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Throw back to the time Jae Crowder accidentally hit what would have been the longest shot in NBA history had it not been an inbound pass:
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The issue with the rims is more an infrastructural ones, because girls wouldn't grow up shooting on lowered rims especially in low income areas. Adjustable rims are omnipresent at college level and up, sure, and it's unlikely any random rim out on a streetball court is at exactly 10 feet to begin with, but it does cause some weirdness in AAU and High School.
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It's like when they moved the extra point line back in Football, there was a decrease in percentage made initially which then went away over time. The WNBA would go through a couple painful years of shooting as girls got used to the new rim height but eventually they would pick it up and things would go back to normal with the added bonus of them now being able to dunk consistently.
 
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Derrick said:
It's like when they moved the extra point line back in Football, there was a decrease in percentage made initially which then went away over time. The WNBA would go through a couple painful years of shooting as girls got used to the new rim height but eventually they would pick it up and things would go back to normal with the added bonus of them now being able to dunk consistently.
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I mean more that the issue is that most of them aren't going to be practicing on 9 foot rims till the college level unless they have some money, and there'd be issues in open gyms with them constantly needing to move the rims up and down if men and women are both around at once.
 
Can someone in this thread try to sell me on the NBA and if it's worth watching? (I really don't know much about it so if i come as ignorant that is why)
 
Zaryiu2 said:
Can someone in this thread try to sell me on the NBA and if it's worth watching? (I really don't know much about it so if i come as ignorant that is why)
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It's fun if you enjoy basketball, I grew up watching my local college team play so I've always really enjoyed basketball. One day a friend of mine got me watching the Thunder and even though they weren't a particularly good team at the time I still found it very fun to watch. Legitimately what I feel like turns people off from watching the NBA is how retarded the refereeing is and Adam Silver being Adam Silver.
 
Zaryiu2 said:
Can someone in this thread try to sell me on the NBA and if it's worth watching? (I really don't know much about it so if i come as ignorant that is why)
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Don't watch it live, watch the replays of the better games so you can skip all the time outs and "call reviews" late in the game. If you do that it can be very entertaining.
 
Womble of Wimbledon said:
Don't watch it live, watch the replays of the better games so you can skip all the time outs and "call reviews" late in the game. If you do that it can be very entertaining.
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I don't think the average NBA fan even watches regular season games live, they just look at replays and highlights.

The playoffs are worth watching though since star players actually get off the bench and try.
 
Zaryiu2 said:
Can someone in this thread try to sell me on the NBA and if it's worth watching? (I really don't know much about it so if i come as ignorant that is why)
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Any series look to be fun this year other than Cavs vs. Magic. If you like watching basketball, give it a shot this weekend see how it goes. If you want some top level stuff to decide if you basketball try Dallas vs Clippers or Minnesota vs Phoenix.
 
Jontay Porter has received a lifetime ban from the NBA for betting on his own games.
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Jontay Porter has received a lifetime ban from the NBA for betting on his own games.
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That's so dumb on his part. With how player salaries are nowadays, how would taking this kind of a risk ever be worth it outside of fringe scenarios where you're done after that year whether you want to be or not? The minimum rookie salary is about a million a year, and he was in year 4 of play. If you're going to gamble at least have the common sense not to shit where you eat.

In other news, Xitter's news bot thinks Klay Thompson is going around throwing bricks at houses lmao
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Lurkbot Prime said:
If you're going to gamble at least have the common sense not to shit where you eat.
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That’s what gets me about the scheme he devised. Like it was so obvious it was him, if you actually watched the games he’s avoiding rebounds and leaving the game after getting just one shot under whatever the under was set at. My guess is he was more addicted to the thrill of it all rather then the actual money but even then, just bet on football and baseball, not your own games. Dude completely ruined his career and didn’t even get a payout from FanDuel.
 
A Bit Concerning said:
That’s what gets me about the scheme he devised. Like it was so obvious it was him, if you actually watched the games he’s avoiding rebounds and leaving the game after getting just one shot under whatever the under was set at. My guess is he was more addicted to the thrill of it all rather then the actual money but even then, just bet on football and baseball, not your own games. Dude completely ruined his career and didn’t even get a payout from FanDuel.
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It's why some states have already banned prop bets and others are following suit.

Just way too tempting for idiots who are like "oh damn I can make money by betting the under on myself??? nobody will ever find out about this..."
 
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Jontay Porter has received a lifetime ban from the NBA for betting on his own games.
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This was only a matter of time. Gotta love Adam Silverstein raking in the the revenue from partnering with betting companies which bleed working class punters dry then banning a player for "the integrity of the game".

Anyway, Pelicans-Lakers was a way better game than expected. Zion is the real deal!
 
