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I can see OpenBSD refusing mostly because de Raadt's a schizo. Free and Net wont even fight and are probably happy that this is happening.
If C-22 gets passed expect CSIS (En quebec, on parle "SCRS") and the lesser known CSE (CST) to fuck with de Raadt.
I have never worried much about security in my Linux install until the recent years when every soylanguage out there now has their own soypackage manager where soydevs simply soygit soypush their latest edits and the soypackage's soyversion immediately bumps up to the latest thing unverified by real engineers.
You can't escape python or rust right now in gentoo...
If you don't mind the performance hit (and compiling), you can use a vm with a different toolchain, eg; host in LLVM/GCC, and guest in musl, and you can strip python with a USE flag. Then run gvisor/bubblewrap/lxc/podman of your choice.
Also, tinyvm is a thing if qemu is too large. Of course, this may be all bullshit when people just insert malware onto the GPU.


Adelie linux is a thing but I haven't used it.
 
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Switched to Linux ~12 years back with Ubuntu 14.04 and been using Debian as my daily driver for over a decade at this point.

I've been pretty neutral on systemd though I did notice a slowdown in boot back when Ubuntu ditched upstart for it. But them bending down to age-verification laws is not acceptable. Unsurprising since it's a corpo product from RedHat but unacceptable nonetheless.

So, what do? I use Cinnamon (which is X11) and I want software to build/run as painlessly as it does on Debian.

Options I can see are the good ol' Devuan, Void Linux and Artix. MX Linux is an option too I guess, I'll remember its maintainer for generously providing a whole repo of backported packages for Debian stable.

Artix is an interesting one because I was going to switch to a proper rolling release like Arch at some point (been using Debian Testing/Sid). But the website could be better (Debian wiki looks better honestly) and there's no guarantee it will be alive after 10 years unlike Devuan for example which has stood the test of time.
MX is probably your best bet for a just werks non-systemd distro. It doesn't get mentioned too often, but it is easily as popular as Mint and has a far better UX/UI IMO. If you'd like to take things a step further, you can also try its sister distro antiX, which is the most staunchly anti-systemd distro you will find anywhere, and given its obvious politics, I doubt they'd ever implement age verification. MX and antiX share devs and a lot of the custom programs from one end up in the other, though AFAIK since they use nothing from the systemd stack, you can only use WMs on antiX and not full DEs, nor can you use Wayland on it. AntiX has been around since 2007 and MX since 2014 and they both have a decently large, dedicated dev team, so I doubt they're going anywhere. Both have a great user experience out of the box, though antiX is slightly more hacky than MX. I can strongly vouch for antiX though, the peeps behind it are idealists who will not buckle to anti-user niggardry like age verification. And of course, I can't go without recommending the best distro ever: GNU Guix System.
 
I can see OpenBSD refusing mostly because de Raadt's a schizo. Free and Net wont even fight and are probably happy that this is happening.
Free and Net would take the position that, "UMM ACTUALLY IT WAS ALWAYS THE INTENTION OF THE ORIGINAL UNIX CREATORS TO HAVE A BIRTH DATE FIELD FOR ACCOUNTS BUT THE LIMITATIONS OF THE PDP-11 PREVENTED IT THEREFORE WE ARE JUST CORRECTING PAST DESIGN OVERSIGHTS"
The mailing lists for all three are mostly "fuck that" and "let's see them enforce it" so far. 🌈

The biggest thread is OpenBSD's, and has this gem in it:
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The mailing lists for all three are mostly "fuck that" and "let's see them enforce it" so far. 🌈
I expect by the end of the decade that you shall find in order to not use age verification OSes to require downloading TOR for the OS, and to get someone to program the BIOS/SPI firmware to bypass it, and maybe also steal secure boot keys at this rate... Feels like emissions on diesels but for ITfags, and run the risk for some absurdly large, disproportionate, and rarely enforced penalty.
 
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Anyone using Waydroid on Xorg/Xlibre? How well does it integrate? Can I have something like YouTube Revanced working seamlessly on my GNU+Linux(tm) system?

