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I just happened to notice this on the xlibre xserver page. I thought everyone here would like it.

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prollyanotherlurker said:
I just happened to notice this on the xlibre xserver page. I thought everyone here would like it.

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Not the own these freaks think it is. Good, well-designed software can be useful to anyone. Evil, fag-infested crap like Wayland is and always will be good for nothing and noone.
 
Brazil has effectively banned Linux on it's Internet monitoring and censorship bill (disguised as a anti child exploitation and internet access law) which is a literal copy of the draconian UK law.

Art. 12. Providers of internet application stores and terminal operating systems must:


I – take proportional, auditable, and technically secure measures to verify the age or age range of users, in accordance with the principles set forth in Art. 6 of Law No. 13,709, of August 14, 2018 (General Data Protection Law – LGPD);


II – allow parents or legal guardians to configure voluntary parental control mechanisms and actively supervise children’s and adolescents’ access to applications and content; and


III – enable, through a secure Application Programming Interface (API) designed with privacy protection from the outset, the provision of an age signal to internet application providers, exclusively for the purposes of this Law and with appropriate technical safeguards.


§ 1. The provision of an age signal via APIs must observe the principle of data minimization, prohibiting any continuous, automated, and unrestricted sharing of personal data of children and adolescents.


§ 2. Authorization for downloading applications by children and adolescents will depend on the free and informed consent of parents or legal guardians, provided in accordance with current legislation, respecting progressive autonomy, and prohibiting the presumption of authorization in the absence of a manifestation by parents or legal guardians.


§ 3. An act of the Executive Branch will regulate the minimum requirements of transparency, security, and interoperability for age verification and parental supervision mechanisms adopted by operating systems and application stores.


Art. 13. Data collected for age verification of children and adolescents may only be used for that purpose, and their processing for any other purpose is prohibited.(KEK!)


Art. 14. Suppliers of information technology products or services aimed at children and adolescents, or likely to be accessed by them, must adopt technical and organizational measures to ensure the receipt of age information referred to in Art. 12 of this Law.


Sole paragraph. Regardless of measures adopted by operating systems and application stores, the suppliers referred to in the caput of this article must implement their own mechanisms to prevent children and adolescents from accessing content inappropriate for their age, in accordance with § 1 of Art. 5 of this Law
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Art. 35. Without prejudice to other civil, criminal, or administrative sanctions, in the event of noncompliance with the obligations established in this Law, and ensuring due process, full defense, and adversarial proceedings, offenders shall be subject to the following penalties:


I – warning, with a period of up to 30 (thirty) days to adopt corrective measures;


II – a simple fine of up to 10% (ten percent) of the economic group’s revenue in Brazil in its last fiscal year or, if revenue is absent, a fine of R$ 10.00 (ten reais) up to R$ 1,000.00 (one thousand reais) per registered user of the sanctioned provider, limited in total to R$ 50,000,000.00 (fifty million reais) per infraction;


III – temporary suspension of activities;


IV – prohibition from carrying out activities.


§ 1. In setting and grading the sanction, in addition to proportionality and reasonableness, the following circumstances shall be considered:


I – the severity of the infraction, taking into account its motives and the extent of the damage at both individual and collective levels;


II – recurrence in committing infractions provided for in this Law;


III – the economic capacity of the offender, in the case of imposing a fine;


IV – the social purpose of the supplier and the impact on the community regarding the flow of information within the national territory.


§ 2. In the case of a foreign company, its branch, subsidiary, office, or establishment located in the country shall be jointly responsible for the payment of the fine referred to in item II of the caput of this article.


§ 3. The process of investigating infractions under this Law and applying the applicable sanctions shall be governed by the provisions relating to the investigation of administrative violations of child and adolescent protection norms and the imposition of the respective penalties provided in Law No. 8,069, of July 13, 1990 (Statute of the Child and Adolescent).


§ 4. The amounts of fines provided for in item II of the caput of this article shall be updated annually according to the Broad National Consumer Price Index (IPCA) calculated by the Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics (IBGE), or any index that replaces it, and published in the official press by the competent Executive Branch authority, in accordance with regulations.


§ 5. The penalties provided for in items I and II of the caput shall be applied by the autonomous administrative authority for the protection of children’s and adolescents’ rights in the digital environment, and those provided in items III and IV of the caput shall be applied by the Judiciary.


§ 6. Temporary suspension and prohibition of activities provided for in items III and IV of the caput, when not implemented directly by the offender, shall be carried out through a blocking order directed to telecommunications service providers that supply internet connection, internet exchange point management entities, domain name resolution service providers, and other agents that enable connection between users and content servers on the internet.


§ 7. The National Telecommunications Agency (Anatel) is responsible for issuing the blocking orders provided for in § 6 of this article, with the option to define the most appropriate technical means for their implementation.


