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Ran apt dist-upgrade, the Debian way, on an old-as-dirt Ubuntu system which is wrong apparently.

Strangely this fixed an unrelated kernel issue so now that server is running a whole lot smoother from my mistake.

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I did an upgrade on my Ubuntu server and tried to reboot, and now I can't ssh in and half my docker containers can't access each other or the data pool and everything seems fucked up. When I get to it I'll try force restarting it, otherwise it looks like I'm installing Debian on it in a hurry.

Edit: force restarting my server fixed it. weird. I might switch it to Debian one of these days anyways as it's probably about time to do a clean install to wipe out bad crap.
 
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xorg says in their irc they may make a main git branch to do some of the stuff xlibre did for them
It's the opposite. It's to create more issues for the Xlibre devs.

Epic CEO Tim Sweeney replies to a post about Linux being compatible with Adobe software:

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You don't hate Timmy Tencent enough. You think you do but you don't.
 
I did an upgrade on my Ubuntu server and tried to reboot, and now I can't ssh in and half my docker containers can't access each other or the data pool and everything seems fucked up. When I get to it I'll try force restarting it, otherwise it looks like I'm installing Debian on it in a hurry.

Edit: force restarting my server fixed it. weird. I might switch it to Debian one of these days anyways as it's probably about time to do a clean install to wipe out bad crap.
Funny, I recently had something similar with my Bookworm server and instead of upgrading moved to Ubuntu 24.04 + Pro to not think about that for a while.
 
Funny, I recently had something similar with my Bookworm server and instead of upgrading moved to Ubuntu 24.04 + Pro to not think about that for a while.
oh so its a the grass is less spooky on the other side sort of thing

I'll leave it then, everything is fine now
 
I did an upgrade on my Ubuntu server and tried to reboot, and now I can't ssh in and half my docker containers can't access each other or the data pool and everything seems fucked up. When I get to it I'll try force restarting it, otherwise it looks like I'm installing Debian on it in a hurry.

Edit: force restarting my server fixed it. weird. I might switch it to Debian one of these days anyways as it's probably about time to do a clean install to wipe out bad crap.

Funny, I recently had something similar with my Bookworm server and instead of upgrading moved to Ubuntu 24.04 + Pro to not think about that for a while.
These posts make me ask question out of interest: how many people here are creating snapshots of their system between updates? Whether it's before major updates or on a more granular basis, and is it using Snapper, Timeshift or other methods. Up until the last few months my use of Linux has been server based and I'd create a snapshot before performing a major upgrade. Ie. Fedora 40 to 41. But since I've shifted over to using Linux as a desktop OS, I've been using Snapper or Timeshift on my desktop machines, and doing hourly snapshots just in case a minor update screws something up or I do something retarded that warrants a rollback.
 
These posts make me ask question out of interest: how many people here are creating snapshots of their system between updates? Whether it's before major updates or on a more granular basis, and is it using Snapper, Timeshift or other methods. Up until the last few months my use of Linux has been server based and I'd create a snapshot before performing a major upgrade. Ie. Fedora 40 to 41. But since I've shifted over to using Linux as a desktop OS, I've been using Snapper or Timeshift on my desktop machines, and doing hourly snapshots just in case a minor update screws something up or I do something retarded that warrants a rollback.
I don't do server stuff. I do have snapshots set up though. I just take one a day, and I keep 4 of them from the last 4 days.

I don't use snapper. I just wrote a script that takes a snapshot, since the btrfs cli seems a lot faster to me than snapper. I tend to just use that. I don't do the pre and post snapshots or anything. So a simple script that does them is good enough for me. And I'm not a huge fan of timeshift, mostly because when I've messed with it I didn't like that it wasn't very granular. I suppose if it does what you want it to do then it's fine though.
 
I don't do server stuff. I do have snapshots set up though. I just take one a day, and I keep 4 of them from the last 4 days.

I don't use snapper. I just wrote a script that takes a snapshot, since the btrfs cli seems a lot faster to me than snapper. I tend to just use that. I don't do the pre and post snapshots or anything. So a simple script that does them is good enough for me. And I'm not a huge fan of timeshift, mostly because when I've messed with it I didn't like that it wasn't very granular. I suppose if it does what you want it to do then it's fine though.
Yeah, not a big fan of Timeshift to be honest. When I've set it up seems to freeze for a quite a long time taking an initial manual snapshot. Snapper paired with btrfs-assistant is a lot nicer. It's annoying both Timeshift and Snapper require specific naming of sub volumes to function.
 
These posts make me ask question out of interest: how many people here are creating snapshots of their system between updates? Whether it's before major updates or on a more granular basis, and is it using Snapper, Timeshift or other methods. Up until the last few months my use of Linux has been server based and I'd create a snapshot before performing a major upgrade. Ie. Fedora 40 to 41. But since I've shifted over to using Linux as a desktop OS, I've been using Snapper or Timeshift on my desktop machines, and doing hourly snapshots just in case a minor update screws something up or I do something retarded that warrants a rollback.

