The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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gamers dont even think about their c compiler
how r u gonna inch out every frame of ur rtx 5090 rgb edition if u dont optimize ur c compiler
Gamers should shut the fuck up and just play their stupid games instead of acting that they're oh so superior because they use Linux now. It's the most obnoxious personality latching onto the most obnoxious topic resulting in the single worst midwit shithead in modern history. They should be forever grateful to Valve as without a multi-million dollar corporation Linux would never have this level of plug and play for Windows games, since without them Wine team would still be sitting on their thumbs and doing nothing.

Shit, I 100% agree with Linux users that gamers should be beaten to death with a steel pipe. They cannot appreciate anything, they're constantly unappeased and greedy, and they always want more. They're not content that Windows is no longer the only option for them, they now want Linux to be better than Windows, and they'll do their damn best to let the entire world know about it that they want more and more for nothing forever to the point where the only way to escape their screeching is to cut your Internet cable and run off to the woods.

Complete and utter nigger cattle that should be forced into the most niggerlicious walled garden known to man and stay the fuck away from the x86 PC realm. Fuck gamers. Playing with toys is not a personality, grow up.
 
Gamers should shut the fuck up and just play their stupid games instead of acting that they're oh so superior because they use Linux now. It's the most obnoxious personality latching onto the most obnoxious topic resulting in the single worst midwit shithead in modern history. They should be forever grateful to Valve as without a multi-million dollar corporation Linux would never have this level of plug and play for Windows games, since without them Wine team would still be sitting on their thumbs and doing nothing.

Shit, I 100% agree with Linux users that gamers should be beaten to death with a steel pipe. They cannot appreciate anything, they're constantly unappeased and greedy, and they always want more. They're not content that Windows is no longer the only option for them, they now want Linux to be better than Windows, and they'll do their damn best to let the entire world know about it that they want more and more for nothing forever to the point where the only way to escape their screeching is to cut your Internet cable and run off to the woods.

Complete and utter nigger cattle that should be forced into the most niggerlicious walled garden known to man and stay the fuck away from the x86 PC realm. Fuck gamers. Playing with toys is not a personality, grow up.
i have a similar opinion to you on gamers lol im always thankful my autism is computers and not gaming
 
Also you can just statically link everything, no?
adds the right shortcuts
Don't we have the solution to this by using .desktop files. Which, I do admit, are kind of scattered.

does whatever else is needed to get the software on the machine
That's literally what a fucking package manager does for you, dipshit.

How do you package your software so that you can distribute it across the entire Linux ecosystem without having to dedicate your time to cater to every separate distro separately.
Flatpak/AppImage. I haven't had a single fucking issue with it and anyone claiming otherwise can suck my ass.

what is the best linux distro if im a complete retard who makes linux my personality but suck at computers
Ubuntu.
 
Thinking of trying tiling window managers again. I miss the power and control that they made me feel.

I messed around with awesome, switched to qtile and tried i3 for a time, all near/post-covid.

It's been a while since I used awesome, but I remember it being a good starting point, although I have little to no experience with Lua.

Qtile was great, config in Python, which I'm most comfortable with. I even made my own widget to control the LEDs on my keyboard. I had 9 desktops, one for each numerical key, and they would swap colors depending on if the desktop had windows. It felt like you could do a lot. I had a dedicated icon on the task that would play a loud brap sound with reverb if you clicked on it. I got a lot of laughs from that. :)

I appreciated i3's brutal minimalism and default config, but I'll admit that I wasn't fond of it's weird, niche config syntax. It also felt like it was missing features out of the box, I think it had to do with taskbar icons/features.

I've lost all these config since then, and nowadays I just use my work laptop with Win11 + WSL setup. Everyday I miss things that I could do in Linux or specifically with one of those WMs:
  • A constant label telling me which desktop I am on, on the taskbar
  • Keybind to jump to the Nth desktop
  • Keybinds to immediately send the active window to the Nth desktop
  • Mechanism/hook to force windows of certain app to open in specific desktop
  • Tiling behavior, with keybind to toggle floating window
Can't exactly tinker too much with my Win11 because it's my work PC and we all have to have identical setups, but I have my own laptop with Mint that I haven't used much.

Whats the current consensus or tier list of the best tiling window managers?
 
Whats the current consensus or tier list of the best tiling window managers?
Plain and simple Hyprland. Made by Vaxry, who's hated by faggots and troons, so no troon infestation to speak of at least.