Art. 36. The amounts collected from fines applied under this Law shall be allocated to the National Fund for Children and Adolescents, established by Law No. 8,242, of October 12, 1991, and must be used exclusively in policies and projects aimed at the protection of children and adolescents.
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Not the own these freaks think it is. Good, well-designed software can be useful to anyone. Evil, fag-infested crap like Wayland is and always will be good for nothing and noone.
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not to mention that Wayland is basically designed to be replaced. It's pushing all the hard work onto the developers for the DEs and GPUs and such so that the wayland developers can be lazy and only deal with basic APIs, which can be ported to X11 pretty easily.
 
Fledgling Neuromancer said:
So they expect the age verification tech to be baked into the operating system? Absolutely horrible.
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Pretty much, the way it is written if you dont verify your ID or biometrics to prove you are 18 when doing a startup login of your PC might put your OS into jeopardy.
 
AN/ALR56 said:
Pretty much, the way it is written if you dont verify your ID or biometrics to prove you are 18 when doing a startup login of your PC might put your OS into jeopardy.
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Fledgling Neuromancer said:
So they expect the age verification tech to be baked into the operating system? Absolutely horrible.
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This is great. These laws are literally against stupid people who can't figure out how to bypass shit. I can't power level on this but depending on how it works this can be fucking great.
 
neger psykolog said:
This is great. These laws are literally against stupid people who can't figure out how to bypass shit. I can't power level on this but depending on how it works this can be fucking great.
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I hate it but I want to see it happen so it can be broken harder and deeper than a buck at a buck breaking party for jeets.
Shit. I want to see a slap fight like we haven't seen since the dvd encryption days.
 

neger psykolog said:
Hell yeah, if people actually had something to fight for online once again it would be amazing and would show who has unity and where the division lines are.
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honestly. I've started buying into the Eglin Air Force base reddit theory more. I mean, it's not a theory, but I've been thinking about what exactly they are trying to accomplish.


I can't help, but see what's being posted on modern reddit. And knowing about that. It makes a lot of sense. It's a stream of pure propaganda at this point, and any time there is something you think both sides you support. You see astroturfed posts, saying why it's heckin problematic. Or pushing rage bait posts, made from out of context video, or quotes. Or are just obviously wrong. But they get the most engagement. It's a perfect platform to sow division. It happens in basically any of the big subreddits, that aren't about some niche hobby.

This is absolutely something I hope brings people together, because it shouldn't matter what side of the political spectrum you are on, these changes are bad for everyone. And you will always notice, when they are trying to get passed as law, they are brought up as by partisan bills. I think that alone should show this really isn't something where being communist, liberal, republican, or far right, should effect your opinion. The problem is, especially with things like speech ( look at what people on reddit say about things like hate speech laws) it's easy to think that the laws are only going to effect the "bad people", and people do the same with online privacy. They never think you need to defend it even if it will effect people you don't like first, because if you don't one day it will effect you, and by that time it will be so much harder to undo, if not impossible.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:


honestly. I've started buying into the Eglin Air Force base reddit theory more. I mean, it's not a theory, but I've been thinking about what exactly they are trying to accomplish.


I can't help, but see what's being posted on modern reddit. And knowing about that. It makes a lot of sense. It's a stream of pure propaganda at this point, and any time there is something you think both sides you support. You see astroturfed posts, saying why it's heckin problematic. Or pushing rage bait posts, made from out of context video, or quotes. Or are just obviously wrong. But they get the most engagement. It's a perfect platform to sow division. It happens in basically any of the big subreddits, that aren't about some niche hobby.

This is absolutely something I hope brings people together, because it shouldn't matter what side of the political spectrum you are on, these changes are bad for everyone. And you will always notice, when they are trying to get passed as law, they are brought up as by partisan bills. I think that alone should show this really isn't something where being communist, liberal, republican, or far right, should effect your opinion. The problem is, especially with things like speech ( look at what people on reddit say about things like hate speech laws) it's easy to think that the laws are only going to effect the "bad people", and people do the same with online privacy. They never think you need to defend it even if it will effect people you don't like first, because if you don't one day it will effect you, and by that time it will be so much harder to undo, if not impossible.
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I get you but also keep in mind that most people are really, really, really stupid and are not only stupid but arrogant and believe they're fighting a heckin valid fight by arguing about star wars lore plus [insert slop political topic].

Edit: plus that Anglin Air Force base theory is from 2013. It's trivial to go rent servers to mask/diffuse your location and a psyops division would do that if they were astroturfing the internet.
 
AN/ALR56 said:
Brazil has effectively banned Linux on it's Internet monitoring and censorship bill (disguised as a anti child exploitation and internet access law) which is a literal copy of the draconian UK law.
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The only thing Linux I have heard from Brazil is that trash distro Wubuntu which was a huge scam IIRC, so this is not a huge loss. Knee capping a core OS in many industries and use cases just to save the children is one of the most retarded moves I've ever seen a government suggest in recent times. Screw all the researchers, scientists, and IT that rely on Linux I guess. I know Brazil probably dont have a lot of those, but there are bound to at least be some and they're about to have way less of all of those things if this goes through in the way it is written here, because I don't see any reality where Linus merges something like that into the kernel.

