The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Cedric_Eff]

I decided to install Windows as another partition. Allocated about 64gb.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I decided to install Windows as another partition. Allocated about 64gb.

Install Wintoo... K.

 

[Cedric_Eff]

Install Wintoo... K.

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Nah I installed Windows 10 Superlite by GhostSpectre

 

[awoo]

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[Aidan]

I've already sperged about my biggest issue with Linux previously, which is how shit it is to just install programs. I was going through some of my old humble games and while some came in a .deb format, Bastion gave me just a fucking .bin and humble told me fuck all to do with it. FTL gave me a compressed file and wouldn't start because the folder needed to be in a specific location and I had to make a document a program?

I'm not asking for tech support, I just think it's fucking dumb that I have to go through so many hoops just to play a game. In windows games either come as an installable exe or in a portable folder. I don't get why devs are so adverse to that on Linux. Hell, even the .deb games didn't give me the option to install them where I wanted to.

Also, and I get this isn't Linux's fault, but having to go through terminal just to install Brave or a game is a joke. Get butthurt if you guys want for me saying that, but even in it's most basic hand-holding experience Linux is still not enjoyable for me. Sadly, I know that I have to start figuring this shit out though since Windows is turning into a joke.

>how shit it is to just install programs
>all programs listed are games
Look into lutris. It's all about your gaming grievances and ways to solve them. I've used it a bit and while it's not 100% for some of the older games I played, it's over 90% for me easily and I have so many games I'll never get through them all.

As far as using the terminal to install Brave within the context of your general sentiments so far, you sound stuck in the Windows mindset and mad that a non-Windows OS isn't 100% the same. Mint comes with a GUI package manager called "Software Manager" or something and if you don't like that then there are others you can install. On Linux (and everything but Windows) you don't default to going out to the internet to download stuff, you start by seeing if it's in your current repositories and use those.
Brave tells you how to install it from the terminal that is a one-time deal, so I don't see the problem. If you are so adamant about staying outside of the terminal they also have a link to the snaps.

I'd recommend being more open about trying new things and accepting that it's ok to fuck some stuff up on the way. The Brave thing is a total non-issue and Lutris should solve your gaming issues. Linux isn't perfect but it's leagues better than Windows for most people, you just have to remember you've basically been trained "the Windows way" your entire life and have to unlearn some of that nonsense.

 

[Ahriman]

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Anthony is a pretty good Linux ambassador, good stuff.

Wendell from Level1Techs (former TekSyndicate member) doesn't quite have the same charm, or the same gift of the gab as he does, but you can tell he's a lot more knowledgeable.

Also, daily reminder that Gentoo is a meme distro. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

 

[cockaine]

I decided to install Windows as another partition. Allocated about 64gb.

If it's Windows 10, be careful. Sometimes Windows updates will fuck over other non-ntfs partitions, although I don't think it's super common. I'm dual booting on entirely separate drives and the odd Windows update will still occasionally nuke grub, requiring me to reinstall it.

 

[Cedric_Eff]

If it's Windows 10, be careful. Sometimes Windows updates will fuck over other non-ntfs partitions, although I don't think it's super common. I'm dual booting on entirely separate drives and the odd Windows update will still occasionally nuke grub, requiring me to reinstall it.

It’s Windows 10 Superlite by GhostSpectre

 

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"Install Windows 10 Superlite by GhostSpectre!"

 

[Bongocat]

If it's Windows 10, be careful. Sometimes Windows updates will fuck over other non-ntfs partitions, although I don't think it's super common. I'm dual booting on entirely separate drives and the odd Windows update will still occasionally nuke grub, requiring me to reinstall it.

Yeah, for anybody reading
1) never dual boot on the same disk. It's a disaster waiting to happen for various unpredictable reasons.
2) If you download windows updates, opt to do it manually in a big batch once per month or so (if that's even possible anymore on windows) and remove your Linux disk from your PC before that happens (or just turn off the SATA/NVME slot in the bios).

Fuck I hate windows. I'm pretty sure they do that shit on purpose to make things more difficult.

 

[Never Scored]

It’s Windows 10 Superlite by GhostSpectre

I'm extremely interested in this for the laptop I maintain a Windows install on. Has anyone reputable tested for spyware and Trojans and whatnot?

 

[Kosher Dill]

1) never dual boot on the same disk. It's a disaster waiting to happen for various unpredictable reasons.

Dual booting on different disks is an absolute nightmare if you're on UEFI though. Really, in this age of disposable computers and infinite computing power, just run a VM or have two separate physical machines.

 

[Bongocat]

Dual booting on different disks is an absolute nightmare if you're on UEFI though. Really, in this age of disposable computers and infinite computing power, just run a VM or have two separate physical machines.

Really? I haven't had any problems with UEFI except that the boot order tends to change itself. I'm just in the habit of going into the boot screen anyway on startup now so it doesn't bother me.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Really? I haven't had any problems with UEFI except that the boot order tends to change itself.

For me it was just a mess of dueling bootloaders, bootloaders not being able to figure out how to boot something not on "their" drive, the EFI getting bloated with ghost entries, and so on.

 

[Dick Justice]

Brave tells you how to install it from the terminal that is a one-time deal, so I don't see the problem. If you are so adamant about staying outside of the terminal they also have a link to the snaps.

Everything else is right but while snaps are technically valid they're absolute cancer compared to appimages and even flatpaks. Also while Lutris requires manually syncing to your accounts on various storefronts you can still install other games by manually downloading the json configs and using those as a guide. They're not pretty but they are pretty idiot-proof.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Keep in mind too that gaming on Linux has, until recently, been relatively niche. I'd argue that if you're looking for the first-class "plug-and-play" gaming PC experience then Windows is still the way to go (at least for right now).

Proton works surprisingly well as a plug-and-play solution and there's always Lutris. Biggest problem right now is that Wine and anti-cheat software don't get along, and trying to add support for it is going pretty slow. This locks you out of a few modern games.

Plus Linux even has some advantages. Older games (like from the 90s) can be a nightmare to get working on modern systems but they usually run flawlessly in Wine.

 

[cockaine]

For me it was just a mess of dueling bootloaders, bootloaders not being able to figure out how to boot something not on "their" drive, the EFI getting bloated with ghost entries, and so on.

Glad I saw this, this was the push I needed to dual boot Windows 7 instead of 10 in the PC I'm building (just for the odd pirated game or something)

 

[Kosher Dill]

Glad I saw this, this was the push I needed to dual boot Windows 7 instead of 10 in the PC

Where are you getting that? If anything, 7 is worse than 10 in that regard.
Unless you're running some real H4RDK0RE G@M3R stuff, just put your favorite version of Windows in a VM.

 

[cockaine]

Where are you getting that? If anything, 7 is worse than 10 in that regard.
Unless you're running some real H4RDK0RE G@M3R stuff, just put your favorite version of Windows in a VM.

7 is still getting updates? And if anything, I assumed the system resource usage would be lighter.

 

[tehpope]

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