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DavidS877 said:
As someone who has blown up a bunch of hardware. Get an actual USB to TTL adapter, ideally switchable 5v 3.3v using a real FTDI FT232 chip, they're far cheaper to blow up than a Pi, and more tolerant.
The only reason to hook ground to 3.3v would be to blow something up. Luckily pin 10 is not ground but appears to be the control voltage to enable the GPIO pins which probably would be 3.3v. So you'd still need a ground, probably pin 5.
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looks like pin 7 is a general ground I guess i can use that. thanks dude for saving me from a total blowup.
 
ProudSkibidiTolietAryan said:
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looks like pin 7 is a general ground I guess i can use that. thanks dude for saving me from a total blowup.
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That's not general, that's the GReeN ground, as opposed to the red or blue ground. Analog grounds may not work as digital grounds, although usually they do. On the schematic it shows pin 5 direct to ground whereas the analog grounds like pin 7 wander off to a different part of the schematic. In the official VGA pinout pin 5 is the ground for HSYNC, which means it's a quasi-analog signal, but the schematic shows it as likely to be a good ground.
 
DavidS877 said:
That's not general, that's the GReeN ground, as opposed to the red or blue ground. Analog grounds may not work as digital grounds, although usually they do. On the schematic it shows pin 5 direct to ground whereas the analog grounds like pin 7 wander off to a different part of the schematic. In the official VGA pinout pin 5 is the ground for HSYNC, which means it's a quasi-analog signal, but the schematic shows it as likely to be a good ground.
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Alright.
If i do use a PI... I want to know, can I kill the entire TV if I fuck up... Ill use the USB for sure but its good to ask
 
ProudSkibidiTolietAryan said:
can I kill the entire TV if I fuck up
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Without having a catalog of the ICs in your TC with detailed specifications that list behavior in case of misapplied voltage, it's going to be really hard to deduce. I'm a little shocked that you're concerned about this after all this experimentation that you've done. I've fried hardware before by doing edge-case things with software that were supposed to work. I was working with ARM TV boxes though, not your hardware.
 
ProudSkibidiTolietAryan said:
Alright.
If i do use a PI... I want to know, can I kill the entire TV if I fuck up... Ill use the USB for sure but its good to ask
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It's not the Pi, it would be the voltage. Keep it to 3.3v and it's very unlikely to fry anything. Interestingly the protection diodes are rated 10V, which seems to indicate they're not particularly worried also there are 100 ohm resistors on those lines to additionally protect things. Worst case you lose the VGA port which seems unlikely. The Pi getting fried(or at least crippled) would be something like grounding the 3.3v line on the pi to ground or having a Pi line set to output 3.3v and then shorted to ground.
 
analrapist said:
Without having a catalog of the ICs in your TC with detailed specifications that list behavior in case of misapplied voltage, it's going to be really hard to deduce. I'm a little shocked that you're concerned about this after all this experimentation that you've done. I've fried hardware before by doing edge-case things with software that were supposed to work. I was working with ARM TV boxes though, not your hardware.
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Well ive never interacted with the TV, I got a firmware dump of it online that I use to emulate.. So now that its time to where actually using the TV might be a viable option its scary to plan you know. But id be willing to try it
 
俺たちファームズでノッテる said:
Again I get that Wayland isn't some magic piece of software that is a one size fits all solution. But to pretend that it simply doesn't work at all I feel Is just plain ignorance considering where it was in 2018 compared to now, progress has been made. If Wayland wasn't popular or even in the state you described it not only wouldnt get mainstream adaptation no DE would make the effort to support it. Why would 80% of fedora users be using It if it didn't work? I use Wayland exclusively in my (cachyOS) setup on my rtx 3070 and it's smooth as butter (and that's after using a x11/xwayland session that didn't work). Majority of tasks I do on my system run just fine with little issue(none I'd say in my experience). And I'll argue that's the majority of people who use Wayland.
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How's the progress on clipboard and screen/program recording these days? No Vsync and uncapped frames in games? Curious to know from a Wayland user's perspective.
 