Funnily enough, I had (rsync because ext4) snapshots set up via Timeshift on Linux Mint but they ultimately ended up being useless because I fully migrated over to Fedora 43 Cinnamon after building my new PC and transferring everything important over via NFS. The cadence I had it set on was once every 3 days, but that was before I realised it didn't restore my home directory. I've got some massive SSDs in this new PC; btrfs snapshots should be really easy and I'd have the space for frequent snapshots unlike with Mint where I had a much older SSD with an ever-diminishing 500GB of storage. I was gonna wait until like March or April before Fedora 44 drops so I could get the Btrfs snapshots set up. Ideally with my home directory included.

Before fully jumping back to Linux in September 2024, I was horrible at maintaining backups. I literally distro-hopped on impulse, purging my hard drive multiple times to satisfy curiosity, and then I realised "Oh fuck, I deleted my math homework," or "Damn it, I lost that meme video I saved in the group chat" or "Oh... right... I deleted my temporary registration for my car" after the fact. Even when I started doing backups in 2024, my disks were way too damn small for any meaningful snapshots, and rsync's great but those btrfs snapshots are allegedly excellent.

Even non linux users aren't really fans of them from what I've seen

Adobe's always been a fucking shitty company to deal with. Even during the late 2000s, Adobe was loathed for absurdly expensive license costs for Photoshop, Illustrator, After Effects, Acrobat, and so on circa CS4. If you ever used Photoshop in any serious capacity, you never paid for an Adobe license out of pocket. You either got your job with a pirated copy and kept your mouth shut about it, or your work PC already came with it preinstalled due to corporate volume licensing. If you actually paid for an Adobe license out of pocket as a home consumer, you were basically a laughingstock. Unlike paying for WinRAR, there was never any honour in paying for Adobe. WinRAR never stops working after the 40 days are up, paying for WinRAR costs almost nothing if you have a job, and it's actually an endearing meme. Adobe's a multi-billion dollar company that makes huge profits despite being so predatory, and this was circa CS4-CS5 during the 2008 financial crisis, everyone was tightening belts, yet somehow Adobe could still have the nerve to charge like $500 for Photoshop.

The problem with Adobe nowadays is that they've dialled their predatory anti-consumer practices up to 11. Microsoft has tons of acrimony nowadays because of forced AI integration and their decades-long history of anti-consumer and anti-competitive practices, but Adobe beat Microsoft to the curve at least a decade earlier because of the transition from Creative Suite to Creative Cloud. Oh, you were a moron who paid $500 for a Photoshop CS4 disc at Staples almost 20 years ago? Guess what? As of 2021, the CS4 activation servers were fucking shut down so you can't even install CS4 despite spending 500 in 2008 dollars, so you lost even more money on it adjusted for inflation. The worst part is, even with that knowledge, there's no incentive to migrate from Photoshop to a different program because warez are omnipresent on Windows.

There ain't any worthwhile alternatives to Photoshop. Paint.NET doesn't even count because it's basically just MS Paint + layers, blurs, and extensions. GIMP can come within 80% of Photoshop, but the UX is fucking awful no matter what version you run and all the equivalent tools are objectively worse (i.e. lasso/path tool <<< pen tool). Photopea is almost good enough, but it frequently comes up short in edge cases, and its pricing is fucking awful too. Not Adobe tier awful, but unforgivably bad when trying to create a Photoshop alternative. Video editing at least has a tangible use case because of DaVinci Resolve and Kdenlive; image manipulation doesn't have anything that comes close.
 
stumbled onto this random video. Of this guy going over flashing coreboot + me cleaner.


There ain't any worthwhile alternatives to Photoshop. Paint.NET doesn't even count because it's basically just MS Paint + layers, blurs, and extensions. GIMP can come within 80% of Photoshop, but the UX is fucking awful no matter what version you run and all the equivalent tools are objectively worse (i.e. lasso/path tool <<< pen tool). Photopea is almost good enough, but it frequently comes up short in edge cases, and its pricing is fucking awful too. Not Adobe tier awful, but unforgivably bad when trying to create a Photoshop alternative. Video editing at least has a tangible use case because of DaVinci Resolve and Kdenlive; image manipulation doesn't have anything that comes close.
I've heard a lot of people really like krita. It was mentioned either here or the open source thread. But I've seen people using it quite a bit, and it does seem to be the thing people really like to use outside of photoshop now days. Of course the people that already learned how to use gimp just use gimp still. But from what I've seen krita does seem pretty decent.
 
Funnily enough, I had (rsync because ext4) snapshots set up via Timeshift on Linux Mint but they ultimately ended up being useless because I fully migrated over to Fedora 43 Cinnamon after building my new PC and transferring everything important over via NFS. The cadence I had it set on was once every 3 days, but that was before I realised it didn't restore my home directory. I've got some massive SSDs in this new PC; btrfs snapshots should be really easy and I'd have the space for frequent snapshots unlike with Mint where I had a much older SSD with an ever-diminishing 500GB of storage. I was gonna wait until like March or April before Fedora 44 drops so I could get the Btrfs snapshots set up. Ideally with my home directory included.

