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Get Pop image for Nvidia, that way you won't have any trouble with builtin kernel drivers shitting themselves during installation process.
Pop, Mint and Zorin are pretty much same shit, all based on Ubuntu.
As for gayming, performance difference should be minuscule, unless you want to dive into the rabbit hole of custom kernels, don't, there's no point for beginner

Cranjis McBasketball said:
. Zorin is another name I've seen thrown around. I kinda like how it looks and how it come with libreoffice right out of the box. But some people say it's no good for gaming.
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Most distros with live image ship libreoffice as part of standard software package, it would be weird if they didn't.

As for setup, it's same as with WIndows, on bare drive it's a matter of clicking Next until you are booted into your OS.
You should disable Secureboot in BIOS before installing, you can enable if afterwards.

If you go with Mint and your Nvidia GPU is recent then "nomodeset" kernel parameter for the installation media is your friend, that skips shitty unreliable reverse-engineered nvidia drivers that live in kernel, but don't worry, if you have internet working during installation process then you should have proper drivers from Nvidia on your fresh system. This applies to any distro that doesn't advertise having proprietary driver on live media.
 
Cranjis McBasketball said:
I already use terminal for yt-dlp. I don't like using terminal, but if I have to it's not too hard to figure out.

I already have a Nvidia gpu that I'm going to use. I might upgrade to a different one eventually but that's what I have right now and I can't really afford an upgrade at the moment.

Also should I just use Mint instead? A lot of people recommend it but when it comes to gaming Pop usually tops the list. If it's easier to use and set up I'll probably just go for that. Zorin is another name I've seen thrown around. I kinda like how it looks and how it come with libreoffice right out of the box. But some people say it's no good for gaming.
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I would say go with Mint just because it's VERY beginner friendly. Can't really speak for the Nvidia side but it should reasonably work. Apparently it will shit itself if you try to install another desktop environment but Cinnamon is enough like Windows XP/7 where you probably won't even bother looking to install anything else.
 
YoRHa No. 2 Type B said:
He did a podcast with Brodie Robertson. You can hear the instant he opens his mouth (skip to 0:36 if you hate Brodie's voice) that he is a troon, or at best a they/them...
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Troon.

Born Sam Dodrill, then Christine Dodrill, then "Xi Iaso", presumably when whatever razor thin tether they still had on reality finally snapped.
 
Betonhaus said:
Anyone familiar with esterOS? They did a big thing on tiktok about being pretty now and it wasn't really clear on the details
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The live image is just Arch Linux with Gnome slapped on top. The iso is here. Developer's twitter is here. He mostly posts about mobile phones and people accuse him of ripping off something called Cuttlefish CutefishOS. Seems to be a one man project.
 
Cranjis McBasketball said:
Is jumping headfirst into Linux a bad idea?
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Not as long as you go into it knowing it won't be Windows or Mac.
Cranjis McBasketball said:
I've never used it before but I'm building a new pc and I'd just rather not deal with Windows 11. If I should make the switch which distro is the best for beginners? I'd need something I can do gaming on. I've heard good things about Pop!_OS, would you guys recommend it?
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Pop!_OS is fine but I personally don't like the desktop and "feel." I normally recommend Mint Cinnamon to people moving from Windows to Linux because they've deliberately set it up so it's an easier switch. Gaming in general is going to be fine either way in my opinion with the usual exceptions of games that don't work readily on Linux.

If you can, try them each in a virtual machine or on a spare computer. Try other distros and find what you like to narrow your choices down.
 
The Saltening said:
how long should the sync command take?

took a while but its all good
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You mentioned it was 3 iso's. Thats a good bit of data that had to be written to the usb. Especially if it's not a 3.0 usb port, and usb drive. The sync is basically just making sure all the data is flushed out of memory and written to the disk. So in those circumstances it can take a while. I know when I've written decent sized backups to usb's getting into the gigabyte range. It can definitely start to take a while. Especially if it's not a fast usb, and you don't have things optimized for writing the data as efficiently as possible to the disk.

Cranjis McBasketball said:
I already use terminal for yt-dlp. I don't like using terminal, but if I have to it's not too hard to figure out.

I already have a Nvidia gpu that I'm going to use. I might upgrade to a different one eventually but that's what I have right now and I can't really afford an upgrade at the moment.

Also should I just use Mint instead? A lot of people recommend it but when it comes to gaming Pop usually tops the list. If it's easier to use and set up I'll probably just go for that. Zorin is another name I've seen thrown around. I kinda like how it looks and how it come with libreoffice right out of the box. But some people say it's no good for gaming.
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Another +1 for Mint. Especially over PopOS right now. I'm not following too closely, but if they've moved to cosmic, a new user really shouldn't be using it. Not because it's inherently hard to use. It's just alpha, and probably still has major issues. Even without that. Mint really is the place I feel like almost all completely new to linux people should start. You can generally google your issues and find something to deal with it. If you do happen to run into problems. It's rock solid, and cinnamon is a pretty nice desktop. That's going to give a familiar enough feel to windows.

You really won't need to use the terminal, for much if not at all in mint. But I do recommend actually learning about it. Even if you don't have to use it. Once you are comfortable, and familiar with the command line. It's hard to go back to doing a lot of things in the GUI. It's just so much faster, flexible, and more powerful. In comparison A lot of things you used to do with a graphical program someone made, start to feel tedious when you can't just type one line, and be done with it. At least when you are comfortable with it.