Waydroid is built off Wayland, so if you're gonna be using it on anything but, you're gonna need a shim. I think Weston is the one they recommend.
 
AMD bug coping part 4
A patch seems to have finally been made for this issue, and people are having good results for it so I just spent the last 20 minutes figuring out how to apply patches to linux tkg. God I hope this works or I will be very mildly upset.

How a bug as massive as "computer will randomly freeze after 30 minutes to an hour and needs a hard reset to work again" stands around on and off for Literally Years is baffling and AMD should be ashamed of themselves for letting it stay around for that long.

Artix is an interesting one because I was going to switch to a proper rolling release like Arch at some point (been using Debian Testing/Sid). But the website could be better (Debian wiki looks better honestly) and there's no guarantee it will be alive after 10 years unlike Devuan for example which has stood the test of time.
Artix has been around for almost as long as Devuan, even longer if you count the projects before the merge into Artix, Manjaro OpenRC and Arch OpenRC. I wouldn't expect it to fail anytime soon. I think the only issue i've run across on artix is that they haven't updated mint themes in a while, so they are broken on cinnamon, but the AUR version works perfectly.
 
Niggercattle can have their privacy stripped from them for all I care.
I disagree, it would be awesome if everyone collectively used privacy-respecting free & open source software and hardware. St. IGNUicus, forgive those normalgroids for they know not what they do.

The Four Essential Freedoms of Software is simple enough I wager most people would agree that's how things should be, only problem is after the RMS TedTalk or whatever they'd immediately go back to using proprietary JustWerks(TM) trash like an iPhone to FaceTime their family and an Xbox to play games with their friends, because they'd have to be some degree of asocial not to. I think that's part of why FOSS supporters are smelly nerds and never some gigachads/gigastacies who are "just noticing things". Except for me and whomever is reading this, of course :v)
 
I disagree, it would be awesome if everyone collectively used privacy-respecting free & open source software and hardware. St. IGNUicus, forgive those normalgroids for they know not what they do.

The Four Essential Freedoms of Software is simple enough I wager most people would agree that's how things should be, only problem is after the RMS TedTalk or whatever they'd immediately go back to using proprietary JustWerks(TM) trash like an iPhone to FaceTime their family and an Xbox to play games with their friends, because they'd have to be some degree of asocial not to. I think that's part of why FOSS supporters are smelly nerds and never some gigachads/gigastacies who are "just noticing things". Except for me and whomever is reading this, of course :v)
A big part of it is that Windows still dominates most people's work computers, as it is people's employers that determine what OS they install on their PCs for their employees. You have to use the software that your employer picks for you, and many proprietary programs that are exclusive to certain companies are only compatible with Windows.

As I said before, if a Linux build could market itself more to the corporate world, you would see more widespread adoption among the average user because of all of the people that many large companies employ. However, since Linux is almost exclusively relegated to the private-user market, it is still going to be a curiosity in the eyes of most people.
 
So, what do?
Someone on the Mandriva forums compiled a list (unverified) of distros without systemd:

BSD:
FreeBSD
OpenBSD
NetBSD
GhostBSD
DragonFly BSD
HardenedBSD

Linux:
ROSA linux
OSNova linux
Devuan
Omarchy
Antix
Artix
Void
Bazzite
EndeavourOS

PCLinuxOS
Vendefoul
Calculate
Slackware
Gento
Alpine

Hopefully one of them is a good fit... Mandriva themselves chose option 3 and forked systemd to take out the most egregious shit: No word yet on age verification, they're still pondering the crystal ball.

Edit: I guess you could try bolting Mandriva's systemd into your system, but that sounds like a job for someone smarter than I.
Edited for accuracy from @Max Weber
 
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I disagree, it would be awesome if everyone collectively used privacy-respecting free & open source software and hardware. St. IGNUicus, forgive those normalgroids for they know not what they do.

