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Froggy Fresh Sextape said:
Yeah, by running gentoo in a VM.
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Or from a chroot or container. Gentoo doesn't need a special kernel that would necessitate a full virtual machine.
Froggy Fresh Sextape said:
Neither distro is going to work with portage.
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There is Gentoo Prefix, but I dont think anyone has been brave enough to attempt binpkg creation (for the purpose of use in other machines) from it.
Zeftax said:
Is it possible to compile gentoo packages for my 32 bit slow PC on a 64bit fast one? I found some guide for making a binhost / using distcc, but they all assume the computers use the same architecture. Has anyone here tried it with success?
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I've once used distcc + sys-devel/multilib-gcc-wrapper for this scenario. Issue is that distcc is finicky (and all the other drawbacks from it) so id recommend the binhost approach that was already linked instead.
 
Redditors seem to be getting more & more fed up with Wayland lately. Usually these types of posts have a lot of downdoots from the cultists, rampant accusations of XLibre fascist promotion, "it werks for me" or w/e else, but not this time.

You even have people calling for people to just go back to X11 now:

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Akerman said:
Redditors seem to be getting more & more fed up with Wayland lately. Usually these types of posts have a lot of downdoots from the cultists, rampant accusations of XLibre fascist promotion, "it werks for me" or w/e else, but not this time.
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Its fucking insane that its been 5 years since I first ran into that problem and its still broken. OBS on wayland has:

1. No global hotkey support.
2. No browser source support since cef doesnt support wayland.

Rendering it pretty much useless to anyone thats not using it as a simple recorder unless you force it to run in xwayland mode. Suffah streamers ig.

Total Waylandtranny Death.
 
Froggy Fresh Sextape said:
You are correct, I'm just very conservative about recommendations. A VM would be easiest and have the least likelihood of fucking up your main install if you mess up doing something.
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That's understandable, but the container solution would also fit the bill for the "dont fuck up your main system by accident" department. There are official gentoo docker images or you could generate a gentoo image with distrobuilder and use it with incus.
 
Akerman said:
Redditors seem to be getting more & more fed up with Wayland lately. Usually these types of posts have a lot of downdoots from the cultists, rampant accusations of XLibre fascist promotion, "it werks for me" or w/e else, but not this time.

You even have people calling for people to just go back to X11 now:

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I'm willing to bet the people who are saying "Wayland is ready" are dorks who only use Hyprland. Anything more complicated than window managers, on Wayland, is going to be plagued with way more bugs.
 
Frederica Bernkastel said:
I'm willing to bet the people who are saying "Wayland is ready" are dorks who only use Hyprland. Anything more complicated than window managers, on Wayland, is going to be plagued with way more bugs.
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Honest Wayland advertising: "Wayland works great, as long as you use it for things you could do better in tmux"
 
Rust Troony said:
Total Waylandtranny Death.
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I would find it more humorous if I didn't know that these rats are deliberately destroying Linux with this bullshit, and the thread is a good example of why. The OP strikes me as a newish user, and so what does he like any new user blame when Wayland just werks as intended? Linux. I do not fault him or any other new user for that tbh, why should he be expected to know that Wayland is a dumpster fire? He just wanted to use his computer for something normal that any other compositor does without any problems whatsoever.

For all he knows it was Linux that failed to do this simple task, it failed here and it failed every other time he tried to do a normal thing like having programs open consistently on a primary monitor that's not placed on the left of the other one. - And this BS is why Wayland is such an apocalyptic event for Desktop Linux. Every issue it has is due to "Linux" or sometimes "Linux and NVIDIA", but it's never Wayland. And if someone ever dares complain about it they are dogpiled by moronic cultists, most I am sure quietly leave after that. And this shit is all hitting us at the same time that people have started warming up to the idea of trying an alternative system to Windows. So now is a perfect time for every major DE and/or distro to largely drop X11 COMPLETELY for the thing that is still riddled with issues. Well, everyone except for the TROON Foundation ig who realized that Wayshit can't do display managers on parity with X11 yet and had to reverse course in an embarrassingly public fashion. X11 can launch both Wayshit and X11 sessions without any problems whatsoever while GDM on Wayland can't. 20 fucking years of development, guys. I am pretty sure they fixed it later and that it had to do with how X11 was implemented or GDM, but it's still hilarious. The author assured us in his/her/xer blog post where he IIRC subtly blamed X11 for this for some reason that all of this is just a temporary setback however, and that GNOME is still on track to drop X11 completely as soon as Wayshit is ready™ Can't wait for that.
 
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Akerman said:
but it's never Wayland
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That's true though. As the Waylandwhales will have you know, "it's just a protocol". And how can a protocol not work? Checkmate, Linuxists. :story: All you need is a GPU-accelerated terminal (just to run Neofetch rewritten in Rust, of course, not to do any of that loser nerd shit, like run commands or whatever) and Google®™ Chrome®™.

