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polakrobak99 said:
I don't understand what these garbage boutique distros like Mint even do.
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Mint works, Thats what Mint does.

It's the distro for people who want to install an OS that isnt jeetdows and have it just run without a bunch of settings etc to fiddle with.

It also has a bunch of preinstalls for the normies to have what they need in a new software ecosystem instead of needing to go finding new ones.

Cinnamon also sits well between KDE and Guuuuhnome as customizable but not jank.
 
Anti Lolicon Bomb said:
Mint works, Thats what Mint does.

It's the distro for people who want to install an OS that isnt jeetdows and have it just run without a bunch of settings etc to fiddle with.

It also has a bunch of preinstalls for the normies to have what they need in a new software ecosystem instead of needing to go finding new ones.

Cinnamon also sits well between KDE and Guuuuhnome as customizable but not jank.
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How does it differ from Xfce Debian other than some nonfree codecs which can be installed by a single `curl something.sh | bash`?
 
polakrobak99 said:
If you're going to use some "just werks" Linux distro, just use Debian or Devuan (with Xfce). I don't understand what these garbage boutique distros like Mint even do.
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Hmm I dunno maybe having all the shit done out of the box for you is a nicety? I've tinkered several times with Debian and vanilla Ubuntu, and let me tell you Mint ticks all the marks Debian's meta packages miss. Debian can't even do a vanilla Cinnamon correctly, they should just introduce x-apps from the Linux Mint project as starters. Plenty of experts install a desktop distro after getting sick of chasing minimalism or getting away from the desktop-isms that do suck regardless of whatever distribution you prefer.

Also you can just install any classic WM on top of Linux Mint and then go back like it's nothing without issue.
 
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polakrobak99 said:
Xfce is a full-fledged desktop, what do you mean?
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Look, I have a soft spot for Debian, it was my first ever distribution to use Linux as a desktop. Xfce was that very first desktop environment.

I know damn well about the live desktop ISOs, tasksel, meta packages, etc.

But over time I found their defaults were either really bizarre or their versions of specific desktop components had annoying bugs that got in the way. Polkit rules for locking on suspend in XFCE on vanilla Debian was broken for some time and required manual intervention, this went on for multiple releases. The XFCE edition of Linux Mint (Ubuntu LTS) did not have any of these issues. Cinnamon's lock screen would freeze and gobble up all of the RAM in Debian 12 Bookworm, yet it worked fine on LMDE6, which is built on top of Bookworm. The KDE Plasma version on Debians 11 and 12 would often throw a bitch fit if you decided to log into an X11 session after logging out of the Wayland session, I only recall this being worse on Fedora than on Debian.
 
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polakrobak99 said:
How does it differ from Xfce Debian other than some nonfree codecs which can be installed by a single `curl something.sh | bash`?
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The following two things can be true and not conflict:
  1. It's good for sentient computer users to learn how to use a terminal to do things (whether on Linux, Windows, or Mac OS X).
  2. It's bad, indeed dangerous, for the vast majority of lusers to have to randomly copy and paste shit from tutorials (generated by indians from ChatGPT (based on regurgitated SEO-boosted tutorials written by indians at an earlier time)), to have basic computing functionality like reading recent image or video codecs just work. It's better for humanity for those lusers to be using basically anything except Windows.
 
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Cinnamon's lock screen would freeze and gobble up all of the RAM in Debian 12 Bookworm, yet it worked fine on LMDE6, which is built on top of Bookworm. The KDE Plasma version on Debians 11 and 12 would often throw a bitch fit if you decided to log into an X11 session after logging out of the Wayland session, I only recall this being worse on Fedora than on Debian.
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This is one of the many problems I have with debian. The "version freeze" they do. And refusal to patch in any bug fixes, only security fixes. It means if they just so happen to freeze on a shitty version of some software that has a bug, guess what? You are stuck with a broken version for years, or you need to use sid, or some other way of installing the program. I'm not a fan of that approach at all for a desktop os.

Also I don't really want pedophile hands touching the operating system I use, I know troons are working on all the linux distros, but I can look over that. Knowingly having Biche work for you is a lot worse.
 
Betonhaus said:
The fit and finish. Just try it for a while and you'll see the difference. Everything is chosen to be as intuitive as possible
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I've been around the block. I'm on CachyOs as a daily driver for 7+ months. Like I've seen and done what you need to do for some crazy ass distros. I'd love to have been humble enough to have tried Mint and just stuck with it Lol.

That's the beef personally with that comment. It's like holy shit. How is it "boutique"? Genuinely asking. No true Ill will.
 
俺たちファームズでノッテる said:
How is it "boutique"?
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Mint is far from ever being boutique, it's utilitarian.

"Boutique" is Manjaro, which breaks the scope of Arch Linux at the expense of its user base and the detriment to the image of Arch Linux.

Arch Linux is actually quite reliable when it isn't molested by a delicate foundation of "delayed updates".

ZorinOS isn't exactly boutique either but it's just Ubuntu GNOME with a windows-adjacent look and a weird approach to monetary support.
 
Trans Fat 41g said:
Mint is far from ever being boutique, it's utilitarian.

"Boutique" is Manjaro, which breaks the scope of Arch Linux at the expense of its user base and the detriment to the image of Arch Linux.

Arch Linux is actually quite reliable when it isn't molested by a delicate foundation of "delayed updates".
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cachyOS is way fucking better than those faggots manjaro bullshit. But I genuinely agree with everything else. Like holy shit.

Year of our Lord 26 and we beefin about Linux Mint.
 
俺たちファームズでノッテる said:
I've been around the block. I'm on CachyOs as a daily driver for 7+ months. Like I've seen and done what you need to do for some crazy ass distros. I'd love to have been humble enough to have tried Mint and just stuck with it Lol.

That's the beef personally with that comment. It's like holy shit. How is it "boutique"? Genuinely asking. No true Ill will.
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Him calling Linux Mint boutique is like a kid with a 1980s Nissan SZXW that's been riced and modded to heck and back calling a stock modern Toyota Camry "boutique"
 
Anti Lolicon Bomb said:
Mint works, Thats what Mint does.

It's the distro for people who want to install an OS that isnt jeetdows and have it just run without a bunch of settings etc to fiddle with.

It also has a bunch of preinstalls for the normies to have what they need in a new software ecosystem instead of needing to go finding new ones.

Cinnamon also sits well between KDE and Guuuuhnome as customizable but not jank.
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Speaking of normies, MichaelMJD has just dropped a new ZorinOS review.


His channel focus is all Windoze-related, so you can see how well Zorin fits with the normie, "it just works" crowd.
 
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