The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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I ended up trying NixOS after I got bored with EndeavourOS. It's pretty interesting. Rebuilding my system with a flake and git pushing the changes was my first real "I get it" moment in a long time. I tried Fedora Kinoite, and liked the convenient rollbacks, but it felt very restrictive in an attempt to Linus-proof the distro. Also fuck Red Hat. Enjoy rebooting after every switch.
 
I was meditating for a while if it is worth to create a separate thread that is focused on Wayland/X11 issue.
You might as well create a topic for all contentious topics relating to Linux, like systemd, X11 vs Wayland and other eternal slapfights instigated in the name of the ages old doctrine of divide et impera, because when everyone is fighting about the fundamental elements of the OS, no real work is being done on it, therefore it doesn't endanger corporate interests by giving consumers a good free alternative. You could probably write up a ton of examples like that.
 
I ended up trying NixOS after I got bored with EndeavourOS. It's pretty interesting. Rebuilding my system with a flake and git pushing the changes was my first real "I get it" moment in a long time.
Is NixOS worth the hype? Seems like everyone that uses it eventually becomes a fan if they can get past the initial setup part of the install
 
Is NixOS worth the hype? Seems like everyone that uses it eventually becomes a fan if they can get past the initial setup part of the install
If you don't mind tinkering with a couple nix files, then I would say so. There's a bunch of flake templates on GitHub, but eventually it starts to make sense the more you look at it. There is a bit of a steep learning curve compared to the average Linux distro, but you set it up once and make gradual changes to it. Flakes from a git repo are arguably more foolproof than the BTRFS snapshots I was using on EOS. If you use VSCodium like me, then using Alejandra and the Nix IDE plugin will properly format your nix files for you.
 
If you don't mind tinkering with a couple nix files, then I would say so. There's a bunch of flake templates on GitHub, but eventually it starts to make sense the more you look at it. There is a bit of a steep learning curve compared to the average Linux distro, but you set it up once and make gradual changes to it. Flakes from a git repo are arguably more foolproof than the BTRFS snapshots I was using on EOS. If you use VSCodium like me, then using Alejandra and the Nix IDE plugin will properly format your nix files for you.

Also be prepared to rely on everything but the nixos wiki for useful or remotely up to date information.
 
Anyone else noticed a spate of posts on Facebook asking about doing extremely basic shit on Kali Linux? I recently saw a post about installing Steam on Kali and I can't help but wonder whether it's a parody. (Installing Steam on Kali is probably not even that difficult.)
 
Anyone else noticed a spate of posts on Facebook asking about doing extremely basic shit on Kali Linux? I recently saw a post about installing Steam on Kali and I can't help but wonder whether it's a parody. (Installing Steam on Kali is probably not even that difficult.)
>Using Kali as a daily driver
Absolute nigger behaviour. You'd hope it's a shitpost but there are absolutely people who believe it's the best and only distro to daily drive. I unfortunately work with some of them
 
Anyone else noticed a spate of posts on Facebook asking about doing extremely basic shit on Kali Linux? I recently saw a post about installing Steam on Kali and I can't help but wonder whether it's a parody. (Installing Steam on Kali is probably not even that difficult.)
Can't say that I have. I thought Kali was for phones and tablets?
 
Can't say that I have. I thought Kali was for phones and tablets?
Kali as a distro is purpose built for penetration testing, security assessments/auditing and red team work. You can install it on a phone or tablet sure but it's retarded to do so
 
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Thank you for reminding me about Bedrock.

I was running into a situation with needing Plasma 5 packages, and I wanted some newer packages that weren't available via flatpak. Set it up with Debian stable then added some Arch AUR packages. Works way better than it should. Going to mess around with it more and different stratums.
Works perfectly for really wierd situations, I've been basically wanting to min-max my install lol
 
The older I get the more I yield to this logic. As a young sysadmin I lost my temper at an old salt when he told me "The code is the documentation" but the older I get the more I realize how valid that can be as a gate to filter soy devs.
That guy is wrong. Document your fucking code. If I have to expand macros by hand because some luddite wanted to be a gatekeeper I'd find out where he lives and burn his house down. In Minecraft.

If DE's are out of the question then you're in X11 window managers realm. A popular choice is a tiling window manager, which automatically tiles any window that you open, has separate workspaces and is controlled solely with keyboard shortcuts. For X11 you may try i3, since dwm is autistic, you have to manually compile it from source to use it and recompile it every time you change something, because the config is the code. You can install i3 from your package manager and it uses a config file, like any sane program should do.

