The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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A pig by Jove! said:
On one hand I feel like I'm being petty and a couple of terminally online trannies shouldn't affect me, but on the other hand the sheer amount of drama I keep reading about and the numerous contributors quitting the project or getting bullied off it really just makes me want to not engage with it at all. Shit sucks man :(
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Yeah, I have realized this too as I started writing patches for stuff, only to look up what type of maintainer culture there is and NOPE'd the fuck out of contributing anything. I have had too many bad experiences trying to contribute small QoL stuff w/ maintainers acting like I need to view it like petitioning Mount Olympus or some shit. - But enough people giving up is what gives them the power to do this, though. It's why we need to look out for projects like that X12 guy who just straight up says if you are a culture warrior faggot you will be booted from the project. We are not celebrating men sucking dicks, we are selling burgers. Get the fuck out of here with that rainbow puke or w/e other autistic political slapfight. Have those in your own time. The goal should be to find projects like that and then only contribute to those.

Yeah it stinks because if you are into open source you want to work on a lot of things, but give trannies an inch and they will dilate all over the entire world. Remember how they all freaked the fuck out when PewDiePie made his Linux video? It was all about how it might open up the door to undesirables in Linux. In other words, they are petrified that normal people are going to show up in their little safe space because they do not have the numbers nor the skills to maintain their little fiefdoms if Linux moves past being a niche. If enough people move into Linux and these people continue to act like this there will be way more forks and uproar so let's hope that continues.
 
I want to contribute sometimes, but Github has annoying spam filters. Its a nuisance to make a new account. I've had a github account before, but I deleted it due to inactivity. I'd tried to contribute some cool packages to Void once, one maintainer even liked them, but the trannies have specific packaging requirements so they dropped it. Its a moot point now since I can just run it under WINE without compiling it.

There is another distro called Chimera Linux, that's an interesting mesh of BSD/NIX but the faggots running it are the most insufferable people ever.
 
Running my custom-built kernel now, never built a kernel before. It took me like 8 hours of rebuilding but I think I now got it, configured everything starting from x86_64 ARCH defconfig. It boots up faster and feels more responsive than my distro's generic kernel, so it's a win I guess.
 
On the second attempt, I've finally got a VM with GPU-passthrough working. The first attempt ended with me getting weird memory errors that I was unable to find any answers to. So I decide to give up and just install the regular Nvidia drivers, to at least use it for some AI stuff. However, those drivers also didn't work and gave similar memory errors. Googling this error gave me the solution. Apparently my second PCIe-slot is fucky and requires the kernel parameter "pci=realloc" in order for the GPU in that slot to work properly. Now both the proprietary Nvidia drivers and the VFIO drivers work perfectly. Could have saved me a weekend of work but at least it's over now. Goodbye bare metal Windows, your only purpose now is Fortnite.
 
I think I have cancer. For the last ~month/a half I can't stop thinking about NVMe. I've been using my W541 forever and it feels great, but for some reason something triggered my tism and now I keep thinking about upgrading to a machine that has both Libreboot and NVMe. Worst part is I can't even articulate why I want to do it. I think the consumerism brainrot is getting to me.
 
Is there a reason to use Ubuntu server over Debian and vice versa for a home server? Have used both in personal and professional contexts but apart from package release timing is there an actual difference? Constantly see people preferring one over the other with no reasonable articulation of why outside of the aforementioned.
 
BussyBusta said:
Is there a reason to use Ubuntu server over Debian and vice versa for a home server? Have used both in personal and professional contexts but apart from package release timing is there an actual difference? Constantly see people preferring one over the other with no reasonable articulation of why outside of the aforementioned.
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Debian server didn't support my Intel Arc A310 for video decoding and Ubuntu did, I would've had to mess with unstable kernels to get it to work in Debian.

Debian is probably more stable if you ensure all your hardware is compatible
 
BussyBusta said:
Constantly see people preferring one over the other with no reasonable articulation of why outside of the aforementioned.
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Debian packages have a bigger install base (eg. on ARM, Armbian and Raspbian both use unaltered Debian packages; this is just one such case that I know best) and their production process does not involve profit or corporate influence in the same way Ubuntu does.

Betonhaus said:
I would've had to mess with unstable kernels
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Mint-brain bit you here, most like. Debian-backports tracks the latest LTS kernels. You don't need to touch unstable for this unless you need the latest and greatest.

And building your own kernel, especially if you need one, couldn't be more trivial in Debian and its progeny. "make deb-pkg" in the kernel git. cp /boot/config to .config and "make oldconfig" first so it matches your distro config. Then just "dpkg -i *.deb" (probably want to be more fussy about it than that, I do recall some unnecessary packages being built, but whatever).
 
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Two big stories in FOSS just dropped. Heads up to any systemd hating GNOME users, after gutting X11 the GNOME team has once again decided what's best for you. This time it's how you shouldn't actually want to use anything other than systemd on your own computer:

Introducing stronger dependencies on systemd​

GNOME is about to gain a few strong dependencies on systemd, and this will make running GNOME harder in environments that don’t have systemd available. [...] The hacks in GDM are gone, and the login screen’s session is managed by systemd. This means that the builtin service manager will now be completely unused and untested. Moreover: we’d like to implement a session save/restore feature, but the builtin service manager interferes with that. For this reason, the code is being removed.
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And this is coming from someone who is fine with systemd. I use a lot of stuff from it which all varies in quality. It hasn't led me astray yet, so I am just waiting for the time it really does to finally kick it to the curb. But a DE deciding to basically marry itself to any init* is so fucking dumb. And it seems to be mostly because of laziness too. Were the anti-systemd conspiratards right all along?

