The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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One of the worst pride logos I have ever seen, good work KDE team.
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What if I have made my KDE look and behave just like Windows 2000? :)

Not Windows 2000, but I did find something good for this for Vista and Windows 7

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Not Windows 2000, but I did find something good for this for Vista and Windows 7
Those are nice themes, but Aero isn't really my thing and I think its really overrated, especially as Zoomers are beginning to praise it online, for some reason only recently (not sure why).
I'm currently using the "Reactionary Plus" theme: https://store.kde.org/p/2138468
Its not really Windows Classic by default but with a Windows Classic colour theme and Windows 2000 icon set, it looks really good:
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My taskbar is set up just like Windows 2000 too with a Quick Launch bar like setup, I do honestly prefer it to the way introduced in Windows 7.
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Not perfect, but I am happy enough with it. I know Chicago95 is more complete but I want to stay on KDE for now.
It really does feel a lot like an older Windows version to use, and I love that. But also has some modern QoL benefits so its not completely stuck in 2000, I see that as the best of both worlds.

On another note, I played around with an old Linux distro today (Slackware 12.2) with KDE 3, and it really is amazing to use. Functional and lightweight.
There is a fork of it that is still made today, Trinity DE. https://www.trinitydesktop.org/
Haven't personally tried it but it seems good. Might give it a go at some point.
 
Red hat is deep in the X11 hating train and would likely be the last to support it, going kicking and screaming. Some BSD distros and such may be the first to support it, and if it's sufficiently stable then maybe more neutral distros (can't think of any off the top of my head). If it demonstrates itself as being superior then SteamOS may adopt it as they have full control of their hardware and experience, followed by Linux Mint as they are X11 by default and it would be trivial to ensure Cinnamon maintains support.

Probably the biggest problem would be if desktop environments and apps refuse to support it, Gnome would be actively hostile to X12 but KDE might be on the fence.
Do you think Red Hat and the others would be in favor of it if it was made under the MIT license?
 
GNOME 3 was in 2011, Windows 8 was in 2012. There must've been a paradigm shift there when everyone started chugging retard juice.
India started pumping out software graduates en masse about 15 years earlier and major companies began outsourcing to Indian shitshops around the same time. It took the jeets that long to work their way up to positions where they could actively shit over entire codebases.
There is a fork of it that is still made today, Trinity DE. https://www.trinitydesktop.org/
Trinity is kino. Once I'm done with my current contract and can afford to tinker for a bit, I'm going to try it out again.
 
Trinity is kino. Once I'm done with my current contract and can afford to tinker for a bit, I'm going to try it out again.
Oh shit, Trinity is actually super nostalgic to me. You just reminded me how I really need to daily drive it one of these days. - All my school computers ran KDE 3.x and they all looked exactly like this:
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I still have faint memories of that old dragon render, and somehow the legendary admin there convinced faculty to let him put games like SuperTux on every computer too IIRC, so once we were done with whatever we needed to learn in GIMP they let us play all the classic FOSS Linux games. I really need to shake the hand of whoever was responsible for all of this at my public school one of these days, introduced me to a lot of FOSS tools that I probably would have a shit time trying to learn to use now that Adobe has been jeeted and also that Linux was an option.
 
(Slackware 12.2)
Slackware is an absolute joy to to use and a close #2 to Gentoo. I have it running on an X230. Zero complaints, really good distro all around. In other news, FreeBSD is getting its 15.0 release later this year. Barring the cuck license and all that, how feasible do you guys think daily driving it would be? Definitely been hearing a lot more good things about it than bad so I'm strongly considering giving it a spin.
 
These are like 99.9% faithful to how Vista/7 actually used to look like, it's impressive.
Its not really Windows Classic by default but with a Windows Classic colour theme and Windows 2000 icon set, it looks really good:
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My taskbar is set up just like Windows 2000 too with a Quick Launch bar like setup, I do honestly prefer it to the way introduced in Windows 7.
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This shit I hate with a passion. Looks nothing like Win2k. The scaling is all off, the fonts are all off, everything is mismatched, a lot of elements aren't even themed and I'd rather use whatever stock theme the DE has instead of trying to pull off shit like this.