Important note: without a DE, you essentially don't have things you take for granted in Windows or KDE or any other Linux DE such as a start menu, control panel, desktop icons or anything like that. You're in the hard mode now, a window manager is just that, a window manager, does the bare essentials a desktop UI should do. Perhaps if you try it for a while you'll get used to it and find it a better experience once you figure out how to adjust your workflow with the right additions.

Needless to say, if you're not going to go with a DE, your next stop is window managers, and you're in for a ride. dwm, i3, openbox, whatever you'll try, it'll be barebones and it'll be up to you to make it usable.
Can concur i3 is great. I'd never use it over a normal DE for daily usage but it makes me feel a bit like a hackerman having all the windows laid out like that with no traditional DE.
 
Anyone else noticed a spate of posts on Facebook asking about doing extremely basic shit on Kali Linux? I recently saw a post about installing Steam on Kali and I can't help but wonder whether it's a parody. (Installing Steam on Kali is probably not even that difficult.)
Pepperidge Farms remembers when Kali Linux was formerly known as Backtrack.
 
>Using Kali as a daily driver
Absolute nigger behaviour. You'd hope it's a shitpost but there are absolutely people who believe it's the best and only distro to daily drive. I unfortunately work with some of them
I gotta hear about that. What did they say?

In fairness I probably could use Kali as a daily driver but that's after years and years of Linux experience and not seeing Kali as a royal road to hacking pictuers of bob and vagene on Instagram.
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That guy is wrong. Document your fucking code. If I have to expand macros by hand because some luddite wanted to be a gatekeeper I'd find out where he lives and burn his house down. In Minecraft.
I tend to document things a bit sparsely. Not saying that's right but if I think that something is really not obvious from the get-go I will put detailed comments near that section. Nevertheless, to a certain extent I like code that explains itself well, which is why I like Python so much.
Can concur i3 is great. I'd never use it over a normal DE for daily usage but it makes me feel a bit like a hackerman having all the windows laid out like that with no traditional DE.
YEARS ago I used ratpoison, another tiling WM. These days I can't be fucked to have to make certain changes just so that I can have functioning tray icons and accordingly I use Xfce4. The amount of productivity lost intermittently switching between windows with a mouse is most likely extremely negligible and I say that as someone conscious of the gains to be had from using the keyboard almost exclusively in Vim.
 
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>Using Kali as a daily driver
Absolute nigger behaviour. You'd hope it's a shitpost but there are absolutely people who believe it's the best and only distro to daily drive. I unfortunately work with some of them
Maybe if you are a professional pentester or something. Even then you'd probably be better rolling your own. But I'd imagine a lot of users just use it because they're skiddies and it's all preinstalled.
 
I gotta hear about that. What did they say?
The basic summary is they preached it as the "most secure distro" to use, quite confidently stated every other distro was a waste of time, and "no other options hold a candle to Kali". It took all my self control to not laugh in their fucking face but I'd barely been on the team a full month and wasn't keen on getting written up for """"bullying""""" given I actually like having a job. One of these people is some drooling tard who can't configure an azure VM correctly, can't script or program if his life depended on it and to top it all off, this exceptional individual has actioned multiple major changes within the business without approval that quite literally crippled more than one high priority client environment. Yes he caused multiple major incidents, yes he doubled down on it. I'm genuinely amazed he hasn't been sacked from the amount of shit he's cocked up.

Maybe if you are a professional pentester or something.
Nah even then a professional who actually knows their shit will keep an ISO of it on a USB and boot into it on a designated laptop or use it in a VM within a secure environment where they can destroy and stand it up as much as they need. If it really needs to stay in place and USB booting isn't an option it'll be installed on a separate, isolated machine for bidness purposes, then they'll daily drive something else on their personal hardware. When I say daily drive I'm talking casual activity that has nothing to do with work, so vidya/music/shitposting etc.
 
The basic summary is they preached it as the "most secure distro" to use, quite confidently stated every other distro was a waste of time, and "no other options hold a candle to Kali".
That is some real pajeetery even if they aren't actually pajeets.

My impression is that Parrot OS is the Linux distribution most heavily focused on defensive security and if you're really paranoid you might just use OpenBSD instead.
 
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