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Burning Fanatic said:
This will be a summarization of the details regarding ADHD's departure from the forum and coomer allegations. I feel this is helpful as some users have reacted with confusion over the ordeal, especially given how scattered the information surrounding it is. In addition, there is some rather questionable statements being made either downplaying the events or which provides misleading conclusions, like comments which incorrectly claim the concern was that she was just a coomer rather than if she was a member of a community of gooners, or statements which assert she solely left because she was banned from sending private messages.
Even if you're not familiar with ADHD, it's worth exploring since it's an entertaining story regardless. In terms of the lolcow boards, she was generally a non-contributive moderator who only would offer mundane commentary in threads or ban other members. This is an important detail to note for later. She otherwise would make insipid posts in the off topic board just acting gross or weird.
I wanted to make a thread summarizing this little debacle. It's not quite a halal thread since ADHD has decided to leave the forum, but it's not a random callout thread since it's meant to compile all the information available. I'm too stupid to speak with absolute certainty that the evidence conclusively proves she was a gooner, but I'm not dumb enough not notice this evidence is extremely suggestive of it.
The general timeline of events is as follows, with evidence supplied as necessary or possible:
1. ADHD's general presence on the main lolcow boards is either banning users or providing mundane commentary or observations. The rare instances where she provides information, it is always secondhand, primarily reposts from the Ovarit website.
2. ADHD posts a thread on the "coomer" image, a horny (as in literally horny) gooner meme, in the off topic boards.
3. Coincidentally, a thread on the "coomer" image is made in the Prospering Grounds section which examined its usage in group gooning circles on Reddit and Discord. It is composed mostly of misinformation, most notably attributing the creator of the image as the leader of these gooning circles (which was demonstrably false). This in of itself is not an admission of intentional misinformation or misdirection. However, threads which focus on communities and threads which examine aspects of the gooner community are prone to false flags and misdirection by sockpuppets of those who are within these communities. While the thread is rightfully criticized, it also suddenly gets moderators posting literal nonsense. This suggests members of these gooning circles were aware of the thread.
4. If you were wondering why I did not link ADHD's "coomer" image thread in the off topic board, it's because she deleted that thread when the Prospering Grounds thread was posted. ADHD is generally unashamed of the content she posts, given her history, making this a curious choice.
5. A more focused and higher quality thread on the "coomer" gooning circles is posted in Prospering Grounds which contained correct information, unlike the first thread. Despite literally never posting in Prospering Grounds before, or making any explorative contribution in any other thread, ADHD one of the first users to post in this thread and suddenly decides to make "informative" posts which were actually just on convenient, adjacent communities and not the original communities being examined in question. Worth reiterating, she never posted in the original thread which contained false information, but immediately does so in the one which was accurate.
6. Although she was directly asked if she would be willing to do so, meaning she did not bring this up unprompted, ADHD makes the curious claim that she is unwilling to infiltrate these communities. The post is also somewhat odd as she makes a subtle attempt at dissuading users to sift through the content in these Discords, stating they're mostly "stupid reaction images."
7. Point 6 directly contradicts ADHD's subsequent action of privately messaging the thread's creator if there were any DM chains examining the community. Although one can assume this means ADHD was only lying on the publicly visible posts about not wanting to infiltrate the community, it is extremely unusual and out-of-character from her to suddenly be willing to contribute to a thread in any capacity, as previously established. On the other hand, it is exceedingly simple to conclude she intended to keep tabs on how informed Kiwi Farms was on the gooning circles, possibly checking if there were any insiders already active.
8. Like before, this new thread received messages from other moderators. While only one or two were nonsense like before, some curiously ask the thread creator to "branch out" from focusing on one community or state that the thread isn't necessary. However, this isn't indicative of anything as this occurs in other threads, but it at least raises some eyebrows given the circumstances.
9. Throughout the thread, multiple embarrassing posts are made and deleted out of shame, as well. When I began to suspect the thread may have members from these gooning circles posting in it, I went through undeleting posts. One such post was from none other than ADHD herself. The post makes the unintentionally ironic statement that choosing "to powerlevel on a thread" makes one "look bad no matter what one says" after ADHD herself makes an extremely revealing comment doing just that. Given the unwitting humor in such a message, I quoted the post in my announcement saying I restored deleted content.
10. ADHD immediately takes umbrage with this decision, posting on my profile in complaint. This is unusual to me since normally users are the ones who complain about moderators, so I was bemused to see another moderator was complaining, even if the restored post was embarrassing.