Though then again, this is also an issue of theming current day Windows. So much has changed in styling throughout the years, and so many programs just won't support whichever theming you're doing, or vice versa, that inevitably it will look mismatched and you'll just prefer to use some modern theme that won't clash as much. Ideally you'll use a dark theme to make everything dark as surprise surprise, we have also figured out that making every piece of the UI light colored isn't exactly the best when the screen that's displaying it operates on blasting light in your eyes from millions of tiny LED's all the time, so the dimmer they glow the better.
 
Slackware is an absolute joy to to use and a close #2 to Gentoo. I have it running on an X230. Zero complaints, really good distro all around. In other news, FreeBSD is getting its 15.0 release later this year. Barring the cuck license and all that, how feasible do you guys think daily driving it would be? Definitely been hearing a lot more good things about it than bad so I'm strongly considering giving it a spin.

There's talks of improving laptop and wifi support for FreeBSD, one of the biggest pain points thus far.
 
Kdenlive can do video editing, but it's not great, Davinci Resolve is on Linux, but it doesn't work on every system.
Resolve can't do H264 on Linux, even if you use the paid version. Resolve can't do H265 on Windows without buying a $10 codec from the Windows store. Kdenlive can do both out of the box, or offer to auto-transcode clips as needed. It's come a long way. With some of the recent UI changes to Resolve, I actually prefer Kdenlive now. It doesn't crash constantly and corrupt your saves anymore. I recently worked on two hours of footage with it varying from 4k to 1024x768 and it handled it all really well.

Libreoffice and Onlyoffice (not Openoffice) are basically drop-in replacements for Office365
This is another tool that's come so far. Anyone remember the StarOffice days, when the whole project was run by Sun? A lot of the devs left due to Sun's involvement, created Libreoffice, and Sun gave over OpenOffice to Apache. Compared to the 2000s, LibreOffice is an amazingly good office suite replacement.

I was under the impression MS Office can run via the browser?
Yep and it works fairly well too. I once had my laptop die and someone lent me a replacement ancient Centrino laptop that was dogshit slow. I had a talk to give the next week and didn't want to reformat/setup the laptop, so I ended up doing all of it in the web version of Powerpoint. That was ~10 years ago and even back then, it worked pretty well.
 
how feasible do you guys think daily driving it would be?
I've been using FreeBSD for about 2 weeks as a test on my second desktop and I'm having a great time. Everything works. And it's far better than the last time I used Linux, back in 2012. The only issue so far is that if you want to use Proton and not just Wine, it gets a bit complicated, 'cause you need to use Linuxulator. Other than that, it's been great.
 
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Slackware is an absolute joy to to use and a close #2 to Gentoo. I have it running on an X230. Zero complaints, really good distro all around. In other news, FreeBSD is getting its 15.0 release later this year. Barring the cuck license and all that, how feasible do you guys think daily driving it would be? Definitely been hearing a lot more good things about it than bad so I'm strongly considering giving it a spin.
A lot less feasible than Linux.

At least for me. Trying to use it, was like what people that don't use Linux, say running Linux is like.

A lot of things didn't work. A lot of things needed troubleshooting. In general it didn't feel very cohesive (yeah they have their own userland, but most people aren't just using the kernel and command line). You will have to rely on ports from Linux applications. And a lot of the time, they only do the bare minimum to get the program working. There are going to be things that don't work on freebsd still.

Hardware support is worse, software support is worse.

If you don't have a good reason to run freebsd. I suggest not doing it. The juice definitely isn't worth the squeeze.

Oh also with all of that said. The documentation is also worse than Linux. Distros like Gentoo, and arch. (Contrary to what some people might say). So you won't be able to as easily fix your problems when you do run into them. Which is much more often than any Linux distro.

They have the Linux compatibility layer, that really didn't work well when I used it at least. At least not with the programs they offer out of their repos that use with it.

I can go on for a while. The point is. You will only be losing things by going to freebsd, not gaining anything. Unless you run servers that benefit from freebsds security features, jails, and zfs. It doesn't make sense to run it.
 
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We're in perfect configuration for a "year of the desktop BSD" any time now. Linux is becoming a playground for corporate horseshit.
Regardless of the plausibility of FreeBSD being suddenly and widely adopted in the Desktop space and its viability for many, I will always prefer FreeBSD's development and deployment over Linux. It delivers a kernel, device drivers, the userland utilities, and documentation, as opposed to Linux only delivering a kernel and drivers. It's genuinely a better method of development IMO, as FreeBSD delivers a complete operating system on one stable base that can easily be developed & packaged for and so effectively reduces fragmentation issues, and to top it all off it's all done with simple instructions on how to download & install for new users.