No, but seriously, how the fuck there's still no global hotkeys support? How can anyone live like this, I don't understand (:_(
 
Frederica Bernkastel said:
I'm willing to bet the people who are saying "Wayland is ready" are dorks who only use Hyprland. Anything more complicated than window managers, on Wayland, is going to be plagued with way more bugs.
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Akerman said:
So now is a perfect time for every major DE and/or distro to largely drop X11 COMPLETELY for the thing that is still riddled with issues.
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I can't think of any good distro that has done that.
 
Betonhaus said:
You're saying there's some bad ones that did?

...fuck I probably actually know the bigger ones but I need sleep
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the only ones I know of that are doing it, are fedora (well probably the other redhat stuff), and ubuntu. Neither, I would ever use by choice. Not because of them dropping xorg, I already wouldn't have used them.
 
Did they ever fix fractional scaling in Mint? My friend came to me today and gave me the generic "Windows 11 sucks, I wanna try Linux what's the best one for beginners?" spiel, and I gave him the generic "Oh just try Mint, it looks a lot like windows and it has a ton of support because it's Ubuntu based" spiel. Then I remembered it's been a couple years since I used Mint and last time I was using it was absolute hell on anything other than a 1080p monitor because of the awful screen tearing it would give you on anything that wasn't 100% or 200% scaling.

Also, they didn't switch to snaps, right? I wouldn't wish that on anybody.
 
Akerman said:
20 fucking years of development, guys
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Yeah, cause RedHat's major use cases are that some tranny 1) opens gnome-terminal, ssh into a RHEL server and fires up htop, and 2) orders estrogen from the Internet. 20 fucking years WITH CORPORATE BACKING and it's still dogshit I'm actually mad.
Microsoft changes their whole render system in Vista and it just worked btw, no one even knows this happened.
 
Sugriva said:
Did they ever fix fractional scaling in Mint? My friend came to me today and gave me the generic "Windows 11 sucks, I wanna try Linux what's the best one for beginners?" spiel, and I gave him the generic "Oh just try Mint, it looks a lot like windows and it has a ton of support because it's Ubuntu based" spiel. Then I remembered it's been a couple years since I used Mint and last time I was using it was absolute hell on anything other than a 1080p monitor because of the awful screen tearing it would give you on anything that wasn't 100% or 200% scaling.

Also, they didn't switch to snaps, right? I wouldn't wish that on anybody.
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The Linux Mint display setting window has a tab where there's an extra settings page, on that you can enable fractional scaling.
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Sugriva said:
Did they ever fix fractional scaling in Mint? My friend came to me today and gave me the generic "Windows 11 sucks, I wanna try Linux what's the best one for beginners?" spiel, and I gave him the generic "Oh just try Mint, it looks a lot like windows and it has a ton of support because it's Ubuntu based" spiel. Then I remembered it's been a couple years since I used Mint and last time I was using it was absolute hell on anything other than a 1080p monitor because of the awful screen tearing it would give you on anything that wasn't 100% or 200% scaling.

Also, they didn't switch to snaps, right? I wouldn't wish that on anybody.
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Like @Betonhaus said, Mint has a setting in the display window. I have enabled fractional scaling and it works fine with my two 1920x1080 monitors, no issue what so ever. If you do recommend it to your friend make sure to tell him this, let him know he can turn it on or off.

As for snaps: they've removed them from the base system. If for some fucked reason you wanted to turn them back on you have to follow specific instructions somewhere in the terminal. I don't think the Mint team particular cares for snaps.
 
Wood said:
Yeah, cause RedHat's major use cases are that some tranny 1) opens gnome-terminal, ssh into a RHEL server and fires up htop, and 2) orders estrogen from the Internet. 20 fucking years WITH CORPORATE BACKING and it's still dogshit I'm actually mad.
Microsoft changes their whole render system in Vista and it just worked btw, no one even knows this happened.
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Don't forget single window display systems like kiosks and onboard computers on cars. You don't need global hotkeys or video recording capabilities for that and, as there's no corporate money in things like this, nothing gets fixed. Anything IBM/Red Hat related is developed on Macs and you should feel blessed as an ordinary user that your silly little "use case" is even entertained.
 
Belisarius Cawl said:
How do you handle tray icons
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Every default configuration of i3 that I've used just displays them at the right hand side of the bottom bar (with the virtual desktop switching etc). Some of the more esoteric tiling WMs may require a separate application if you want to display them.
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Recently I rant into some stuff that no longer displays tray icons. snixembed is a tool that will convert the newer notification messages to the old xembed system. I ran into this issue with one of the PySide6 (Qt6) applications I'm writing. They've entirely dropped the old notification system in Qt6 and i3 has no plans on supporting it as of right now.

Akerman said:
GRUB broke on boot for me and a lot of people after a recent update, after booting I was met with this error message: error: symbol grub_is_using_legacy_shim_lock_protocol not found.
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daffodils said:
No, Grub is just an overcomplicated mess. Even experienced users just run grub-install, grub-mkconfig, and pray. Or switch to efistub.
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I'm glad I'm running all my new systems on ZFS now. ZFSBootMenu works really well and can load native encrypted volumes. I know there's a supposed scrub/snapshot issue with native encryption, but I've never run into it, but I also run regular backups and never have two zfs sends/recvs running at the same time.
 
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