Before fully jumping back to Linux in September 2024, I was horrible at maintaining backups. I literally distro-hopped on impulse, purging my hard drive multiple times to satisfy curiosity, and then I realised "Oh fuck, I deleted my math homework," or "Damn it, I lost that meme video I saved in the group chat" or "Oh... right... I deleted my temporary registration for my car" after the fact. Even when I started doing backups in 2024, my disks were way too damn small for any meaningful snapshots, and rsync's great but those btrfs snapshots are allegedly excellent.
I'm not too concerned about my home directory and don't bother snapshotting it. Most of my data is stored on my TrueNAS server which is set up as a RAIDZ2. The most important data from there I back up to the cloud on an hourly basis.
 
stumbled onto this random video. Of this guy going over flashing coreboot + me cleaner.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Sg9qJ029KRg

I've heard a lot of people really like krita. It was mentioned either here or the open source thread. But I've seen people using it quite a bit, and it does seem to be the thing people really like to use outside of photoshop now days. Of course the people that already learned how to use gimp just use gimp still. But from what I've seen krita does seem pretty decent.
Ive seen the source code to American Megatrend at least a UEFI version during the windows 7 era through when it got leaked multiple times and have the buildtools. There is no spyware sadly. I have it on my FTP rasberry pi which I may plug up one day again(Of course I dont port forward it) and take a look of it. But mainly the thing about AMI is that they don't force there customers(Dell, leveno every motherboard maker etc) to properly implement there UEFI firmware and NOT add there vendor junk.
I still REALLY support coreboot because having a alternative is ALWAYS better than None. But I really doubt there is a backdoor in the NEWEST version of American megatrends. but INTEL ME? that's another story.

Cool enough they use TWO of the same compilers, one a x86 version and one a x64 version and merge the outputs together to create the final file.
 
how many people here are creating snapshots of their system between updates
In almost twenty years of continuous Linux usage, I have never once snapshotted a system before updates. Admittedly, the distro I've done this most with is Debian, which is piss easy to reinstall if there's an issue. I managed to back Gentoo into a corner once where it didn't like what I was doing with it. But that's the one problem I've had in a decade. Not quite 15 years ago, I ran a dist-upgrade on sid that borked it. I forget the context. But that will give you a notion of how hard the average distro is to foul up this badly. IDK how much these system snapshots cost people in terms of time, but I'm willing to bet that in all but the most pathological cases, it's just easier to reinstall if something goes sideways.
 
IDK how much these system snapshots cost people in terms of time, but I'm willing to bet that in all but the most pathological cases, it's just easier to reinstall if something goes sideways.
As long as they’re using a modern CoW file system both taking a snapshot and restoring one is instantaneous.
 
Linux Italian Man drops another banger.


Pretty insightful, actually. I've never considered using one of these "lower level" kinda distros because of how involved you have to be in the process. Again, I get paid to fix shit on Linux so when I get home, I want something that Just Works®.

It's why I find it kinda hard to watch DT's videos, beating off to CLI commands and window tiling managers.

Having said that, I'd favor Slackware over Gentoo.
 
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Having said that, I'd favor Slackware over Gentoo.
My experience trying slackware was slackware is a lot harder to run than gentoo. Unless everything you want to use happens to be in their repos. For me almost nothing I wanted to use was packaged by them. So I had to deal with it myself, and it made it pretty painful to run. And arch is a breeze compared to slackware. Arch basically is a just works distro in comparison. It just doesn't have much installed by default, and you install what you want to use. That's basically all arch is, a distro with a bare bones set of packages to get you booted, that you fill in with things that fit your use case. And it follows the upstream packages fairly closely.

That, and if you are used to how any of the "modern" distros do things. Like I would consider debian modern even though it's close to the same age as slackware, because it's changed over time. It will take some adjustment because slackware does things in a way that more closely resembles the BSD's than any linux distro you more commonly see used. This isn't really a big deal, but it's something worth knowing before going in.


Edit: to avoid a double post.


I saw this an hour or so ago. Watched it. Definitely worth the watch. As the title says the neofetch dev became a farmer.

Basically he read the bible for the first time. Found god, realized he was living a life of sin, and went out to change his life. Took up farming. Kind of a nice story actually.

The link to his blog.

 
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My experience trying slackware was slackware is a lot harder to run than gentoo. Unless everything you want to use happens to be in their repos. For me almost nothing I wanted to use was packaged by them. So I had to deal with it myself, and it made it pretty painful to run
in my experience
>slackware stable is behind debian stable
>no dependency resolution
>oh it has it but u need third party app
>ok which one i googled it and cant find any results
>uhhh slackpkg+ or something
>install it, still annoying to use
>ok this shits too fuckin old what do i do
>oh just switch to slackware current
>install slackware current
>repos r fucking empty, almost like its not an officially supported version of the OS and is instead more of a community run thing
>fine whatever if i can at least get flatpak installed i can just run everything as a flatpak itll be fine
>flatpak isnt packaged
>google
>oh its in some random users slackbuild repo
>they forgot to pay their internet bill so their repo is dead
>switch back to gentoo
 
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