The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Nothing Is Written]

I think I heard this before... Something something give Linux another try it's much better than you remember it now?

Wayland isn't a package you retard, it's a display protocol that sits on the client-side and you know what fuck you, here's an image:



Also an extra fuck you for being complicit in the enshitification of consumer level OS'.

And yes it's alpha'd. Fuck you and display it in Microshill paint. You FUCK.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

Wayland isn't a package you retard, it's a display protocol that sits on the client-side and you know what fuck you, here's an image:

Incorrect image since not a single person uses Wayland on its own, and instead uses XWayland too, so you have both an X server and Wayland compositor running at the same time:

And yes calling Wayland a package is fine, if you want to be a faggot and defend Wayland to its grave then r/linux is the best place for you.
You act like a Redditor too.
>April 2025 join date
Ah, that's why.

 

[Nothing Is Written]

Incorrect image since not a single person uses Wayland on its own, and instead uses XWayland too, so you have both an X server and Wayland compositor running at the same time:
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And yes calling Wayland a package is fine, if you want to be a faggot and defend Wayland to its grave then r/linux is the best place for you.
You act like a Redditor too.
>April 2025 join date
Ah, that's why.

Wayland -> X is just a bridge because of app display dependencies, and it's a matter of time before it's native. You're taking a snapshot of how Wayland works currently, not where it's going (fully replacing Xorg).

 

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Wayland -> X is just a bridge because of app display dependencies, and it's a matter of time before it's native. You're taking a snapshot of how Wayland works currently, not where it's going (fully replacing Xorg).

subhuman shit cunt wayland will never be native this is sacred x11 land

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

subhuman shit cunt wayland will never be native this is sacred x11 land

I do use Wayland on my laptop since X is terrible with scaling and HiDPI. (I've tried to fix it but xrandr moon runes only made it slightly better, and not tolerable)
I use X on everything else though and I don't intend to change.

 

[Nothing Is Written]

subhuman shit cunt wayland will never be native this is sacred x11 land

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Are you really in here just to complain constantly?

Now that this was asked...

Didn't Slav Power get tard wrangled by Null over having a fit over operating systems during one of his streams?

 

[neger psykolog]

The crazy thing to me. Is how many people think steam did something special. And that's why it works well. No. It's just Linux running on supported hardware, with a desktop. Any reasonably up to date just works distro is going to give you similar results. You can do the bazzite thing like what is suggested. Or just do endeavoros, or fedora, or a fedora spin. Probably opensuse. A ton of options.

I get your point but you're wrong. Before Steam you had to deal with linux bullshit. With Steam you just install it and then click on games and they generally work. Nobody wants to spend 14 hours choosing a distribution and reading a bunch of shit.

 

[Yandex Captcha Solver]

Now that this was asked...

Didn't Slav Power get tard wrangled by Null over having a fit over operating systems during one of his streams?

Yes, he got a warning, then came back with his sperging the next day, then received a month threadban. He proceeded to sperg out and leave the site for a long while before showing back up.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

https://preservetube.com/watch?v=LuK-uertgr4

I haven't watched this reaction video, just playing with the poo.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

I get your point but you're wrong. Before Steam you had to deal with linux bullshit. With Steam you just install it and then click on games and they generally work. Nobody wants to spend 14 hours choosing a distribution and reading a bunch of shit.

Before steam. You could still just install mint or Ubuntu. And if you looked at just about anything giving recommendations for a Linux distro. They just say to install either mint or Ubuntu if you are a new user.

How are you going to spend 14 hours picking a distro? You just pick one.

 

[CryingLaughing]

Windows is that of hate. This hate then causes people to refuse to try and figure out why something is the way it is, but instead they rage at it and get annoyed by it endlessly.

I think you bring up some good points. However, while I can't speak for everyone, every time I've had to deal with some issue with Windows, it takes a fair bit of research and it ends up being some hacky workaround to a Windows "feature".

Same goes for adding features or customizing Windows. I download something, tinker with it, work to get through the safety barriers Microsoft has put in, and at the end of it all I end up wasting a day to get something that doesn't even do what I wanted it to do in the first place.

Windows support is also pretty irritating. You look anything up regarding Windows and all the threads have some retard from Microsoft copy pasting a canned response about how the issue is a feature and telling the user to try something they said they already tried.

And remember, we PAY for Windows. Yet we get bloatware, we get restrictions, we get ads, we get prompts to upgrade to W11, we get roadblocks, we get a bunch of bullshit and we get treated like we can't be trusted to manage our own computer. There's a reason why free open source software is looked at more favorably than a paid piece of software that has a history of getting worse and removing useful features over time.

 

[agent_donkey]

I just treat people like GNU/Linux

That's the correct attitude towards GNU/people.

 

[ADHD Mate]

I never got that "Windows is easier" mentality tbh. Windows was never that much ahead of Linux. Sure it had better third party support, games just ran, you could use Adobe, or other software. Which if you cared about, then yeah, Windows was the choice.

I still remember XP breaking for variety of reasons. I especially remember my grandma used to break it in a ways I didn't know was possible and then trying to use "system restore" which only broke it further. And only reinstalling it would help.
I would say Windows became truly stable around Win7, at which point Linux was also pretty usable.