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In unrelated news: I've been experimenting with GOG offline installers to see how "complete" they truly are (re: will I need to grab extra shit via winetricks or protontricks?). Long story short: Hitman: Codename 47's offline installer is rubbish. Fallout: New Vegas, Deus Ex: GOTY, The Witcher: Enhanced Edition - Director's Cut, and Hollow Knight all seemingly work flawlessly.

I've also elected to eschew stuff like Heroic, Lutris, Bottles, WineGUI, and other such front-ends for managing my prefixes wholesale. Instead, I'm going back to basics with umu-launcher - itself a pure CLI tool that stuff like Heroic, Lutris, and Bottles paper over with their own abstractions. Honestly? Pretty illuminating to actually run an offline GOG installer in such a manner.

I'm sure other people already know how to do the shit I'm talking about, and probably in more efficient ways. This post ain't for those people; it's for turbospeds like me who find it really crap and sorta unrelaxed about how the solution to any mild-to-moderate problem is "download and install this GUI front-end that may or may not be orphaned or worse, vibe-coded." You'd be surprised how far you can get with just a text console, an editor, and a script. Don't be a retard and follow what I do verbatim, but if you can pick up the technique and successfully apply it, more power to ya.

Right out the gate, I could already tell how ugly running it straight out of the terminal will get. Using Hollow Knight as an example.

Code:
WINEPREFIX=/games/umu-cli/HK/Prefix GAMEID=umu-367520 STORE=gog PROTONPATH="/home/dfirst/.local/share/Steam/compatibilitytools.d/GE-Proton11-7" umu-run /games/umu-cli/HK/setup_hollow_knight_1.5.12620_64bit_89718.exe

It's a horrifically long and ugly string of text, but it makes sense and I only have to do it once per game.

* Declare my WINEPREFIX path.
* Declare the GAMEID. In this case, umu-$STEAMID works quite well.
* Declare the game storefront this EXE came from
* Declare the path where pre-existing Proton versions are installed. I have GE-Proton11-7, you do you.
* Invoke umu-run and then specify the path to the offline installer's EXE like so.

Hit enter, and if all goes well, you should be greeted by the GOG installer. Next, next, accept, and then hit "exit" instead of launching upon finishing the install. You could keep treating this like an increasingly unwieldy one-shot command. OR you could set up a simple bash script to launch it for you.

First and foremost: locate the correct EXE. find is your friend. Something like find "/games/umu-cli/HK/Prefix/drive_c/GOG Games/Hollow Knight" | grep exe usually returns an output similar to the below:

Code:
/games/umu-cli/HK/Prefix/drive_c/GOG Games/Hollow Knight/Hollow Knight.exe
/games/umu-cli/HK/Prefix/drive_c/GOG Games/Hollow Knight/UnityCrashHandler64.exe
/games/umu-cli/HK/Prefix/drive_c/GOG Games/Hollow Knight/unins000.exe

The first one is what we need to write the script. Spoiler alert: I was originally doing it as a bash script that passed the one-shot command until it occurred to me that I could make the script much more readable while still retaining the "double click the executable script and away you go" functionality. What I'm sharing below is what roughly 5 minutes of LLM whispering to Qwen3.5:9b with --think=false passed in Ollama turned my original one-shot command script into.

Code:
#!/usr/bin/env bash

set -euo pipefail

PREFIX="/games/umu-cli/HK/Prefix"
GAME="/games/umu-cli/HK/Prefix/drive_c/GOG Games/Hollow Knight/Hollow Knight.exe"
PROTON="/home/dfirst/.local/share/Steam/compatibilitytools.d/GE-Proton11-7"

export WINEPREFIX="$PREFIX"
export GAMEID=umu-367520
export STORE=gog
export PROTONPATH="$PROTON"
#export MANGOHUD=1
#export PROTON_LOG=1
export DXVK_FRAME_RATE=60
export PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1
export PROTON_NO_FSYNC=1

exec umu-run "$GAME" "$@"

Beyond being more readable, it also does one thing exceptionally well: being easy to modify and troubleshoot on the fly. If my mangohud graph is basically flatter than Kansas and I'm pulling a steady 60fps, I'm golden. Comment that out. Preliminary testing shows that there ain't any egregious errors popping up in my Proton logs? Comment that line out!

