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So you mean replacing completely stable stuff that had been tested for literally decades in favor of untested troonslop caused problems?
The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice
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The issue with the Deck is that for all the good that it has, the ergonomics, the perfectly tailored Arch distro, it's still pretty fucking underpowered compared to the rest of the "competition" that only decided to come up with this radical new design of a handheld gaming PC only after this one company that doesn't exist to make the green line go up decided to make one, so they're doing "bigger number better" with much shittier ergonomics and Windows, which at best should only go on laptops, because that way you can safely make the green line go up. Linux is risky, can make green line go down, can't do that. Ergonomics that don't suck dick can make green line go down, can't do that.
Also notice how Valve only gives SteamOS to those individual handheld models, because they gotta tailor it for that specific hardware. Just to keep in mind if you're one of those "I'm totally gonna leave Windows when SteamOS happens" idiots. It won't, the only reason it's good is because it's tailored per hardware specification. You either switch to Linux now or you're one of these LARPers that voted "Linux" on the TechPowerUp poll but will still stay on Windows because it would take you too much effort to switch to Linux. Windows 11 is just another convenient goalpost shift when Proton and DXVK already made Linux "ready" before 11 was even released.
Remember: if someone keeps shilling Linux, shitting on Windows, but still uses Windows, they are nigger cattle that are afraid of change, don't actually want to use Linux, but just want to complain online. If they're the type of nigger cattle that only plays vidya and browses the web, they could switch to Bazzite right now and never look back. Do they do that? No, they mope about it, cope by saying "I'll dual boot/play in a VM before I switch", never actually get used to Linux, then stay on Windows.
Also notice how Valve only gives SteamOS to those individual handheld models, because they gotta tailor it for that specific hardware. Just to keep in mind if you're one of those "I'm totally gonna leave Windows when SteamOS happens" idiots. It won't, the only reason it's good is because it's tailored per hardware specification. You either switch to Linux now or you're one of these LARPers that voted "Linux" on the TechPowerUp poll but will still stay on Windows because it would take you too much effort to switch to Linux. Windows 11 is just another convenient goalpost shift when Proton and DXVK already made Linux "ready" before 11 was even released.
Remember: if someone keeps shilling Linux, shitting on Windows, but still uses Windows, they are nigger cattle that are afraid of change, don't actually want to use Linux, but just want to complain online. If they're the type of nigger cattle that only plays vidya and browses the web, they could switch to Bazzite right now and never look back. Do they do that? No, they mope about it, cope by saying "I'll dual boot/play in a VM before I switch", never actually get used to Linux, then stay on Windows.
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Mmm, dogfood. I'm astonished folks still use Noobuntu. Like bro, if you're a noob, just use Mint, and if you want to learn Linux, just use Debian.
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PSA for anyone who wants to fiddle with Flatpaks on an OpenRC distribution like Artix, Devuan, Gentoo, or whatever else: please remember to add the below to your
Azahar kept shitting itself telling me something about NOFILE and xapps permissions. After adding those lines to
/etc/security/limits.conf file.
Code:
#<domain> <type> <item> <value>
#
captainjack soft nofile 10000 // add this line; replace "captainjack" with your username
captainjack hard nofile 10000 // add this line too; replace "captainjack" with your username
#* soft core 0
#* hard rss 10000
#@student hard nproc 20
#@faculty soft nproc 20
#@faculty hard nproc 50
#ftp hard nproc 0
#@student - maxlogins 4
# End of file
the-lighting:[captainjack]:~$Azahar kept shitting itself telling me something about NOFILE and xapps permissions. After adding those lines to
/etc/security/limits.conf, Azahar properly loaded up, and I was able to get my fix of SMT4A, SJR, Pokemon Omega Ruby, and Super Mario 3D Land. Apparently, this step isn't required when you're running a systemd distro like Linux Mint or Fedora, or if you're running FreeBSD. Not sure why OpenRC is where Azahar chose to shit itself over such a technicality, but I digress.
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Does Batshite even allow dual-booting? I know it doesn't allow being installed to an external drive. Same with N00bara.
Also, DSC (needed for many high-refreshrate, high-resolution monitors) doesn't work right with Linux on NVidia (which happens to be the GPU brand of choice for most gamers).
I was at first convinced there was no support from the driver for it, but eventually got it working by repeatedly switching refresh rates via a script until it hooked in. It takes around a minute to finish, because the screen needs a few seconds to come on after each change, and has to be repeated after every resolution change.
Needless to say such things won't keep many NVidia people on Linux. Don't call them nigger cattle just because they have more demanding hardware than you do.
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Sounds like nigger cattle hardware to me. 
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Bazzite and Nobara are hardly worthwhile beginner starting points. They're Fedora derivatives whose claim to fame amounts to "Hey, I did the headache of setting up all the good stuff from RPM Fusion for you, so you don't have to!" It's nice, but there's a critical problem both distros have: Fedora is a pure 64-bit operating system that serves as a testbed for Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Fedora's priorities have, for decades, skewed toward enterprise features than home use. There's one critical exception made for 32-bit applications, and it's explicitly for Steam. Canonical dropped the 32-bit version of Ubuntu, but modern Ubuntu still has full 32-bit library support. Almost all home consumer stuff made for Linux is either distro-agnostic via Flatpaks or explicitly packaged only for Debian/Ubuntu. The Fedora project's also much more pozzed than Canonical is, with Fedora itching to phase out Xorg from their repositories in the near future. All I'm saying is that normies who opt for Bazzite or Nobara for their first distro will be in for a rude awakening the moment they wanna fiddle with any 32-bit legacy application that isn't a DX9 game. This is why Linux Mint remains the de-facto gold standard for normie-friendly Linux distros, and consistently held the title for almost 20 years.