GNU Abyss said:
How's the progress on clipboard and screen/program recording these days? No Vsync and uncapped frames in games? Curious to know from a Wayland user's perspective.
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Everything works fine. Obs works like a charm. I've been able to stream my screen with full audio and video to my buddies on the trooncord. Vsycn works, but I don't use it. Uncapped frames are okay, depending on the game. I've been playing where winds meet a whole bunch, and it works like butter.
 
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Fcret said:
GNOME sucks because they want to be edgy, avant-garde visionaries redefining the desktop experience while simultaneously demanding that GNOME be the default DE for every distro. It's the same kind of hubris that leads to the demand for girldick to be normalized.

If the GNOME people were actually serious about boosting adoption among normal people, they'd have made something like KDE (and in fact, GNOME before version 3 was like that), but they only care about carrying out their desktop computing social experiments while forcing as many people as possible to take part.
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It’s not like GNOME’s actual UI design is bad. Especially if you have a single screen laptop it’s really easy to work with multiple apps.

But then they go and change the default macros without any ability to change it presumably annoy me, the last gnome enjoyer.
 
Dead Lion said:
It’s not like GNOME’s actual UI design is bad. Especially if you have a single screen laptop it’s really easy to work with multiple apps.

But then they go and change the default macros without any ability to change it presumably annoy me, the last gnome enjoyer.
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Gnome is only good for Mactards wanting to switch over to Linux. I've played around with it at times. I've always liked KDE Plasma way better. I also feel that KDE Plasma has AMAZING customization built in.
 
DavidS877 said:
As someone who has blown up a bunch of hardware. Get an actual USB to TTL adapter, ideally switchable 5v 3.3v using a real FTDI FT232 chip, they're far cheaper to blow up than a Pi, and more tolerant.
The only reason to hook ground to 3.3v would be to blow something up. Luckily pin 10 is not ground but appears to be the control voltage to enable the GPIO pins which probably would be 3.3v. So you'd still need a ground, probably pin 5.
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Right ill be using this one then most likely. Anyone wants to tell met this is the wrong cord tell me now please. But other than that this cable looks like the correct one.
 
ProudSkibidiTolietAryan said:
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Right ill be using this one then most likely. Anyone wants to tell met this is the wrong cord tell me now please. But other than that this cable looks like the correct one.
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It doesn't say which voltage it actually runs the I/O pins at. Probably 3.3v, maybe, maybe not.
Here's 2, with wires, with switchable voltage for under $2 more.
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Obviously double check the jumper before use. Use a meter if you have one.
 
hog cranking frog said:
Ran into another Wayland issue yesterday setting up a 24/7 retro weather channel server. Can't get unattended access over KDEs vnc server Krbf at auto start, have to switch to x11 for that to work. Which honestly, if I'm vncing into this server to work a gui app I might as well forward it. Another x11 win.

Literally do not care how many people use Wayland vs X11. "Oh the majority of people are just fine with Wayland" ya and the majority of people are cool with Coldplay's music. Why should I care?
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something like waypipe could potentially work if you wanted to do it under wayland. There are some other tools built around sharing applications over the network on wayland, but I don't use any of that so I can't remember the names.


I do think if someone wants to share a gui over the network that is probably one of the best use cases for x11 still.

Controlled Demolition said:
I used KDE Plasma
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The thing that made me not like kde, was trying it a while back, running their x11 session, and it ran like shit. Buggy, I had wierd issues with windows glitching out, and I think iirc it was even crashing. Since then I've completely wrote off kde as something I never want to touch. I definitely wouldn't rely on it. If they are fine putting out a desktop that runs the way it did when I used it at least.

And actually gnome has been the other thing that has given me the most issues. Although it was only gnome on certain distros. Some it worked fine, like fedora, it actually worked perfectly on that as far as I can remember. I've had it completely break on ubuntu though.

I still think cinammon, is the best option for a "full featured" desktop environment. I'm also pretty confident that by the time they move over to wayland by default, I will still be able to stay the same. They value the stability probably the most of any of the people providing a desktop. Which from what I can tell is a big reason they haven't rushed to move things over to wayland. That, and they as far as I know are probably splitting their time pretty heavily continuing to support x11 fully, while doing the work to get their wayland implementation fully functional.

I haven't check back in on the progress they've made on their wayland session. I know a year or two ago it was definitely in the early stages still. I would guess it's further along now, but probably not to where I would suggest people use it.
 
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