I really feel like this "Windows is easier" is just midwit cope because they have learned Windows first and are too low IQ to transfer knowledge from how things worked in Windows to how they work in Linux. Basically baby duck syndrome. Microsoft just made good deal of pouring windows into any possible education facility they could to capture the market.
I think LTT linux video vs PewDiePie one illustrates it well. With LTT being peak midwit unable to move outside what he learned years ago. And pew showing that it's actually not that hard if you put some time into, idk, just fucking reading the docs.

Also anecdotally my Mother uses Linux Mint on her private laptop, and she is more annoyed with Win11 that she got with her work laptop, as Mint is more like classic windows experience than modern windows.
And the software argument for average user is kinda dead, because average user is using their OS primarily as web browser launcher.

 

[Susanna]

What I can't get over is how awful the Windows 11 start menu is. I only get two rows of software shortcuts, and I have to manually move them there. The suggestions that take up half the menu have literally never been useful. If I type a program name, say "Remote Desktop" (built-in RDP client) and hit enter, it's as likely to open Edge as the software whose name I typed, because for some reason making a Bing search is prioritised higher than a local search, and sometimes returns results quicker???
Windows 8.1 and 10 had great start menus. Windows 7 through XP had great start menus. Windows 2000 through 95 had okay start menus (but considering what they were up against, they were also great). Somehow, 11 manages to be a step back from 95.

I've used KDE, GNOME, XFCE, Hyprland, MacOS, and Windows, so I think I speak with some experience when I say that KDE has my favourite start menu. I can just hit super, type a few letters of a program and hit enter, and get that program. I can type a file name and as long as it's under home or a removable drive (or presumably any other folders I've added to the indexing) it'll return that file reasonably quickly. All my installed software is available in a handy categorised list on the side, and I can pin favourites to the big section. I can also resize it to fit as much stuff as I want. It even has a feature to stay open in case my workflow is to just launch everything I might need all at once (I know a guy who works like that, he'd love this feature considering how spastic his Win11 usage looks, with spamming the super key because new windows will randomly steal focus and close the start menu on him). And if, despite all this, I don't love the KDE start menu? Right-click, Show Alternatives, and pick another one! I can get a MacOS clone, a Windows clone for every generation since 95, or a whole bunch of custom ones.

 

[Plastic Bag]

I never got that "Windows is easier" mentality tbh. Windows was never that much ahead of Linux. Sure it had better third party support, games just ran, you could use Adobe, or other software. Which if you cared about, then yeah, Windows was the choice.

I still remember XP breaking for variety of reasons. I especially remember my grandma used to break it in a ways I didn't know was possible and then trying to use "system restore" which only broke it further. And only reinstalling it would help.
I would say Windows became truly stable around Win7, at which point Linux was also pretty usable.

I really feel like this "Windows is easier" is just midwit cope because they have learned Windows first and are too low IQ to transfer knowledge from how things worked in Windows to how they work in Linux. Basically baby duck syndrome. Microsoft just made good deal of pouring windows into any possible education facility they could to capture the market.
I think LTT linux video vs PewDiePie one illustrates it well. With LTT being peak midwit unable to move outside what he learned years ago. And pew showing that it's actually not that hard if you put some time into, idk, just fucking reading the docs.

Also anecdotally my Mother uses Linux Mint on her private laptop, and she is more annoyed with Win11 that she got with her work laptop, as Mint is more like classic windows experience than modern windows.
And the software argument for average user is kinda dead, because average user is using their OS primarily as web browser launcher.

Exactly, it's a huge myth that Windows is better for users that "can't use computers"
It might have been the case with the Windows 7 era of Linux with Windows 7 being better for a lot of people, even if it did break now and then, but it's got to the point where over the last decade, it's lost it's way. The main computing issue I've heard from older people is laptops running out of memory (Windows is bloated to fuck) and they never fucking use most of this bullshit. That's why goy ChromeOS type operating systems will get popular, a lot of people mainly use their browser and nothing else and would've tolerated Windows if they didn't take advantage of them.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Incorrect image since not a single person uses Wayland on its own, and instead uses XWayland too, so you have both an X server and Wayland compositor running at the same time:
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And yes calling Wayland a package is fine, if you want to be a faggot and defend Wayland to its grave then r/linux is the best place for you.
You act like a Redditor too.
>April 2025 join date
Ah, that's why.

When I do run Wayland I actually do just keep it Wayland only. It's pretty easy these days. The only thing extra I have to do is add a flag behind electron/chromium based stuff to use the native display protocol it detects. That and just use the Wayland native versions of the tools I use.

@Bazinga! What's wrong with Wayland?

It's different than x11. Is pretty much what it comes down to, and people hate change. Also people like defending the thing they like.

 

[Battlefield42]

it's even worse than that since even simple changes can have wide fucking impact that doesn't make sense. linux tells you when it needs a package because that's how it's build. windows missing something? good luck with that, first figuring out that it does, and then what it is.

my favorite windows feature is still updates breaking when you move user folders. because who wouldn't want to separate user and system files... (and don't get me started on the recent development of shit getting installed in your user folder instead of program files).

Shit getting installed in appdata makes me mad. Even if you uninstall, the files stay in there.

 

[DavidS877]

Shit getting installed in appdata makes me mad. Even if you uninstall, the files stay in there.

Linux programs are still shit at managing caches, there's a ~/.cache directory, if they could just fucking use it consistently so I can exclude it from backups I would be at least 0.1% happier.

 

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fuckin dog cunt whats old is right if it runs and drives its good to go