I wonder what will happen with Windows, unless I am mistaken they don't got anything like that in their OS either. Maybe they'll get some exception or perhaps MS will go along with it? If you are right about them wanting to place something like this before login I wonder if they might find some BIOS or motherboard manufacturers to be more pliable or easier to push around to add some bullshit like this into the core of any system. That would be fucked.
 
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neger psykolog said:
Hell yeah, if people actually had something to fight for online once again it would be amazing and would show who has unity and where the division lines are.
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prollyanotherlurker said:
This is absolutely something I hope brings people together, because it shouldn't matter what side of the political spectrum you are on, these changes are bad for everyone.
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Govern me harder daddy. I'm rebeeeeliiiingggg.
Jokes asides, it's not good, it wont bring anyone "together" and now that it's a law, even if ineffectual now, in a God forsaken country, it will be amended constantly for an eternity, and studied to be applied elsewhere.

Akerman said:
I wonder what will happen with Windows, unless I am mistaken they don't got anything like that in their OS either.
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Can't they just allow Microsoft to require ID verified MS accounts and not allow local ones? That would be the easiest thing to do and I doubt MS would have any issues with that. Brazil probably doesn't have enough pull to force manufacturers to do what they want. But, BIOS or HW level in general, would be, obviously, the way to go.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
I just happened to notice this on the xlibre xserver page. I thought everyone here would like it.

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I think this image showed up around the time people were bitching about the README. Speaking of: whether or not it was a good idea to mention anti DEI sentiment at all doesn't really detract from how the fork was targeted as wrongthink, thus becoming counterculture with eventual vocal pushback. Don't do the very thing that make others want to call it out where it's "inappropriate" (tit-for-tat).

EDIT: for fucks sake I can't edit a post with a quote without the quote just being destroyed, can I?
 
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prollyanotherlurker said:
I just happened to notice this on the xlibre xserver page. I thought everyone here would like it.

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That's a clear as day sign that XLibre is both good software and has a good community. People are actually talking about the port itself and ignoring the tranny rice. That is how it should be: good software being used by everyone regardless of political opinion or deviant tendencies.

HalHalliday said:
Jokes asides, it's not good, it wont bring anyone "together" and now that it's a law, even if ineffectual now, in a God forsaken country, it will be amended constantly for an eternity, and studied to be applied elsewhere.
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The flip side should also be true though; having a shithole be the petri dish for this kind of law can let people study how to circumvent it more easily when applied elsewhere. Same with the UK implementation, it just ends up being a flaccid nothingburger that can be circumvented even with a minimal passing knowledge of the Internet, VPNs and or Tor. Or if you're really paranoid, get yourself a big ole high powered antenna and point it at your nearest McDickholes for a blazing fast 100kb/s private Internet access.
 
Ferryman said:
The flip side should also be true though; having a shithole be the petri dish for this kind of law can let people study how to circumvent it more easily when applied elsewhere.
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Idk. Do you mean technologically or legally?
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Same with the UK implementation, it just ends up being a flaccid nothingburger that can be circumvented even with a minimal passing knowledge of the Internet, VPNs and or Tor.
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Sure, but now they have a foothold. Gates flung open without a fight. The enemy is in the city, debating how they will massacre everyone. Truly a good news. Still enough time to hide. Or to check on the gates of your city. Or maybe tomorrow. I mean, what are the chances, right? What is it now? UK, EU and now Brazil? Must have been the wind.
 
HalHalliday said:
Idk. Do you mean technologically or legally?

Sure, but now they have a foothold. Gates flung open without a fight. The enemy is in the city, debating how they will massacre everyone. Truly a good news. Still enough time to hide. Or to check on the gates of your city. Or maybe tomorrow. I mean, what are the chances, right? What is it now? UK, EU and now Brazil? Must have been the wind.
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Technologically. As we've seen in the UK the legal end is just corrupt and against you from the roots up. As for your latter point, yeah, you've got me there. If you are US based which I assume you are, then yes, I suppose you have a chance to fight against the draconian laws there. As for us that are in Europe, I am not so certain. I believe the digital wallet and children's safety bullshit already passed and is simply waiting to be implemented, hence why I am not of a preventative mind. The parasite is fully grown, now it is time to figure out how to expunge it, and survive until we can.
 
neger psykolog said:
Hell yeah, if people actually had something to fight for online once again it would be amazing and would show who has unity and where the division lines are.
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My Nigger in Chris, I was one of the poor bastards who spent the tail end of the 90's re-coding 70's COBOL to meet the Y2K requirements and the only recognition I get is either "that was a hoax" or "yeah, people panicked but nothing happened".

People don't fight. At least, 99.5% don't.
They look at the shiny colors and play Farmville and say 'hi' to Grandma.

To be fair, nearly all of them are too stupid to do anything worth monitoring, but the space for us who don't want to be tracked 24x7 is shrinking, and broccoli-haired retards on tiktok are not going to change that.

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In other news, although I liked Devuan, I'm in the process of switching to Artix. A process accelerated by Manjaro apparently corrupting all my package PGP keys.

Fucking kek
 
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