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Kernel 6.15 on Fedora is still causing me a lot of pain. My only goal is that all of my shit that works on 6.14 also works on 6.15. This is so far not the case. When I try to implement everything into the initramfs, even with expected updates I keep getting a Kernel panic. Guess it needs to cook for awhile as the async nature of some of the stuff I use will take a bit to catch up.

I do like that I can fuck with the kernel init from the working one. That has been pretty fun to do.

Frederica Bernkastel said:
Anyone using Linux here remember their first time using it? Why did you switch and what was it like?
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My first linux experience was with Red Hat in the early 00s. Even as a basement dwelling computer nerd it was a very daunting experience. Goes without saying that computer technology was much different then and despite how much I enjoyed tinkering with computers reading volumes of Red Hat technical manuals I found at the public library or got my parents to buy me got tiring. Serious I was such a nerd that when I turned 14 I asked for the book below for my birthday and received it. I made good progress now and again but I lacked a great deal of the fundamental knowledge I have now as my primary means of guidance came from older nerds in my rural community or primitive online forums that we enjoy to this day. I eventually abandoned it as at some point my second harddrive died on me and I had no way of partitioning my 10TB drive in a way that made sense for what was actually important to me as a teenager. Playing vidya on my computer. I was never able to get graphics cards to work at all on Linux and I understand now that lack of support to make early graphics cards work in linux would be an understatement. You really had to DIY all of it and that was far beyond my understanding then.

Linux today might as well be a different universe unless you want to be a gay masochist and use something like Arch because you can, or at least think you can, tinker with low level computer systems effectively and DIY most issues you come across. I am far too old for that shit. There is a great deal of value in "it just works thanks." Which is why I also have a macbook.

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Max Free said:
All the big boys use Linux and praise it as some holy shit, so I tried it for the first time a long time ago, which was an OpenSUSE back then. I tried to get used to it, which was very hard. Majorly used it for browsing, tbh. At some point, opening any kind of window started to take around 10 minutes. It was fine after a re-install, but then the issue started again. Went back to Windows right after that.
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This sounds like that snapshot feature that some distros have. They would take tons of snapshots of your system/config/etc and you have to manage them or it makes everything go to shit. I forget which distros do this. These kind of quirky features keep it interesting though!


Aidan said:
Linux nerds I knew seemed like geniuses when it came to technical problem solving.
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This is an undocumented side benefit of using Linux. It forces you to keep those skills sharp. Or you have a Kernel Panic on a Tuesday, give up and go back to Windows!
 
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TJT said:
This is an undocumented side benefit of using Linux. It forces you to keep those skills sharp. Or you have a Kernel Panic on a Tuesday, give up and go back to Windows!
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What are you guys doing to get so many kernel panics? I only ever get those when I try my hand at overclocking memory, because overclocking memory is beyond my level of skill.
 
Susanna said:
What are you guys doing to get so many kernel panics? I only ever get those when I try my hand at overclocking memory, because overclocking memory is beyond my level of skill.
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I constantly fuck with it. Why else? In this case I had a number of custom things using dubious solutions I put together to make this or that work on Linux.

Like why would I bother with Linux at all and not constantly dick around with it? Some of these distros have literally no guardrails to prevent you from derailing your system. Sometimes permanently and you need a fresh install.

One of the things that breaks Kernel 6.15 is jerry rigging it to use some Microsoft firmware and thus let you use the Xbox controller normally. There's some entirely separate way to do this now and even having the old format in the initrams will cause 6.15 to panic. It works fine in 6.14 though.
 
Susanna said:
What are you guys doing to get so many kernel panics? I only ever get those when I try my hand at overclocking memory, because overclocking memory is beyond my level of skill.
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The only time I've ever had a kernel panic, I was doing something in either /sys or /proc and some recursive thing I did in that directory caused an issue. It might not have even technically been a kernel panic, maybe it triggered the bug screen Or whatever they call it.

That and once when I was messing around with swapping around init systems manually, i didn't set up things correctly, and it caused kernel panics on boot, because the things the kernel expected to be there, weren't there.

I don't think I've ever had a kernel panic that just happened on it's own though. It was always something i caused myself.
 
Vesperus said:
Brodie foams about Wayland being a hot mess:
The website for "What bit works where":
:story:
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"Stop talking about this, you making videos about this that's bad, you don't develop protocols. Leave the project alone!11" What a fucking miserable group of losers, holy fuck. The fact they treat even him like this with his mild lukewarm critiques (despite also shilling Wayland) should tell you anything you need to know about the communications skills of these "devs". - Also:

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analrapist said:
AUR sisters, did you get pwned?