Some general advice. If you are comfortable looking at documentation. The arch wiki is a really good resource for learning about just about any part of your system. Even if you are using an ubuntu/debian based distro like mint. Most of the information is still going to apply. Just not the stuff about pacman, the package manager for arch. You will need to look at something debian specific for that. But if you are willing to read the documentation there. You can almost always get things worked out without even needing to ask someone. Though in the beginning knowing where to start looking is the hard part.
 
Frederica Bernkastel said:
When the hero finally meets the final boss.
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Had to be done.
 
Update on Wayland and V-Sync. With an AMD GPU on KDE Plasma I can reliably get all my games to screen tear.
However, the automatic detection for fullscreen windows that allows tearing does not seem to work for native Linux games, so I have to make a global window rule to allow tearing. Not the end of the world, and Wayland generally feels a lot smoother than X11, especially when alt-tabbing out of fullscreen games.


Except allow tearing is broken on the latest kernel and doesn't work at all, so I have to use LTS :story:
 
I got curious, so I've been trying out COSMIC for the last few days. Definitely not a finished product, but I like well enough. It does seem to really, really hate fractional scaling. Everything looks good, but it likes to throw dropdowns and context menus way low and to the right. It did actually fix an issue I was having on Plasma in Doorkickers 2 where any time mouse acceleration kicked in, it would fling the paths for the units way off in random directions. I'm sure I'll eventually end back up on Plasma, but it works pretty well for an alpha. I think a Mac user would probably feel more dissonance, since, on first glance, it looks very similar to how they expect a computer to look, but actually works quite differently.
 
Cranjis McBasketball said:
Is jumping headfirst into Linux a bad idea? I've never used it before but I'm building a new pc and I'd just rather not deal with Windows 11. If I should make the switch which distro is the best for beginners? I'd need something I can do gaming on. I've heard good things about Pop!_OS, would you guys recommend it?
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Jumping in head first is great, as long as you're prepared for the possibility that you might have to fuck with things a little bit, and accept that you have the ability to fuck up. That said, my experience has honestly been that most modern Linux distros have a better out of the box just werks experience than modern windows. I unironically think we've gotten to the point where its easier to have your boomer dad running Linux than windows.

Its also important to remember that if you're messing around in the terminal, and screw something up, its generally pretty hard to break something in a way that you can't fix, given a little time and ingenuity. At the same time, I've definitely been guilty of saying "fuck it, it'll be faster just to reinstall" a few times.

I can't really speak to pop!_os in particular, but as a general rule of thumb, especially as a beginner, you're usually going to be better off sticking to really mainstream distros, and avoiding bespoke forks. Even ones that specifically target Linux beginners. They're typically made by much smaller dev teams, sometimes even a single dev, so its more common to have outdated software, or have bugs slip through the cracks. They tend to be much more poorly documented. And they also tend to work somewhat differently from more mainstream distros, so documentation from, say, arch for example, might not be as applicable in certain areas

Not to say bespoke distros are shit, I just generally think they make more sense for hobbyists, who are really fired up about the cool and innovative way it handles x y and z.

In terms of what distro you should use, aside from something mainstream... As a beginner, I think the most important thing is figuring out what desktop environments you like, and looking at what distros either ship with them, or support them well enough that you can switch cleanly without a headache. There's a ton of other differences beyond that, but IMO, you're better off getting a broad idea of how Linux works, before autistically obsessing about exactly what differences there are under the hood. Once you've gotten your feet wet, you can feel free to develop incredibly strong opinions about what init system, or package manager or display server is best, and spend hours everyday posting about how anyone who doesn't agree with you on every count is a retard, and probably a tranny to boot.
 
Cranjis McBasketball said:
Is jumping headfirst into Linux a bad idea? I've never used it before but I'm building a new pc and I'd just rather not deal with Windows 11. If I should make the switch which distro is the best for beginners? I'd need something I can do gaming on. I've heard good things about Pop!_OS, would you guys recommend it?
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You can try Linux Mint first.
I already have a Nvidia gpu that I'm going to use. I might upgrade to a different one eventually but that's what I have right now and I can't really afford an upgrade at the moment.
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There's no need to change your GPU, Nvidia has recently started to cooperate with Linux so things are getting better.
 
Cranjis McBasketball said:
I already have a Nvidia gpu that I'm going to use. I might upgrade to a different one eventually but that's what I have right now
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You'll be fine. I have nvidia because I didn't hop onto Linux until after I bought my 3080ti. The biggest issue back then was the new compositor (thing what make the windows be on the screen) didn't have proper support, but that has been fixed. For a first timer I doubt you'll go with something as involved as Arch or Gentoo, but if you see something pop up asking if you want nouveau drivers or nvidia drivers, pick nvidia. Nouveau is the open source option that doesn't get the help it needs from nvidia to really be good enough to use.

And I'd say you should be willing to distro hop a bit at first. Most distros are pretty similar under the hood being derivatives of the bigger ones (Debian, RHEL, SUSE), and the different distros just give you different default desktops/apps/etc.
 
Distros like Mint use older kernels, like 6.12, so they don't have NTSYNC yet. You could try adding it with DKMS, but the maintainers said they won’t backport it. Even on Arch, you still have to run modprobe ntsync to make it work. You can check if its working using mangohud (export MANGOHUD_CONFIG="winesync"), and run mangohud before the .exe. I don't use Steam, or Lutris, but there should be launch options.
 
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