According to this Android fork they have recieved information suggesting that Google might be closing up Android:
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This could be a schizopost, tbf. I mean didn't the maintainer of this project have some spat with Louis Rossman where he acted like a complete paranoid scizhophrenic? He sounded like a lolcow obsessing about his haders behind every corner. - So take it with a grain of salt and all that, if true it's massive, though.
 
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Akerman said:
But a DE deciding to basically marry itself to any runit is so fucking dumb. And it seems to be mostly because of laziness too. Were the anti-systemd conspiratards right all along?
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IBM/Redhat wants to be the only game in town when it comes to providing a usable Linux desktop environment. That's the streamlined, homogeneous experience bullshit people like hyping up. The only way to force that in an ecosystem that values being able to pick and choose your own parts is to remove the choice entirely. It's for your own good, user, the magnanimous clique of tranny devs declared it to be so.

Considering RH is also a US government contractor, there's a non-zero chance that some thread participants' tax dollars are funding the rot and subversion of their computer's OS.
 
Retarded Weeb said:
LibreOffice basically does everything MS Office can and I think it comes on a lot of a distros.
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LibreOffice is great, but Calc has slightly different formulas to Excel and the UI is just different enough to be a bit annoying if you're used to Microsoft Office. OnlyOffice is close enough in UI that I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't sued over it, and I think the way their spreadsheet program works is closer to 1:1 with Excel.

They're both solid, but I think OnlyOffice would be less aggravating for a newbie.
 
Akerman said:
According to this Android fork they have recieved information suggesting that Google might be closing up Android:
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There are discussions on both Reddit and Hacker News about these claims, and the conclusion in both cases is that they are not true. Google does seem to be closing some of their mobile code, but not the Android operating system.

Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44254540
Reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight/comments/1l8rhon/aosp_project_is_coming_to_an_end/

Here is an official denial:
We're seeing some speculation that AOSP is being discontinued. To be clear, AOSP is NOT going away. AOSP was built on the foundation of being an open platform for device implementations, SoC vendors, and instruction set architectures.

AOSP needs a reference target that is flexible, configurable, and affordable – independent of any particular hardware, including those from Google. For years, developers have been building Cuttlefish (available on GitHub as the reference device for AOSP) and GSI targets from source. We continue to make those available for testing and development purposes.
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Akerman said:
https://blogs.gnome.org/adrianvovk/2025/06/10/gnome-systemd-dependencies/
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https://archive.is/ThW3N

Akerman said:
According to this Android fork they have recieved information suggesting that Google might be closing up Android:
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They have a thread about this on their Mastodon instance: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114670995130379882 (archive)
While the individual pieces are mostly sound, the way it's written reads like a schizopost. They even mention wanting to jump from Pixels (the only hardware they support) to a crowdfunded phone that will adhere to their security spec.
 
Is python really the defacto Unix system administration language now? The gold standard? I want a 'smart' file system automation script going on. It seems like an excuse to use common lisp + slime, but that might be autism.
 
HalHalliday said:
Couldn't tell you, haven't use Linux properly since 2012. And it's my first time using FreeBSD.
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Exactly. That was my whole point. That Linux is a lot more usable overall than it was in 2012. Things tend to just work. Most distros are easier to install. There is less troubleshooting that goes into it. There is a big ecosystem built up around it.

And at least for me. I went from being used to that. To freebsd. And it was really noticable how much I was missing by going to it from Linux.


Unrelated. I just wanted to share this. A lot of good information in this. Goes over why Linux ended up going with the monolithic kernel model (much better performance), some things about how rust is being implemented. How they use c. And a lot of other stuff.
 
Friedrich Hayek's Ghost said:
LibreOffice is great, but Calc has slightly different formulas to Excel and the UI is just different enough to be a bit annoying if you're used to Microsoft Office. OnlyOffice is close enough in UI that I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't sued over it, and I think the way their spreadsheet program works is closer to 1:1 with Excel.
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The biggest issue with LibreOffice Calc is that its numerical solver/goal-seek is substantially inferior to the one in Excel. It's not hard to come up with a sheet that works in Excel but gives "no solution found" in Calc if you're numerically "reversing" common formulas.
I still use Calc for most spreadsheeting, but I do have to keep a copy of Excel lying around for those cases where you need a better solver.
 
GNU Abyss said:
Considering RH is also a US government contractor, there's a non-zero chance that some thread participants' tax dollars are funding the rot and subversion of their computer's OS.
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Gnome marrying to Wayland literally 3 days after the X incident is no coincidence, neither is how hard they have been trying to censor my boy Enrico. I truly despise systemd and all of its proponents. Red Hat is the single most niggerlicious entity in the computing world, because unlike Microsoft or Apple, who are honest about their data harvesting and complete disregard for user freedom, Red Hat is this subversive cancer that creeps into every single facet of Linux, trying to get its tumors everywhere and in everything. It isn't enough to use a "systemd free" distro anymore, you actively have to hunt down and blacklist this shit's dependencies. https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/ seems to be keeping a good tally of which OSes really do abstain from using any sysd niggerware, for those going distro shopping.
 
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