The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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teriyakiburns said:
All this "sandboxed flatpak sealed immutable" crap for desktop applications seems to be an overly-complicated way of re-inventing a chroot jail. I suppose just making a user-friendly wrapper for chroot was too complicated.
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What do you think this is? BSD?

@Trans Fat 41g
Arch is fun as fuck
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As much as I do like Gentoo. Arch is great because it's so easy to set up a new install if you need to install a bunch of stuff to try out. Pacman might be the fastest package manager I've tried (also has a lot of flags to do a lot of things people don't even know about it they haven't read the man pages).

But yeah. I can make a new install really quick build it up from the basics provided. Try out whatever new software I want. If I somehow break things start over.

Or if I actually want to keep a working system. I can still easily install and delete whatever I want. And even though it's rolling. If something goes wrong in an update. It's super easy to just go back to the older package. And wait a few days. (Not that that's something you need to do often). To me it's like the perfect amount of being easy and fast to use, but still letting you do whatever you want.
 
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I caved and installed Pop!_OS with Cosmic Alpha 3 to try out. There are some things that are immediately much much better then GNOME or Cinnamon and some I need to test some more, but I'm already liking it and might try to run it as my main OS for a while

Alpha 4 should come out by the end of the month and have a lot more really nice improvements

Downside is they seem to only use reddit as their forums

Edit: it's neat, but the lack of a professional community to discuss bugs and new features sleeved me and it's impossible to ask about the progress of issues that bother me, so I'll stick with Linux Mint.
 
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HootersMcBoobies said:
I still have a Win 10 box that has my 3080Ti in it for gaming, but now that Proton has gotten better and there is some support on Vulkn for HDR (not sure if it works in Linux yet), I might move my good video card over to the Linux box when Win 10 support stops. Fuck Win 11.
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If this helps, I’ve gamed on Linux only for nearly 2.5 years (and I have a 3080RTX).

The only problem I’ve had was when Blizz fucked a battle.net update and it was bricked for everyone.

If the vidya you like to play works on it, just go for it.
 
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Trans Fat 41g said:
Switched to Artix with Runit and did my first successful bare metal EFISTUB install.

Feels weird not looking at GRUB on boot, but it's fast as fuck so easy adjustment.
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How'd you get that working? I'm used to either using GRUB on non soystemd installs or systemd-boot
 
HexFag said:
I just realized the reason why my setup was stuttering all the time is that I was using X11 instead of Wayland :stress:
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that's one nice thing about wayland is generally all the compositing is always going to be set up for you (well, not the flashy stuff unless you are on certain window managers or desktops, and set it up). Because the compositor is tied to the window manager. So you will just always have a compositor. Also the benefit of being so new, is its made around the idea of the current hardware we are using, and multi monitors. Which to be honest I never got the appeal that much of having 2 or more monitors. I'm a laptop user, so I guess that's why. But even if I consider a desktop at some point. I doubt I would want to get more than one monitor.

That said, if you set up a compositor on x11 you can get rid of all or nearly all (I can't speak for other peoples hardware, but for me its all) stuttering.
 
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HexFag said:
I just realized the reason why my setup was stuttering all the time is that I was using X11 instead of Wayland :stress:
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I love how this comment made 4 people assmad.

>Wayland bad, X11 good.
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On a tangent, I heard X11 had other problems Wayland didn't have like customisation limitations involving the behaviour of windows, like how a scrollbar works, you can't customise that shit w/o third party software and Wayland can do it natively apparently.
 
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Kiwi & Cow said:
On a tangent, I heard X11 had other problems Wayland didn't have like customisation limitations involving the behaviour of windows, like how a scrollbar works, you can't customise that shit w/o third party software and Wayland can do it natively apparently.
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Scrollbars are not inherent to the underlying display protocol but on the toolkit that is built on top of it though.
Edit: I am curious about the window limitations and I would love to see a more detailed explanation if you remember when you heard this from (maybe a blog, whatever).
 
Rekeita's Kidneys said:
How'd you get that working? I'm used to either using GRUB on non soystemd installs or systemd-boot
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Code: 
efibootmgr --create \
 --disk /dev/nvme0n1 --part 1 \
 --label "EFISTUB Arch" \
 --loader /vmlinuz-linux-lts \
 --unicode 'root=UUID=01a40dd8-28f0-4636-be1e-aeed60c98095 resume=UUID=2d877d5d-4ca1-4d46-a3d6-b6ee94cbbd78 rw rootflags=subvol=@ loglevel=3 quiet initrd=\initramfs-linux-lts.img'

From the Arch Wiki

There is also the option of a /boot/EFI directory you can put your necessary files into, but that method doesn't have the perks of automatic detection out of the box, so I just kept the *.img and vmlinuz-linux-* files in the /boot directory so they wouldn't require a script to copy over. Also, some firmware doesn't seem to comprehend EFISTUB so you may need to create entries with a shell depending on your hardware.
 
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Are there any more newbie friendly distros where if the os installer detects that efi stub works it'll give you the option to skip installing grub?
 
Jang Joo said:
I swear a lot of my recent helping others around me could be reduced to "why don't you literally read what's on the screen. That's all you have to do". No desire to even read what the device is telling you and to help yourself. Nada. Zilch.
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A buddy of mine regularly shares "technical support autism" screenshots. The kicker is he provides support to developers. You would be amazed how many "developers" simply do not read what it says on the screen. If you'd take a shot every time the solution is just "You can see the issue and solution in the screenshot above! [text from the screenshot goes here to help the retard]" you'd likely die of liver failure in a few days.

It's always really simple stuff that should really be sorted out by your IDE, or that you should be able to figure out, maybe a missing bracket, a file permission issue, some missing config option. I can't even think of more examples off the top of my head because when I personally encounter these issues I just solve them and forget.

Even worse, if there's a black dude, they don't usually send a screenshot. They send a photo of their monitor with the text too small to see so they can show off their expensive monitor and whatever else they have around the desk. Either that or they're too fucking stupid to take a screenshot.

I get 2nd hand anger just looking at screenshots of these people, I can't imagine how horrible it must be to have to help them out to the end. Godspeed to whoever does linux tech support. I pray you do not die of aneurysms when dealing with these retards.
 
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Betonhaus said:
Are there any more newbie friendly distros where if the os installer detects that efi stub works it'll give you the option to skip installing grub?
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Efistub isn’t newbie friendly, so I doubt that. For example if you unplug the drive your /boot is located on and power the machine up, UEFI will purge all the entries relying on that drive. If you then plug it back in, your Linux won’t be able to come back up. You’ll have to boot a live distro and run efibootmgr to add a new entry for your Efistub, and good luck remembering your kernel arguments if you had the computer handle the install for you. Something like GRUB on the other hand will recover automatically because UEFI will detect its BOOT64.EFI, automatically add an entry for it if there are no other valid entries already, and then GRUB will load your Linux using is saved configuration.

I like Efistub and it’s definitely the coolest way to start your computer, but because of flaws in most vendors’ UEFI implementations, it’s far from user friendly.
 
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