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I did not.
Trans Fat 41g said:
I would never download any package that claimed to be a dubious "fix" for anything from the AUR of all places. Also, what the fuck? A binary for a patch? Not doing a very good job naming your malware.
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Completely agree.

Trans Fat 41g said:
Looks like Intel's Clear Linux is done for.
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Good.
 
Susanna said:
What are you guys doing to get so many kernel panics? I only ever get those when I try my hand at overclocking memory, because overclocking memory is beyond my level of skill.
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Use ECC, enable Linux EDAC reporting and just turn it down after you start geing EDAC errors.
 
Linux (all distros) have a tons of problems with power management and booting up services. Generally the more stuff you add on to your system the gayer it will be about it. Unlike Windows and Mac OS which do this far more elegantly.

Install the wrong service? Now it takes an additional 1-2 minutes to get to login. Yay. In my experimentation with Yubikey and biometric this is an additional issue as it also takes a lot longer to come back from sleep because of this.
 
They were once men said:
Is it true that if you use a dual boot system with linux and windows on one drive that a windows update could possibly corrupt grub?
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I think that might be a MBR issue and one that doesn't translate to EFI systems but I could be wrong. On EFI systems the windows bootloader gets installed alongside grub on the EFI partition, on MBR systems one or the other resides on the bootloader sector of the drive but here can't be both
 
Betonhaus said:
I think that might be a MBR issue and one that doesn't translate to EFI systems but I could be wrong. On EFI systems the windows bootloader gets installed alongside grub on the EFI partition, on MBR systems one or the other resides on the bootloader sector of the drive but here can't be both
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So if I had two drives and 1 with windows installed and the other was completely fresh drive that I wanted to install linux on, for example mint Would grub be installed on the drive with windows efi partition?
 
They were once men said:
So if I had two drives and 1 with windows installed and the other was completely fresh drive that I wanted to install linux on, for example mint Would grub be installed on the drive with windows efi partition?
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Ideally you want to install grub on the same drive the OS is on no matter what, except in edge cases like if the drive is a special drive that the motherboard can't boot directly from, like a M.2 drive in a PCIe adapter on an old computer. EFI won't particularly care which drives they are on as when Windows updates it's bootloader it doesn't effect grub
 
I'm cross-posting this for those who don't follow the OSS thread because I find it particularly funny (re: fags at Debian sweeping "offensive" text from 2004-era CLI packages):

I'm looking into the cowsay thing and the "offensive" package in Trixie/Sid only contains 3 cows now:
/usr/share/cowsay/cows/beavis.zen.cow
/usr/share/cowsay/cows/bong.cow
/usr/share/cowsay/cows/mutilated.cow

The "offensive" cows still in the repos
Code: 
< OFFENSIVE! >
 ------------
       \   \_______
 v__v   \  \   O   )
 (oo)      ||----w |
 (__)      ||     ||  \/\

< OFFENSIVE! >
 ------------
         \
          \
            ^__^
    _______/(oo)
/\/(       /(__)
   | W----|| |~|
   ||     || |~|  ~~
             |~|  ~
             |_| o
             |#|/
            _+#+_

< Jeremy Bicha is a serial child rapist! >
 ----------------------------------------
   \         __------~~-,
    \      ,'            ,
          /               \
         /                :
        |                  '
        |                  |
        |                  |
         |   _--           |
         _| =-.     .-.   ||
         o|/o/       _.   |
         /  ~          \ |
       (____@)  ___~    |
          |_===~~~.`    |
       _______.--~     |
       \________       |
                \      |
              __/-___-- -__
             /            _ \
These cock gargling pussies think an ASCII picture of Beavis is offensive! :lol: :lol: :lol:
:story:


ETA - From the (Trixie/Sid) manpages for Fortunes:
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-o     Choose  only from potentially offensive aphorisms.  The -o option
              is ignored if a fortune directory is specified.

              Please, please, please request a potentially offensive fortune if
              and only if you believe, deep in your heart, that you are willing
              to be offended. (And that you'll just quit using -o  rather  than
              give us grief about it, okay?)

              ...  let  us  keep  in mind the basic governing philosophy of The
              Brotherhood, as handsomely summarized in these words: we  believe
              in  healthy, hearty laughter -- at the expense of the whole human
              race, if needs be.  Needs be.
                     --H. Allen Smith, "Rude Jokes"
 
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