The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

He Who Points And Laughs said:
My editor of choice for large scripts is Atom
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Maybe i'm a crusty oldfag, but electron and anything built on it feels like fucking cancer. Browser apps, except you don't just use your regular browser to use it, each comes with their own uniquely broken version of the same browser you're probably already using. Just so you can poke around at javascript files to tweak things without waiting for shit to compile & link, at the cost of all the cpu & ram overhead plus whatever security issues are lurking in the various versions of chromium used.


I sort of understand the cross platform use cases, essentially if its a web app anything with a compatible browser can run it and have a fairly consistent interface across platforms, but I really don't get the rest of it.
 
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a_lurker said:
Maybe i'm a crusty oldfag, but electron and anything built on it feels like fucking cancer. Browser apps, except you don't just use your regular browser to use it, each comes with their own uniquely broken version of the same browser you're probably already using. Just so you can poke around at javascript files to tweak things without waiting for shit to compile & link, at the cost of all the cpu & ram overhead plus whatever security issues are lurking in the various versions of chromium used.


I sort of understand the cross platform use cases, essentially if its a web app anything with a compatible browser can run it and have a fairly consistent interface across platforms, but I really don't get the rest of it.
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The autocomplete-python & script plugins for Atom are very nice. 90% of the time I'll use nano, but when I'm writing a large script I use Atom. It's a time saver.
 
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I want to give manjaro a try, but for some fucked up reason my computer is refusing to boot from USB, instead dropping right into the Ubuntu boot screen (and unlock screen for the encrypted filesystem.) The BIOS is enabled to boot from USB. Any insights? Also is it possible to install manjaro from within Ubuntu without bricking my system?
 
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I want to give manjaro a try, but for some fucked up reason my computer is refusing to boot from USB, instead dropping right into the Ubuntu boot screen (and unlock screen for the encrypted filesystem.) The BIOS is enabled to boot from USB. Any insights? Also is it possible to install manjaro from within Ubuntu without bricking my system?
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Is the BIOS classic or UEFI, and how did you burn the iso to the USB flash drive?
 
I have three distros I like:

Manjaro is basically Arch Linux for those who want a less autistic experience with Arch. Recommended if you like Arch but hate how hard the learning curve of pure Arch is.

Linux Mint is basically Ubuntu with a non crap interface and access to the best parts of Debian and Ubuntu, but that also means some of it's packages can be old enough to vote.

SparkyLinux is a great gamer's choice Linux, works very hard to make Windows stuff work nice with Wine with a minimum of pain and has a custom setup installer that makes picking and choosing software easy for the noob.
 
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He Who Points And Laughs said:
Just asking because if that works, then we know the ability to boot from USB is still there.


I'd try burning it once again, so :

dd if=manjaro-xfce-18.0-stable-x86_64.iso of=/dev/? bs=4M

(/dev/? =whatever the USB drive is seen as, e.g. /dev/sdf )
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I'll try that thanks. I didn't specify a block size when I did it.
 
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Would it be some ISOs, or some USB drives? It seems to me like the latter would be the issue. I don't have time to install the shit tonight but I will report back.
 
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I think it has to do with the ISOs, as older Kali ISOs recommended using a different block size then they do today,

Kali recommends 512k for its main ISO.
 
He Who Points And Laughs said:
I think it has to do with the ISOs, as older Kali ISOs recommended using a different block size then they do today,

Kali recommends 512k for its main ISO.
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Curious as to how this works. I mean, dd just reads and writes and writes in the given block size, right? I get conceptually why this might matter especially depending on the device, and perhaps especially on the boot sector, although not really, especially, why should the ISO matter? As opposed to on the old school tapes that dd was designed for use with.

Also, dd's interface is a literal joke (on IBM) and that's just one of the things that makes Unix based as all hell.

About to try it if it works I'll reply from manjaro
 
@He Who Points And Laughs @Yotsubaaa so I tried it, it still does not work. I was able to drop into grub by fucking with BIOS boot menu but it then said that the partition was invalid. I'm thinking that the problem may be with my USB drive so I may try getting another one; however, it mounts just fine as a valid linux partition of the expected size so I'm not convinced that it's that. I'm going to try and download the "architect" image as an alternative. I want to customize the fuck out of it anyway so it's maybe the best option.
 
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Still doesn't work. Starting to be infuriating. sha1sum matches. Grub says "invalid filesystem" which is bullshit, it mounts just fine. I'm going to have to invest in another USB drive to see if that works. Unless you linuxcels have some suggestion :)
 
Hmm, that's puzzling.

How are you dd'ing it? You're doing dd if=blahblah.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M,
and not dd if=blahblah.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=4M right? (Like you're definitely writing to the USB device sdb in its entirety, and not its sdb1 or whatever partition?) That's the only thing I can think of off the top of my head that would be giving you filesystem errors on the boot. (Well, other than having a bad USB I suppose.)
 
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