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Memory safety is basically all that Rust has. It's otherwise very unwieldy as a general purpose language because Rust users have this weird ideological radicality where any legitimate criticism of the language is disregarded because muh memory safety.
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It works wonders on my Intel laptops.
Why do people even want the "year of the linux desktop" to happen so badly outside of the allure of repeating memetic phrases like that constantly. Its not like it'd really bring massive benefits to the actual operating system and the distros used. God knows windows has only gotten worse despite (or due to) its ubiquity,
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Mine is an AyyMD so it's not like it needs any extra tuning to not suck ass. Though funnily enough AMD's software for undervolting will refuse to run on mobile chips so you have to resort to something called "Universal x86 Tuning Utility" if you want to undervolt your AMD APU laptop.
Isn't it that C can also be memory safe, but requires extra skill, care and attention when coding, so the only reason Rust is being praised in any way is because it's cutting out the work all the Cniles already do?
I don't know, why do people cling onto Linux as their entire identity instead of treating it as what it is: a tool that is better fit for certain use cases than the other tool? The Linux community is the biggest cyst on Linux as a whole and that's the cold hard truth.
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In an ideal world, a bigger userbase would be an incentive for software vendors to provide native builds for Linux. In reality, of course, it's just penguin-brained cultists wanting to feel superior and celebrating every 0.1% market share shift.
Memory safety is more of a language/toolchain feature, but yes, that's the point. In unsafe languages, you have to think about it (and it's not always simple), in safe languages the compiler enforces it for you (as in, fails the build until you fix your shit). The ironic part is how much Rust stuff relies on
unsafe { } contexts to bypass those checks.
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I only say it as a meme to reference the fact that it hasn't happened despite being declared every year.
Linux will not become a 'basic niggercattle' desktop OS because there is no market force driving its development in that direction. The real currency involved for distributors is those users who will develop software and maybe maintain some packages. The distributions are made to appeal to those people and to draw them away from other distributions. A distributor would not benefit at all from 10 million non-contributing niggercattle suddenly running their OS and flooding every community with retarded questions.
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I don't and I dread the thought. If Linux gained the entire userbase of Windows by next year, you would get all the hacks that Windows needs to keep the niggercattle docile and the distro ecosystem would be unrecognizable and unusable.
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Which wraps back to what was discussed earlier about how SELinux used to be too aggressive leading to a ton of breakages. At some point you have to stop locking everything down because once you start locking it down too hard you start to break shit. When Rust makes everything memory safe by default, suddenly a lot of conventional functions and practices cease to work as they rely on the unsafe access to work.
In other words, fuck Rust troons.
You know how "Primus sucks" stopped being a meme and Les Claypool had to say that he hates it and people should stop saying it because some people started taking it seriously, not being aware of the in-joke? Same thing happened to the whole "Year of the Linux Desktop" schtick. It's no longer an in-joke and too many people treat it seriously. Pisses off both Linux and Windows users.
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I don't think most people do want that. I certainly don't. But, if I had to give a reason, it is because proprietary software is ontological evil and steering people away from it is a moral imperative.
+++ like @cigint said, a larger user base does not automatically imply it turns into a shitting street, but it does mean that at least some of those users will contribute meaningfully to open source development. Even if 1% of newcomers became routine contributors, that would be a massive boon for FOSS as a whole. Just gotta make sure they RTFM.
Nail meet head. I honestly think Rust is a victim of circumstance that kind of just got co-opted by troons and other extremists because of its already soylent politics given that it started as a Mozilla product. Plus it appeals to the faggot safety tranny need to make everything "safe and inclusive". Since we're on topic, obligatory safety ogre Ariadne Conill says hello. Might as well be a mascot for safety trannies at this point:
I mean if you want to put it like that maybe, but at a certain point a tool becomes big enough and prevalent enough in your day to day life (e.g. an operating system) that it can stop being just a tool and become a more partial representation of the person using it and their "lifestyle" so to speak. I don't buy into that kind of thing but its fairly common to see happen, from OSes to browsers to phones to actual PC device hardware, they all get internalized like that to non-trivial degrees. This is ignoring the angle of free open source in general currently standing as the sole opposition to anti-consumerism in some eyes of the public (people don't even give passing consideration to any proprietary alternative nowadays), so being pro-linux ends up tying you back to that entire movement, get deep enough into that and it will become a little bit personal, I think.
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It doesn't suck ass, it just runs better with undervolting and further tweaking. The one area where it truly doesn't live up to its promise is XMP. Instead of running DDR4-3200 CL16, I had to set it to DDR4-2933 CL15 to even boot.
With AMD, things tend to be, ummm, similar but different. My AMD desktop, for example, has its APU occasionally blacking out from undervolted CPU or overclocked RAM. If you do both, or do more of one or the other, it will black out more often until it starts crashing the system completely. It's just the Vega iGPU, mind you. If I run graphics over the NVidia dGPU, everything is fine.
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Niggercattle shouldn't use computers at all regardless of OS. And they mostly wouldn't if given the choice. Even Windows could only do much to get normalfags to sit down at a desktop like a fuckin nerd. Smartphones have done way more damage to the internet, software, and how people use technology than Windows has.
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You can also use this https://fil-c.org/ to compile a c/c++ project to be memory safe without having to modify your program. It's a fork of clang that adds memory safety checks in the compiled code (similar to rust with array index checks, but of course more sophisticated because it's not done a language level). It works for real projects, including the xorg server.