destroy without wrecking the budget, but still.

I’ve used a Chromebook exactly once, and it was the worst computing experience of my life. Every single thing about the laptop felt like garbage.
i loved my chromebook when i used it
Right, because everyone is rushing to buy a $999 monitor stand for some reason.
i hate that argument they have that item to get people talking about it nobody buys it people are buying the M1 macs im a linux guy but sometimes people let their hate for apple rot their brain
 
I think the argument was that something horrendously overpriced can't be expected to have a large market share.

I wouldn't put too much faith in those graphs - they're usually derived from user agents. Any change might be just that a large chink bot farm changed its user agent for whatever reason. At the very least, the "unknowns" are almost certainly bots.
 
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