The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

Spasticus Autisticus said:
Without knowing what exactly you don't like about Mint, it's hard to say what you'd like better. Mint is known as one of the more newb-friendly distros out there.
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I've already sperged about my biggest issue with Linux previously, which is how shit it is to just install programs. I was going through some of my old humble games and while some came in a .deb format, Bastion gave me just a fucking .bin and humble told me fuck all to do with it. FTL gave me a compressed file and wouldn't start because the folder needed to be in a specific location and I had to make a document a program?

I'm not asking for tech support, I just think it's fucking dumb that I have to go through so many hoops just to play a game. In windows games either come as an installable exe or in a portable folder. I don't get why devs are so adverse to that on Linux. Hell, even the .deb games didn't give me the option to install them where I wanted to.

Also, and I get this isn't Linux's fault, but having to go through terminal just to install Brave or a game is a joke. Get butthurt if you guys want for me saying that, but even in it's most basic hand-holding experience Linux is still not enjoyable for me. Sadly, I know that I have to start figuring this shit out though since Windows is turning into a joke.
 
Dr. Geronimo said:
I've already sperged about my biggest issue with Linux previously, which is how shit it is to just install programs. I was going through some of my old humble games and while some came in a .deb format, Bastion gave me just a fucking .bin and humble told me fuck all to do with it. FTL gave me a compressed file and wouldn't start because the folder needed to be in a specific location and I had to make a document a program?

I'm not asking for tech support, I just think it's fucking dumb that I have to go through so many hoops just to play a game. In windows games either come as an installable exe or in a portable folder. I don't get why devs are so adverse to that on Linux. Hell, even the .deb games didn't give me the option to install them where I wanted to.

Also, and I get this isn't Linux's fault, but having to go through terminal just to install Brave or a game is a joke. Get butthurt if you guys want for me saying that, but even in it's most basic hand-holding experience Linux is still not enjoyable for me. Sadly, I know that I have to start figuring this shit out though since Windows is turning into a joke.
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I believe most graphical environments nowadays will let you open .debs in a package manager from the context menu nowadays (and you would also be able to make a downloaded self-installer executable from its properties).

Funnily enough, the 'just giving you a .bin' way of doing things was really the more portable way to do things back in the day without building a whole bunch of installers for different package managers. I remember the old Loki games installers letting you pass in a command line variable or having an installer GUI that would let you choose where they would install to, whether that's an option with modern self-installers is another matter.
 
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Dr. Geronimo said:
Also, and I get this isn't Linux's fault, but having to go through terminal just to install Brave or a game is a joke. Get butthurt if you guys want for me saying that, but even in it's most basic hand-holding experience Linux is still not enjoyable for me. Sadly, I know that I have to start figuring this shit out though since Windows is turning into a joke.
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At the risk of getting eviscerated for wrongthink in this hallowed temple of GNU, why not just stick with Windows if it works for you? You say it's "turning into a joke" but if it let's you play your games hassle-free then surely that's a worthy trade-off?
 
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Knight of the Rope said:
At the risk of getting eviscerated for wrongthink in this hallowed temple of GNU, why not just stick with Windows if it works for you? You say it's "turning into a joke" but if it let's you play your games hassle-free then surely that's a worthy trade-off?
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I'm sure you've heard of the horrors that windows 11 is bringing right? TPM required, online account required to even make a profile. File explorer is used through Edge now lmao.

I just want a plug and play OS that respects its user and Microshit is trying too hard to be Apple
 
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Dr. Geronimo said:
I'm sure you've heard of the horrors that windows 11 is bringing right? TPM required, online account required to even make a profile. File explorer is used through Edge now lmao.
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Sure, but beyond the initial (and deserved, don't get me wrong) knee-jerk response, how much of that is really an issue for you? Do you really care that Microsoft requires TPM chips if every modern computer is going to have one of those anyway? Do you really care about whether the File Explorer is its own executable? And sure, the online account thing is fucked, but again: is that an issue you could live with if it lets you consoom your vidya?

Keep in mind too that gaming on Linux has, until recently, been relatively niche. I'd argue that if you're looking for the first-class "plug-and-play" gaming PC experience then Windows is still the way to go (at least for right now).
 
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Knight of the Rope said:
Sure, but beyond the initial (and deserved, don't get me wrong) knee-jerk response, how much of that is really an issue for you?
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Given that the writing is most definitely on the wall at this point, I'd argue that now is the time to migrate to Linux, or at least start dual-booting. If you don't have issues with Windows yet, you will. Better to already have a working setup and some experience when the time comes.
 
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tehpope said:
Release the source to windows XP and let the community develop it.
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That was already leaked
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Now I fucking hate Linux. Just broke my iPhone XR and the “No iTunes to backup data” thing is starting to bite me in the ass. I tried libimobiledevice but that sucks ass and can’t even fully backup data off of an Japanese iPhone XR.
 
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Cedric_Eff said:
Now I fucking hate Linux. Just broke my iPhone XR and the “No iTunes to backup data” thing is starting to bite me in the ass. I tried libimobiledevice but that sucks ass and can’t even fully backup data off of an Japanese iPhone XR.
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can't you run a macos vm?
 
Dr. Geronimo said:
File explorer is used through Edge now lmao.
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I see MS never learned the lessons from when it did that with IE.
Security flaws larger then goatse's asshole, among other things like antitrust lawsuits.
Knight of the Rope said:
Sure, but beyond the initial (and deserved, don't get me wrong) knee-jerk response, how much of that is really an issue for you? Do you really care that Microsoft requires TPM chips if every modern computer is going to have one of those anyway? Do you really care about whether the File Explorer is its own executable? And sure, the online account thing is fucked, but again: is that an issue you could live with if it lets you consoom your vidya?

Keep in mind too that gaming on Linux has, until recently, been relatively niche. I'd argue that if you're looking for the first-class "plug-and-play" gaming PC experience then Windows is still the way to go (at least for right now).
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TPM is normally only found on prebuilts, if you make your own PC that means slapping down additional money (no matter how "cheap" it is) to have one that will run windows. See above about Edge/IE and file explorer.
 
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Nasty SystemD bug was revealed yesterday. It's already patched, but apparently it was in there since 2015. Sounds like this particular bug can only practically be exploited locally, but still concerning to see these kind of bugs in the massive piece of software that is gobbling up Linux.
 
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419 said:
@3119967d0c vindicated once again
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The only thing I have ever heard of being added to systemd that was good was the rule where a particular Wiebetech forensic mouse jiggler being plugged in would cause the system to lock.

Of course:
  1. there's really never a legitimate reason for one of these devices to be plugged in. It should cause a shutdown
  2. and there doesn't seem to have been any serious attempt made to identify new identifiers these devices- and other similar devices- may be using. not one update to the list in 8 years. very backwards!
 
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3119967d0c said:
The only thing I have ever heard of being added to systemd that was good was the rule where a particular Wiebetech forensic mouse jiggler being plugged in would cause the system to lock.

Of course:
  1. there's really never a legitimate reason for one of these devices to be plugged in. It should cause a shutdown
  2. and there doesn't seem to have been any serious attempt made to identify new identifiers these devices- and other similar devices- may be using. not one update to the list in 8 years. very backwards!
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if udev were still a separate daemon, it's likely those rules would have been kept more up to date.
 
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