The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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Hypothetically, but if Microsoft gets new management and goes "fuck it" and releases a version of Windows so stripped down that you can use it headless or even port KDE and Cinnamon to it (but still using the NT kernel and having full support for window apps) would anyone here try it?

If Fortnite works with it than sure.

 

[Paul Revere Pantry Raider]

No and I was a crazy schizo who ran KDE over Mac OS X 10.2, it took a day and a half to build.

OuroborosX was a hell of a drug.

 

[The Enola Gay]

Hypothetically, but if Microsoft gets new management and goes "fuck it" and releases a version of Windows so stripped down that you can use it headless or even port KDE and Cinnamon to it (but still using the NT kernel and having full support for window apps) would anyone here try it?

No. I have enough problems without having to juggle Microsoft's problems on top of them. Abandon ship.

 

[Akerman]

If this had been viable with KDE 3 in the QT 3 era you would have been able to mix the best spatial/navigational file manager that ever existed right into your Windows XP environment and natively copy files from your local Windows file system to SFTP or WebDAV servers.

Indeed KDE 3.x was great, I tried daily driving the Trinity Desktop, but Konqueror is completely broken on it and the DE itself while usable to some degree is just not maintained enough in other places to be fully daily drivable without headache. It's a damn shame because the form factor of TDE is exactly what I personally want out of a desktop. I don't need anything more than that. Plus I am super nostalgic for KDE 3, it was my first DE I ever used all the way back in elementary school. They ran all the school computers on Kubuntu, and taught us libre software on it like GIMP. I suspect it was some kind of FSF funded free software education initiative though I am not sure.

 

[Dread First]

I suspect it was some kind of FSF funded free software education initiative though I am not sure.

The rule of thumb is that any country with a history of socialist and/or communist rule eventually became amenable to GNU/Linux. Nowadays, we have the EU pivoting to Linux for the sake of data sovereignty. Before then, licensing and hardware costs made Windows and OSX untenable. The FSFLA had tons of success in South America pushing the cause forward, largely due to anti-imperialist rhetoric and the pragmatic arguments surrounding cost/benefit and reducing dependencies on US firms. As an example: Canaima is the state-funded Linux distro used in Venezuelan schools, government offices, and so on. Similar stuff happened in Brazil and Cuba.

 

[SchizoDaemon]

Indeed KDE 3.x was great, I tried daily driving the Trinity Desktop, but Konqueror is completely broken on it and the DE itself while usable to some degree is just not maintained enough in other places to be fully daily drivable without headache. It's a damn shame because the form factor of TDE is exactly what I personally want out of a desktop. I don't need anything more than that. Plus I am super nostalgic for KDE 3, it was my first DE I ever used all the way back in elementary school. They ran all the school computers on Kubuntu, and taught us libre software on it like GIMP. I suspect it was some kind of FSF funded free software education initiative though I am not sure.

It is a similar situation with Gnome 2.X and Cinnamon. I really liked Gnome 2.X but Mate doesn't seem to feel right. Cinnamon has loads of weird oversights e.g. the sound settings can be opened multiple times.

 

[Dread First]

It is a similar situation with Gnome 2.X and Cinnamon. I really liked Gnome 2.X but Mate doesn't seem to feel right. Cinnamon has loads of weird oversights e.g. the sound settings can be opened multiple times.

Linux Mint MATE is the only MATE implementation that's actually GOOD... because it feels EXACTLY the way that Linux Mint 11 and Linux Mint 12 did during the twilight years of GNOME 2.32. As to Cinnamon, it's an incomplete hard fork. Like you still need SOME GNOME apps to properly fill out the user experience. Mint and Fedora have the best Cinnamon implementations.

 

[acid_ra1n]

Bout to force Linux on another unsuspecting "can you remove virus from my old computer" person

 

[SCV]

Linux Mint MATE is the only MATE implementation that's actually GOOD... because it feels EXACTLY the way that Linux Mint 11 and Linux Mint 12 did during the twilight years of GNOME 2.32. As to Cinnamon, it's an incomplete hard fork. Like you still need SOME GNOME apps to properly fill out the user experience. Mint and Fedora have the best Cinnamon implementations.

Is MATE entirely free of GNOME? I ask because I would think most non-insane-trannies would be trying to drop GNOME entirely and I wouldn't want to recommend a relative Mint with a bad DE choice.

 

[Dread First]

Is MATE entirely free of GNOME? I ask because I would think most non-insane-trannies would be trying to drop GNOME entirely and I wouldn't want to recommend a relative Mint with a bad DE choice.