The most important parts of this script are the first three lines that declare PREFIX, GAME, and PROTON paths and then the next four lines that export WINEPREFIX, GAMEID, STORE, and PROTONPATH, followed by the final line that properly invokes umu-run, targets the GAME path, and then passes all the stuff you exported. So you can easily turn the above script into something more condensed like:

Code:
#!/usr/bin/env bash

set -euo pipefail

PREFIX="/games/umu-cli/HK/Prefix"
GAME="/games/umu-cli/HK/Prefix/drive_c/GOG Games/Hollow Knight/Hollow Knight.exe"
PROTON="/home/dfirst/.local/share/Steam/compatibilitytools.d/GE-Proton11-7"

export WINEPREFIX="$PREFIX"
export GAMEID=umu-367520
export STORE=gog
export PROTONPATH="$PROTON"

exec umu-run "$GAME" "$@"

Mind you: I've had success testing out Fallout: New Vegas, Deus Ex: GOTY, and Witcher 1's GOG offline installers this way before coming to Hollow Knight like this. I can also personally attest to Hollow Knight running flawlessly under umu-launcher all the same as it would under Heroic or Steam. Successfully got up to Hornet Protector and beat her within the first hour of gameplay. Everything else before then like King's Pass, Dirtmouth, Forgotten Crossroads, False Knight, Gruz Mother, the Elder Baldur trap set by the Snail Shaman, and basically the entirety of Greenpath to that point? Child's play.

The Witcher: Enhanced Edition - Director's Cut? Same thing: the opening half hour or so where you're doing the invasion of Kaer Morhen tutorial, kill the frightener or fight Savolla, watch Leo get murdered, and then leave Kaer Morhen for Vizima. Ran perfectly, with the only jank emerging from how strangely W1's Aurora Engine gameplay and mechanics have aged with time. Fallout: New Vegas had the one-shot command script, then Deus Ex GOTY had the "condensed" script that Qwen3.5:9b --think=false turned it into, and finally W1 was where I figured out "oh shit, I can lock the framerate and disable ESYNC and FSYNC to let native Fedora NTSYNC be useful!" Come Hollow Knight? The entire process was basically perfected.

If you're intrigued and wanna see how far you get, by all means give it a fair shake. The hardest part for me was "Alright... just how do I sequence this shit?" Overcoming that meant the rest came naturally.
 
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7 page debate over the viability of Linux desktop.
Simply using a Linux desktop for over 20 years without a care in the world.
Guys, I think it's viable.

Slav, I'm sorry a Unix admin stole your gf.
 

There's no way that this Drew dork keeps a list of people he doesn't like. Grown ass man.
They all do. Remember they literally think anyone right of centre (I am bang on in the middle FFS) is basically a fascist. If you even steel man an opinion they don't like, they basically say you are a fascist. I suspect every single soundbite he has on the site is cherry picked.

These dudes are complete clowns and should be ignored.
 
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Gamers should shut the fuck up and just play their stupid games instead of acting that they're oh so superior because they use Linux now. It's the most obnoxious personality latching onto the most obnoxious topic resulting in the single worst midwit shithead in modern history. They should be forever grateful to Valve as without a multi-million dollar corporation Linux would never have this level of plug and play for Windows games, since without them Wine team would still be sitting on their thumbs and doing nothing.

Shit, I 100% agree with Linux users that gamers should be beaten to death with a steel pipe. They cannot appreciate anything, they're constantly unappeased and greedy, and they always want more. They're not content that Windows is no longer the only option for them, they now want Linux to be better than Windows, and they'll do their damn best to let the entire world know about it that they want more and more for nothing forever to the point where the only way to escape their screeching is to cut your Internet cable and run off to the woods.

Complete and utter nigger cattle that should be forced into the most niggerlicious walled garden known to man and stay the fuck away from the x86 PC realm. Fuck gamers. Playing with toys is not a personality, grow up.
Normies don't use desktop computers and most people who actually do use a desktop at home are gamers, so if Linux is to have a larger market share you need gamers. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean Linux shouldn't cater to them.
 
A lot of people just want their computers to "Just Work" (- Todd Howard), for most if not all of them that means Windows or Macs. Which is fine. With Windows and Macs, if a problem arises, odds are, it's not the user's fault, it's likely something ado with the finer inner workings of whatever shitskin or (((engineer))) wrote the code. However, with pick your favorite flavor of Linux, if something goes wrong, odds are it's your fault, and for a lot of users, that idea sets them on edge. Which is fine, a lot of people have neither the technical know-how, patience, nor risk tolerance to fiddle with and fix their machines.