The Four Essential Freedoms of Software is simple enough I wager most people would agree that's how things should be, only problem is after the RMS TedTalk or whatever they'd immediately go back to using proprietary JustWerks(TM) trash like an iPhone to FaceTime their family and an Xbox to play games with their friends, because they'd have to be some degree of asocial not to. I think that's part of why FOSS supporters are smelly nerds and never some gigachads/gigastacies who are "just noticing things". Except for me and whomever is reading this, of course :v)
I think of it along the lines of this great example from Uncle Ted (key point underlined):
Uncle Ted said:
126. Let us explain why technology is a more powerful social force than the aspiration for freedom.

127. A technological advance that appears not to threaten freedom often turns out to threaten it very seriously later on. For example, consider motorized transport. A walking man formerly could go where he pleased, go at his own pace without observing any traffic regulations, and was independent of technological support-systems. When motor vehicles were introduced they appeared to increase man’s freedom. They took no freedom away from the walking man, no one had to have an automobile if he didn’t want one, and anyone who did choose to buy an automobile could travel much faster and farther than a walking man. But the introduction of motorized transport soon changed society in such a way as to restrict greatly man’s freedom of locomotion.

When automobiles became numerous, it became necessary to regulate their use extensively. In a car, especially in densely populated areas, one cannot just go where one likes at one’s own pace one’s movement is governed by the flow of traffic and by various traffic laws. One is tied down by various obligations: license requirements, driver test, renewing registration, insurance, maintenance required for safety, monthly payments on purchase price. Moreover, the use of motorized transport is no longer optional. Since the introduction of motorized transport the arrangement of our cities has changed in such a way that the majority of people no longer live within walking distance of their place of employment, shopping areas and recreational opportunities, so that they HAVE TO depend on the automobile for transportation. Or else they must use public transportation, in which case they have even less control over their own movement than when driving a car.

Even the walker’s freedom is now greatly restricted. In the city he continually has to stop to wait for traffic lights that are designed mainly to serve auto traffic. In the country, motor traffic makes it dangerous and unpleasant to walk along the highway. (Note this important point that we have just illustrated with the case of motorized transport: When a new item of technology is introduced as an option that an individual can accept or not as he chooses, it does not necessarily REMAIN optional. In many cases the new technology changes society in such a way that people eventually find themselves FORCED to use it.)

If they don't take your old, freedom-respecting tech from you by force, they will simply make it a massive pain in the ass to live your day-to-day life until you're beaten into submission. Like, think about all the stupid shit in everyday life that requires a smartphone with Internet access (e.g. checking in for fucking appointments, email confirmations, etc.)

Edit: here's another good one:
Uncle Ted said:
152. Generally speaking, technological control over human behavior will probably not be introduced with a totalitarian intention or even through a conscious desire to restrict human freedom. [28] Each new step in the assertion of control over the human mind will be taken as a rational response to a problem that faces society, such as curing alcoholism, reducing the crime rate or inducing young people to study science and engineering. In many cases there will be a humanitarian justification.

For example, when a psychiatrist prescribes an anti-depressant for a depressed patient, he is clearly doing that individual a favor. It would be inhumane to withhold the drug from someone who needs it. When Parents send their children to Sylvan Learning Centers to have them manipulated into becoming enthusiastic about their studies, they do so from concern for their children’s welfare. It may be that some of these parents wish that one didn’t have to have specialized training to get a job and that their kid didn’t have to be brainwashed into becoming a computer nerd. But what can they do? They can’t change society, and their child may be unemployable if he doesn’t have certain skills. So they send him to Sylvan.

"THINK OF THE CHILDREN" legislation is so prevalent because it works. And it's always incremental—stupid, inconvenient, seemingly harmless "Are you 18+?" popups eventually become photo ID verification and goy shuffles.
 
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Am I retarded or is Wayland a huge pain in the ass? I'm sure it's just that I'm retarded but nothing seems compatible with it and it's really annoying having to rearrange my application windows every time I open a program and it spawns halfway off the screen.
 
Am I retarded or is Wayland a huge pain in the ass? I'm sure it's just that I'm retarded but nothing seems compatible with it and it's really annoying having to rearrange my application windows every time I open a program and it spawns halfway off the screen.

Do yourself a favor and install XLibre's X-Server, ignore all the propagandists who tell you X11 is dead in the water.
 
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