MATE was always a wholly hard fork of GNOME 2.32. Absolutely everything in MATE is 1:1 with GNOME 2.32, with all applications being renamed to avoid conflicts with later GNOME software. Cinnamon started off as a soft fork of GNOME Shell until the Mint team decided to make the fork hard in the mid-to-late 2010s, which is why Cinnamon itself is relatively incomplete compared to MATE

 

[SchizoDaemon]

Linux Mint MATE is the only MATE implementation that's actually GOOD... because it feels EXACTLY the way that Linux Mint 11 and Linux Mint 12 did during the twilight years of GNOME 2.32. As to Cinnamon, it's an incomplete hard fork. Like you still need SOME GNOME apps to properly fill out the user experience. Mint and Fedora have the best Cinnamon implementations.

Yep. I've only used Cinnamon on Arch and Debian and Debian just defaults everything to Gnome apps so you have this weird half Gnome / Half Cinnamon. Arch is much better IMO. I prefer to avoid anything based on Ubuntu.

 

[Ahriman]

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[Ferryman]

Plus I am super nostalgic for KDE 3, it was my first DE I ever used all the way back in elementary school. They ran all the school computers on Kubuntu, and taught us libre software on it like GIMP. I suspect it was some kind of FSF funded free software education initiative though I am not sure.

My nigga. Back in the olden days (2007), elementary had Edubuntu on all the workstations, and we would fuck around with basic C programs in informatics class. I could not tell you what DE it ran, I just remember immediately recognizing the Ubuntu color palette when I rediscovered Linux way later. Cool stuff!

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Bout to force Linux on another unsuspecting "can you remove virus from my old computer" person

I can already foresee the questions that will be asked

• can i see my documents/pictures?
• can i go on the internet?
• Where is Google/IE?
• Where is Microsoft [insert document program here]?
• Why does the start menu look weird?
• Can i install [insert random windows-only program here]?
• Why should i use this if it's not like Windows?
• Can't you just give me Windows?

Been there, done that. I 100% feel for you.

 

[The ATF Disliked That]

I can already foresee the questions that will be asked

• can i see my documents/pictures?
• can i go on the internet?
• Where is Google/IE?
• Where is Microsoft [insert document program here]?
• Why does the start menu look weird?
• Can i install [insert random windows-only program here]?
• Why should i use this if it's not like Windows?
• Can't you just give me Windows?

Been there, done that. I 100% feel for you.

I was sort of like this (only for a few of these) when I made the switch to Linux, but once it clicks, it's so much easier, liberating, and just so much of relief when things are working how an operating system should be working.

The funniest one that I always hear is: "Will I lose my email account?" or something along those lines. Some Boomers I know have their emails still tied to their old ISPs (apparently this was a thing back in the early 2000s) and they just never switched their emails to something more proper.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Some Boomers I know have their emails still tied to their old ISPs (apparently this was a thing back in the early 2000s) and they just never switched their emails to something more proper.

I once fixed a Win7 computer for a boomer who was still using AOL. Like the actual "Installed from a CD" AOL program.

 

[Hakase Shinonome]

Some Boomers I know have their emails still tied to their old ISPs (apparently this was a thing back in the early 2000s)

Still very much a thing, by the way. Always funny to see @aol.com or @yahoo.com or some shit like that. I know Derek Savage has an @yahoo.com e-mail for professional enquiries.

 

[acid_ra1n]

I can already foresee the questions that will be asked

• can i see my documents/pictures?
• can i go on the internet?
• Where is Google/IE?
• Where is Microsoft [insert document program here]?
• Why does the start menu look weird?
• Can i install [insert random windows-only program here]?
• Why should i use this if it's not like Windows?
• Can't you just give me Windows?

Been there, done that. I 100% feel for you.

I have a couple reasons for doing this
>woman it's for has bsd opsec so she needs newest OS with security patched
>old laptop so 11 isn't an upgrade path
>it's already kaput due to viruses guy says it won't boot into Windows anymore
>I'm lazy and don't wanna fuck around with 10
So she'll just have to figure out linux mint I'm not gonna hack up a windows install for her

 

[Akerman]

The rule of thumb is that any country with a history of socialist and/or communist rule eventually became amenable to GNU/Linux.

For me I think it was more that the rural school I went to was dirt poor, reflecting much of the student body and the region it is located in. That, plus a strong willingness to go the extra mile with a more unconventional, inconvenient but ultimately more accessible approach in order to get any computers at all and at least some software education provided for the kids. I am very grateful for it, though. I've used much of the software I was introduced to at that time since then, like GIMP which I think I would have had a harder time getting used to if I was more used to Adobe.

 

[acid_ra1n]

I once fixed a Win7 computer for a boomer who was still using AOL. Like the actual "Installed from a CD" AOL program.
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my moms ebay account got hacked and i had to actually call ebay to get it restored
they said what email is it tied to and i kept trying emails and eventually asked her "whats the oldest email you have"
she says oh yeah its a mindspring, so i told the ebay people it and they were able to fix the account