But most importantly, Beastie is also a way better mascot:
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One of the worst pride logos I have ever seen, good work KDE team.
Not even their worst one Nicco made.

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He has to be one of the worse spokesmen for KDE, he also ruined the panel by making it float by default (which could have been cool if it stayed floating and didn't awkwardly unfloat and bloat to twice the size when a window is maximized.

At the very least he doesn't start randomly throwing tantrums at people like the trannies at Redhat, but doing shit like this really makes me not like you.

I was going to rebut but then i remembered Nicco works on KDEs UX and hes trying discredit the Asahi Lina is Hector Martin information because it came from here.


Also just recently reposted this. Why are they all like this?
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Anyways it always made me laugh how wayland was so poorly managed. 17 years later and there are still features you would expect to be a priority since wayland breaks them (Global hotkeys is the big one.) that are still missing. A normal user should not have to figure out how to run OBS in xwayland in order to get usable global hotkeys. Hopefully XLibre is actually good.
 
The kernel might have. After reading this thread, I'm not so sure about the rest.
Btw Wayland will turn 17 this year. Also, there are 21 years between X1 and X11R7.
You know freebsd just uses things ported over from Linux for the most part? Uses desktops, and applications built around Linux, basically except the kernel itself, the the things tied into it, and the userland.

Freebsd just feels like you took Linux, and went back 10 years + in progress and usability.

Also a weird thing to bring up x11 and Wayland. Freebsd is also using x11, and Wayland.
 
Ubuntu dropping GNOME's X11 session

"The Ubuntu team is following Fedora's example and dropping GNOME's X11 session in the distribution's next version. The announcement for the change reads, in part: "The login screen (powered by GDM) will no longer offer the Ubuntu on Xorg option. All sessions based on GNOME Shell and Mutter are now Wayland-only and users who rely on X11-specific behaviors will not be able to use the GNOME desktop environment on Xorg. We understand that some users still depend on Xorg's implementation of X11; for example, in remote desktop setups, or highly specialized workflows. If you require Xorg specifically, you can install and use a non-GNOME desktop environment. Xorg itself is not going away, only GNOME's support for Xorg.""

I haven't been here in a bit, I've probably said this before, but it's impressive how the decisions coming from the Red Hat / Ubuntu / GNOME camps are consistently retarded.

I switched to Linux as my daily driver a little more then 6 months ago; is GNOME just a hazing ritual for new users? I switched to Plasma and suddenly every fucking annoying bug disappeared (pulseaudio stopped crackling, chromium programs stopped breaking so hard I would have to restart or my system would freeze, some insane bullshit bug where WoW in Lutris would freeze for like a 10th of a second when I hit one of the Numpad bindings on my retardmmo mouse, shit still works when I wake up the system from sleep, etc etc)

It's not perfect or anything but the only thing I miss is the GNOME clipping tool not gargling dog cocks like Spectacle does but I can probably fix that
I don't know if you meant it but great post. GNOME is an exercise in total fucking stupidity. The GNOME devs always choose the worst outcome in every decision they make. They're either evil and/or stupid, but they have to be at least one.
I could see GNOME making sense as a tablet DE but on the desktop it's indefensible.
 
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Ubuntu dropping GNOME's X11 session

"The Ubuntu team is following Fedora's example and dropping GNOME's X11 session in the distribution's next version. The announcement for the change reads, in part: "The login screen (powered by GDM) will no longer offer the Ubuntu on Xorg option. All sessions based on GNOME Shell and Mutter are now Wayland-only and users who rely on X11-specific behaviors will not be able to use the GNOME desktop environment on Xorg. We understand that some users still depend on Xorg's implementation of X11; for example, in remote desktop setups, or highly specialized workflows. If you require Xorg specifically, you can install and use a non-GNOME desktop environment. Xorg itself is not going away, only GNOME's support for Xorg.""

I haven't been here in a bit, I've probably said this before, but it's impressive how the decisions coming from the Red Hat / Ubuntu / GNOME camps are consistently retarded.
That won't affect Cinnamon, right?
 
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