11. ADHD was extremely intent on hiding the information provided in the undeleted post. This is extremely suspicious for two reasons. The obvious is that the post has clear connections to the interests of the "coomer" gooning circles. The second is that the revelation of this information is extremely in-character for ADHD. She has previously expressed interests in cooming and, well, being horny, and had repeatedly posted or sent users images which were both. In other words, there is zero reason for her to wish to hide this unless the exact connotations one draws from it were entirely accurate. Furthermore, calling back to point 7, if she truly wanted to be a "deep cover super agent infiltrator" in these communities, she would want to put a front suggesting he was some secret defender of them. She would only have wanted to remove this post if she had something to hide.
12. Not entirely related but amusing nonetheless, ADHD was so disliked on the forum (which will be explored later) that she assumed I also disliked her, had interacted with her before, and openly stated I disliked her. All three were false at the time, as I had no awareness of her and thus had not even formed an opinion let alone ever acknowledged her until quoting her ridiculous post. When I invited her to substantiate her claim, she declined stating it was impossible. She also failed to understand that the ability of moderators to edit and restore another moderator's post is entirely planned by the site's admin to stir up drama between staff, as was the intent of my actions.
13. ADHD would then attempt to blank the post and delete it multiple times afterwards, which were repeatedly reverted. It is clear she was intent on hiding this information by any means necessary, which ironically drew even more attention to this.
14. Long before this event, ADHD was known to start extensive gooner erotic roleplay chains in private messages and inviting random users to them. They are not pleasant. However, this establishes both that ADHD is completely unconcerned with how other moderators perceived her and how her interests outlined in the post she wished to delete is not something out of the ordinary given the content of the private messages she invited random users to. Pay close attention to the users who participate in this ERP, if you decide to brave reading them.
The additional full logs can be viewed in video format here, a third private chat which leaked later here, and a fourth here.
Useful_Mistake said:
15. Eventually, a callout thread is created. During this time, the admin of Kiwi Farms begins to investigate moderator complaints of the ERP ADHD invited other moderators to. In response, ADHD's ability to send private messages is taken away, but ADHD blanks her account before it can be investigated fully. She is still mod and will remain mod.
16. There seems to be an incorrect belief that she left Kiwi Farms because her ability to send private messages was removed. ADHD herself has confirmed this is not the case. She has never complained about her privileges being revoked, and directly states it is due to her post being restored. Furthermore, her complaints have been nothing but surrounding the fact her post was restored and never anything else, making it impossible to draw the conclusion her departure was due to her PM privileges being revoked given the evidence.
17. The final point, a small footnote, is that ADHD is now being defended either directly, such as a moderator attacking another moderator for leaking the private messages with ADHD, or indirectly, such as the curious claim that ADHD only left because she suddenly didn't like the poor reception she received on the forum despite not caring mere days before rather than due to the gooner allegations. As proven by the private messages, these are moderators who were most genuinely engaged with ADHD in the erotic role plays. These mods have now made their forum activity visibility private.
As this thread has progressed, these moderators have tried to sell out each other to draw attention away from themselves as individuals, asserting the others are worse than they are. Below is a post by @Useful_Mistake offering highlights.
Useful_Mistake said:
Having archived and ordered these events, I cannot conclude without a doubt that ADHD was indeed involved in the "coomer" gooning circles. However, her actions cannot be explained otherwise, although there is a slightly possible consideration that she was a victim of these gooning circles, but she has made a few posts alluding she is in her mid-thirties or so, making this even more unlikely. It is also feasible to believe she is a scapegoat who just so happened to be the only one who got caught on the website, but there is even less evidence suggesting this.
I love this drama, but I didn't like the scattering of information, the general confusion surrounding it, and users being unaware of where to find this information. This is classic forum drama with a modern coat of paint, and a staff effort at that. A large majority of the information which wasn't drawn from my own observations were from user posts either made publicly or sent to me privately. You are free to draw your own conclusions given the provided evidence. As stated, I don't speak with certainty that ADHD was a part of these gooning circles and failed to do damage control, but I can speak with confidence. Either way, ADHD has nuked her account and allegedly turned her password and email into gibberish, so unless she comes back with a desperate sockpuppet, we're most likely at the end of this little adventure, and given her general reception during her time on the forums, there's no love lost from ADHD's departure.
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