"The Metokur Effect" - My IRL Oshi / Leave My Favorite E-Daddy Alone!

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Artaius

Artaius

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Have you ever idolized somebody while growing up? Maybe had a favorite sports player, an actor from a movie or maybe one friend you had a magnetic chemistry with? If so, you get the idea. Everyone has a favorite somebody.

Before everyone had virtual anime stream wives to find an unnatural comfort in, we had idols in different places like the Sektur and in GamerGate. And as someone who just loves talking about social science a lot on the Farms, I want to talk about this social phenomena I've dubbed "The Metokur Effect"

This effect that I've always noticed has evolved in a lot of ways over the last ten years. Today I see it most prominently with 'Kiwitubers' and their devout audiences. I know this concept isn't groundbreaking by any means cause I've talked about it before with trolling communities. It's not meant to be. Dick riders existed for as long dicks existed to be ridden.

But you ever come across some strange instances of "audience affection?" Have you ever seen someone mentally bend factual reality in order to maintain an illusion without a reward? And without any direct positive feedback or praise it makes my skin crawl a little. Cause I can't understand them.

It's frightening because it's like seeing someone with no autonomy at all. And it makes me ask an absurd question: Are these people in some kind of psychosis and is the only cure electroshock?

What are some strange cases of one-sided loyalty you guys have ever seen online that made you uneasy?
 
TeaBaggins said:
Every single weird creepy parasocial relationship that comes from any YouTuber.
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I have conducted interviews with such cases and each one freaks me out.

I ask what they like about them as a person? Usually I'm told something like they're great, they're funny, they do good things.
I then pry deeper and try to get to the core of the infatuation. And from there it gets scary.

They can get aggressive really fast and lock up on you. They start using strawman arguments, start doing that thing where they bend facts and context around. Every time I would try to pry deeper "Do you know them on a personal level?" I get told no.

"What do you gain from it?" And I see them draw blanks and then revert to rage.
 
Artaius said:
I have conducted interviews with such cases and each one freaks me out.

I ask what they like about them as a person? Usually I'm told something like they're great, they're funny, they do good things.
I then pry deeper and try to get to the core of the infatuation. And from there it gets scary.

They can get aggressive really fast and lock up on you. They start using strawman arguments, start doing that thing where they bend facts and context around. Every time I would try to pry deeper "Do you know them on a personal level?" I get told no.

"What do you gain from it?" And I see them draw blanks and then revert to rage.
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I've seen it with fans of celebrities too. I also witnessed it in groups I was a part of. They'd follow a certain celebrity around, give him presents EVERY single time they went to see him, which was constantly, sometimes for days, and because he was polite and put up with their awkwardness and was nice to them, they legit thought he thought they were his friends. When he was performing in a play in a different country, they flew out to see him and went multiple days during their entire trip....all so they could meet him after the shows and get his attention for a few minutes, lol.

I considered it stalking, and this went on for years until I finally left them because they legit creeped me out with their extreme obsession. It was extremely one sided. And if me or anyone else said that they weren't his friend, they'd get angry.

It honestly turned me off majorly and made me uncomfortable just how deep their obsession, but at the same time it was hilarious because they were a bunch of middle aged single women all chasing after a gay man.
 
Artaius said:
Have you ever idolized somebody while growing up? Maybe had a favorite sports player, an actor from a movie or maybe one friend you had a magnetic chemistry with? If so, you get the idea. Everyone has a favorite somebody.
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I am jaded and pessimistic to the point where, other than a handful of exceptions, I don't seriously look up to almost anyone at this point. Sometimes those figures are also no longer alive.

Parasocial relationships never made much sense to me. Taking someone and endeavoring to emulate some admirable quality of that person is one thing, but to completely disregard one's own identity in the process and treat them as infallible is bizarre. It screams of someone who's dissatisfied with their own self, and attempts to mask it by seeking the attention of another whom they unhealthily attach to.
 
Lords Greatsword said:
I am jaded and pessimistic to the point where, other than a handful of exceptions, I don't seriously look up to almost anyone at this point. Sometimes those figures are also no longer alive.

Parasocial relationships never made much sense to me. Taking someone and endeavoring to emulate some admirable quality of that person is one thing, but to completely disregard one's own identity in the process and treat them as infallible is bizarre. It screams of someone who's dissatisfied with their own self, and attempts to mask it by seeking the attention of another whom they unhealthily attach to.
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They remind me of the stalkers who had Erotomania.
 
the metokur effect lets autists feel cool and a part of something (and that something is just dabbing on other autists for being slightly spiritually fatter)
 
Artaius said:
But you ever come across some strange instances of "audience affection?" Have you ever seen someone mentally bend factual reality in order to maintain an illusion without a reward? And without any direct positive feedback or praise it makes my skin crawl a little. Cause I can't understand them.
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A lot of these communities tend to pretend that they are welcoming and paint themselves as a morally superior figure and if they act their person they inspire to, then they can be just like their idol. That gives them the moral and dopamine urge to donate, troll, document or even wanting to be shouted out as a reward to them. They want to feel positive if it makes them better then anyone else, they need that control to be acknowledged or be a pillar in that community to fight for being an influence for the influencer.

The influencer doesn't care about them however, they know that person is that piggy bank and very loyal to the point they can use them purposely or unpurposely to push their agenda or defend them no matter what drama their content creator put themselves in. Because that sense of entitlement of wanting to defend that persons content from another party is a threat to their meaning of power and influence they have with their community.

I wouldn't call it a medakur effect rather the result of people of the internet given the illusion of thinking that social media justice is going to solve their life issues of self meaning or content with themselves. Everyone has to put someone done and praise someone for doing so to have a sense of power entitlement for everyone.
 
this has existed for as long as widely consumed mass media has been around. it's why trying to talk to boomers feels like arguing with the TV news channel they watch or tabloid they read.
 
The biggest example of this shit online is RedLetterMedia.
Their audience is so fucking captured that they will pretend that there is no dip in quality compared to when they were in their 30's, that their new videos aren't lazy and that their attitude isn't rotten.

If they started right now with the effort and attitude they have in 2025, they would never get popular, yet their audience eats up the new shit like they're blind.
 
I feel like "Daddy Jim and His Sweeties" was just a modern, much gayer version of the intense loyalty Howard Stern and Opie and Anthony fans had toward those guys in the past. To say nothing about how much of Jim himself was directly influenced by O&A.

Shit Anthony Cumia still has an army of ride or die dickriders, and he's as objectively unfunny as he's ever been.
 
FiveStarAce said:
Bro you just slapped a new Label on parasocial (virtual) relationships.
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I might have, yeah.
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I'm incapable of understanding people who form connections to their entertainment figures and seem so out numbered that I accept that I'm probably not normal.
 
During GamerGate it kind of made sense because everyone had a side to pick and IBS was addictive. We were all in it to see these retards fight and maybe there were a handful of genuine lemmings who thought their favorite internet man was God's gift to Earth.

In the 2020s it feels a lot more serious with the younger generation. I would expect a bunch of 15 year olds to act weird over some online figure. But it's not that. I'm seeing grown men between 25 to 38 act like high school girls over their favorite oshis, whichever one delivers the most content on TikTok lolcows.

It black pills me greatly and makes me worried about the future.
 
It's a normal human system that you think that the people you see frequently are your friends and family.

Some parts of our brain don't understand media.

The same thing happens with jobs and hobbies, but it's less one directional.
 
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