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I feel sure the EU would quickly adopt a version of the same law, but find a way to make it a bit harsher.The Guix Foundation is incorporated in France so I'm not even sure if they have to comply with US law at all
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I feel sure the EU would quickly adopt a version of the same law, but find a way to make it a bit harsher.The Guix Foundation is incorporated in France so I'm not even sure if they have to comply with US law at all
someone legit dmed me a few days ago saying he was switching to gentoo, immediately gave up on it because it kept glitching out, and now uses artix
Definitely, though right now the EU is busy making sure that each member country appoints unaccountable, all-powerful censors to shape public discourse theough the Digital Services Act, and that no new European tech companies are ever founded again without the backing of enormous capital through the Cyber Resilience Act. The bureaucrats have been busy little bees recently.I feel sure the EU would quickly adopt a version of the same law, but find a way to make it a bit harsher.
As much as I'm blackpilled on this stuff. I still think that is something that would get too much push back. It would be insane if they shipped locked down bootloaders on most laptops, and desktops. Especially with the kind of userbase normal computers have compared to phones.Eventually though, I suspect that locked-down bootloaders will come to regular computers next.
You won't. These laws go after the companies/organizations providing package managers, operating systems, app stores etc. Which means these are actually going to be enforced. Because they aren't going to take the risk of whatever insane fine they might get if they don't. For an end user, the only problem with not complying with be at some point figuring out how to do that, while not losing functionality. Or even figuring out how to do it (depending on what you are using).I honestly don't care if I get prosecuted for not complying with thinly-veiled surveillance laws.
ARM-based Windows computers are already like this, unfortunately. So are Chromebooks and Chromeboxes; you actually need to open up the hardware and remove a screw in order to unlock it in most cases.As much as I'm blackpilled on this stuff. I still think that is something that would get too much push back. It would be insane if they shipped locked down bootloaders on most laptops, and desktops. Especially with the kind of userbase normal computers have compared to phones.
Open Source-oids when they find out TiVoization is not some theoretical problem but a very real thing that is basically the norm in large swaths of the computing industry. Stallman has never not been vindicated, GNU know this.ARM-based Windows computers are already like this, unfortunately. So are Chromebooks and Chromeboxes; you actually need to open up the hardware and remove a screw in order to unlock it in most cases.
I don't think torpedoing your project with turd world sludge is what people meant when they said "I want some more Windows stuff", Debian.Trying to piece this together and didn't see it discussed here yet.
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Yes, Lunduke etc, but it looks like he's summarizing it correctly. This ogre has been running for the past 5 years and seems like she got lucky nobody else wanted to run this year.
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Some of the info turning up about her is that she's married to another Indian Debian developer, who had pushed for her to become a developer while attacking other developers. This turned up several times in weird schizo blogs (archive), which includes this stunning picture of the duo.
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If his explanation of the process is accurate, the only way to defeat her candidacy now is for Debian voters to vote "none of the above", instead of her as the single candidate choice. This all seems thoroughly jeetified, but I can't figure out how important it actually is to Debian.
I mean they were fine with having the literal founder of Debian, Ian Murdock, assassinated just to make sure he couldn't oppose the infestation of Debian by systemd, so......I don't think torpedoing your project with turd world sludge is what people meant when they said "I want some more Windows stuff", Debian.
It's already happened in China. I made several posts about it. The MPS in China mandated secure bootloaders which cannot be unlocked with OEM specific codes for phones, and made the mandate for laptops and PCs for commercial use soon (this year). If you don't think companies in the US are licking their chops and trying to get congress to mandate this I don't know what to say.As much as I'm blackpilled on this stuff. I still think that is something that would get too much push back. It would be insane if they shipped locked down bootloaders on most laptops, and desktops. Especially with the kind of userbase normal computers have compared to phones.
I suspect something like this is the point of the mandatory kernel-level age verification. If it's illegal to boot your operating system without personally identifying the user, well, Microsoft and Apple benefit because that's why they have online accounts in the first place, and both are basically already complying. It's zero cost for them to implement, all they need to do is remove the ability to register an account without the online component, which is something Microsoft have been trying to do for a long while anyway, and which Apple haven't yet done, but as so many of the features are tied to the online account, few users would want to circumvent the online account. Linux has nothing of the sort, even in commercial distros like Red Hat and Ubuntu, so it's a much bigger hurdle to clear.It's already happened in China. I made several posts about it. The MPS in China mandated secure bootloaders which cannot be unlocked with OEM specific codes for phones, and made the mandate for laptops and PCs for commercial use soon (this year). If you don't think companies in the US are licking their chops and trying to get congress to mandate this I don't know what to say.
im confused isnt tivoization a problem where linux is used by locked down devices, y would that affect non-tivoized devicesOpen Source-oids when they find out TiVoization is not some theoretical problem but a very real thing that is basically the norm in large swaths of the computing industry. Stallman has never not been vindicated, GNU know this.
+1, just wish it was 16:10The computer of the future is a librebooted T480 with OpenBSD, I guess.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRIM, first Bicha now Jeetcha, and down the drain we go.Why is the Debian project expected to solve a problem that is solely the result of India basically being 'The Handmaid's Tale' if it was unrealistically sexist? I would be shocked if there has not been a full on rape at a Debian conference in India.
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A chromebook/chrome-anything is a an operating system meant to boot into a browser basically. It's worse than a phone to me. As for arm based stuff going that direction, it makes sense they would do it on that (not that using a locked down bootloader makes sense, but it makes sense it would happen on an arm processor being that's what phones tend to use. I'm sure windows loves an excuse to stop the ability for the user to get rid of their shit agentic operating system.)ARM-based Windows computers are already like this, unfortunately. So are Chromebooks and Chromeboxes; you actually need to open up the hardware and remove a screw in order to unlock it in most cases.
Even if they want to. I do actually think this would be enough to finally get some kind of wider pushback. This isn't exactly a small move. Having it codified in law is a huge step over shitty companies that chosse to do it, and it's a huge step even beyond this current wave of os level age attestation.It's already happened in China. I made several posts about it. The MPS in China mandated secure bootloaders which cannot be unlocked with OEM specific codes for phones, and made the mandate for laptops and PCs for commercial use soon (this year). If you don't think companies in the US are licking their chops and trying to get congress to mandate this I don't know what to say.
"New guidelines were issued by the EPA today, explaining that old Thinkpads have environmentally dangerous levels of heavy metals in them. Officials warn that all models older than 2022 should be decommissioned and recycled. They've announced a voluntary buyback program starting next month, which will become mandatory next year."The computer of the future is a librebooted T480 with OpenBSD, I guess.
I always wondered why folks were still so loyal to ThinkPads. Yes, they were well-known for being the most Linux-compatible 20-25 years ago, but ThinkPads have sucked for the past decade."New guidelines were issued by the EPA today, explaining that old Thinkpads have environmentally dangerous levels of heavy metals in them. Officials warn that all models older than 2022 should be decommissioned and recycled. They've announced a voluntary buyback program starting next month, which will become mandatory next year."
Your comment makes it sound like locking a bootloader down is an ultimately pointless exercise. But Microsoft got everything they wanted by doing so, so it was a complete success for them despite it getting hacked 12 years later.Speaking of locked down bootloaders.