That alone is enough to keep a lot of people away from Linux, the idea of actually taking ownership of their machines and resolving issues that arise because of something you may or may not have done, is inconvenient for the majority of people. Again, that's not a bad thing, that's fine, it keeps retards like me employed.
 
However, with pick your favorite flavor of Linux, if something goes wrong, odds are it's your fault, and for a lot of users, that idea sets them on edge.
No, it's not. But a community full of retards who insist it is, is what's wrong with Linux.
 
A community is a town, a social group, a church. Some Linux support discord that you got flamed in is not a community and people that bring that up show how alienated and out of touch with reality they are.

I recall buying a grill years ago, and on the box it said "Welcome to the Weber Community" and thats you people whining about the "linux community". You think the grill you bought is a community.
 
However, with pick your favorite flavor of Linux, if something goes wrong, odds are it's your fault
Ah yes, because Linux is this anomalous entity that is ruled by different rules than any other operating system. Distro maintainers or package developers never ever make any mistakes ever, there are absolutely no bugs whatsoever, and if anything happens, it's the end user's fault. That one time KDE could rm -rf your system by installing a theme? It wasn't the fault of KDE's developers who didn't add the proper safeguards, it's the user's fault for installing the theme.
That alone is enough to keep a lot of people away from Linux
I know this might be a hard pill to swallow, but most people really don't like being gaslit, and whenever they have the misfortune of interacting with the Linux community, that's the main issue. Whenever Windows or Mac fucks up, Microsoft or Apple don't try and gaslight the user into believing that they're at fault, they admit that there's an issue and try to fix it. Only on Linux users get gaslit that they're the idiots for having an issue. That's why those decades old stereotypes live on and why people are reluctant to try Linux. They don't want to be lied to over something they know damn well is not their fault.

By the way, why are you suddenly talking about Linux as if it's a competitor to Windows/Mac? I thought that it's not and anyone bringing up those comparisons here (like me) is an asshole. I don't know, maybe I'm the crazy one, as usual.
 
Elaborate, please.
What is there to elaborate? If you have an update screwing up your system because a package maintainer couldn't be bothered to do his job right, then it's literally not your fault. If you install a distro and it refuses to boot because it misconfigured something, it is not your fault. It's not that hard.

But, for some reason, the Linux community is full of retards like you who always seem to insist that everything and anything is somehow the user's fault. It's tiring. The odds indeed are that errors are more often the user's fault on Windows because of all the random crap people tend to install there.

A community is a town, a social group, a church. Some Linux support discord that you got flamed in is not a community and people that bring that up show how alienated and out of touch with reality they are.
Yeah, it's not a real community; it's a fandom full of mental cases.
 
If you have an update screwing up your system because a package maintainer couldn't be bothered to do his job right
It's your fault because you should've known that if you were to run an update at this very moment, there was this specific bug in the source code and you should've waited it out. You didn't, so it's your fault.
If you install a distro and it refuses to boot because it misconfigured something
It's your fault because you shouldn't have used this distro that's known to be problematic, instead using this other distro so it's your fault. You could go on like that, and you know damn well those are the mental gymnastics you'd be presented with where you're the crazy one.

Being constantly blamed for issues that are not your fault is infuriating, but what's really infuriating is that Linux users constantly believe two contradictory things at once, depending on what's more fitting, it's impossible to have a sane discussion with them, and every time they'll try to gaslight you into believing you're the crazy one. They're not competing with Windows/Mac and you shouldn't consider Linux as a competitor and it's their own thing that isn't meant to be Windows/Mac, but then, Linux is compared to Windows/Mac as if it was a direct competitor and if there's an occassion they can dunk on Windows/Mac being worse than Linux, they will. Or being told that there is no "Linux community" and that it's just a "loud minority" that acts like this, yet you can never find this silent majority of sane users that aren't gaslighting assholes, and no one who says that they exist can show you that they exist, so how can you be sure that you're the crazy one? The posters in this thread are guilty of this as well, but of course no one will ever admit that they're at fault, it's the natural human reaction to defend your ego.

That's the #1 reason people don't want to switch to Linux or get burnt on it. It's not that the distros are bad, or the software are bad, or whatever, it's pretty decent for what it's worth. No, it's that if anything ever goes wrong, you'll end up having to deal with people that will berate and insult you for not being like them, then being gaslit into believing that it's only you that has this problem and your perception of the Linux community is wrong. Even if you notice the exact same patterns repeating everywhere.

The Linux community is Linux's biggest enemy.
 
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