Womble of Wimbledon said:
This was only a matter of time. Gotta love Adam Silverstein raking in the the revenue from partnering with betting companies which bleed working class punters dry then banning a player for "the integrity of the game".
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I'm not defending Porter's actions, but I feel like there's a level of hypocrisy going on here. Adam Silver won't ban Miles Bridges, a man who beat his girlfriend to a pulp in front of his children, but he will ban someone for participating in something that gets promoted on every single NBA and sports broadcast in general. You see FanDuel and DraftKings gets advertised all the time on official NBA broadcasts but the second that a player participates in that he gets a lifetime ban.
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Anyway, Pelicans-Lakers was a way better game than expected. Zion is the real deal!
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Zion is great, but if I was a NO fan I would be terrified about him missing the Kings game. There's a lot of times where he puts the entire Pelicans offense on his back.
 
Domestic abuse may be morally worse than rigging bets, but it's pretty different from the league's perspective. Miles Bridges took a no contest plea that avoided any jail time. As far as the law is concerned, justice was served. If the league starts going after people for separate legal matters, especially those which don't technically end in a guilty verdict, the player's association is going to cause all sorts of problems for them and they're legally obligated to attempt to do so. Now, if there was such an outcry that the NBA somehow saw a significant loss in revenue? That's different. Miles Bridges being a piece of shit doesn't hurt their bottom line, but the gambling does.

Think about it from the perspective of a normal job. If I get some sort of criminal conviction, I may or may not get fired as well, but it'll probably mostly depend on if my conviction hampers my ability to do the job or brings a ton of bad PR to my job provided it doesn't strike a moral cord with my boss. If I'm undermining the integrity of my workplace itself? Yeah, I'm gone. No question about that.

No disagreement on the hypocrisy of letting gambling services advertise, but it's the same pragmatic issue where they haven't lost enough money from outcry over them to care.
 
Lurkbot Prime said:
That's so dumb on his part. With how player salaries are nowadays, how would taking this kind of a risk ever be worth it outside of fringe scenarios where you're done after that year whether you want to be or not? The minimum rookie salary is about a million a year, and he was in year 4 of play. If you're going to gamble at least have the common sense not to shit where you eat.

In other news, Xitter's news bot thinks Klay Thompson is going around throwing bricks at houses lmao
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Yeah but the lolcows of Conservapedia saw some double standards.
Gambling corrupts NBA: a young player is tragically banned for life but billionaire owners aren't who welcomed sports gambling to boost profits.
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Maybe that quote would be worth for a meme featuring the Third World Skeptical Kid. :story:
 
Lurkbot Prime said:
Domestic abuse may be morally worse than rigging bets, but it's pretty different from the league's perspective. Miles Bridges took a no contest plea that avoided any jail time. As far as the law is concerned, justice was served. If the league starts going after people for separate legal matters, especially those which don't technically end in a guilty verdict, the player's association is going to cause all sorts of problems for them and they're legally obligated to attempt to do so. Now, if there was such an outcry that the NBA somehow saw a significant loss in revenue? That's different. Miles Bridges being a piece of shit doesn't hurt their bottom line, but the gambling does.
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Kobe never even got suspended for his shit.

I don't know why people expect sports leagues to be moral arbiters. Porter wasn't really a bench warmer since he got minutes but it's not like he's some superstar. They made an example of him. If LeBron was point shaving they'd talk to him quietly about it and never let it come to light. If there was a ref, whose name may or may not be Scott Frost, who was involved in fixing then they'd also bury that.

It's business.
 
std::string said:
Kobe never even got suspended for his shit.

I don't know why people expect sports leagues to be moral arbiters. Porter wasn't really a bench warmer since he got minutes but it's not like he's some superstar. They made an example of him. If LeBron was point shaving they'd talk to him quietly about it and never let it come to light. If there was a ref, whose name may or may not be Scott Frost, who was involved in fixing then they'd also bury that.

It's business.
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By the same token though, Silver should never had banned Donald Sterling for saying he didn't want his girlfriend hanging around black guys. He arguably should have for being a terrible owner, but he knew the players would go ape shit and probably strike if he didn't ban him. They'll be moral arbiters when it suits them, and make the "it's all business" argument when it suits them. Silver is completely at the mercy of the players.
 
Womble of Wimbledon said:
By the same token though, Silver should never had banned Donald Sterling for saying he didn't want his girlfriend hanging around black guys. He arguably should have for being a terrible owner, but he knew the players would go ape shit and probably strike if he didn't ban him. They'll be moral arbiters when it suits them, and make the "it's all business" argument when it suits them. Silver is completely at the mercy of the players.
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I'd disagree with that assessment and instead say this instead shows how he's at the mercy of the owners... which is something that comes with the job title. The Commissioner of the NBA is accountable to the collective ownership of the NBA, which is the ownership of the teams. Sterling had a history of being a terrible owner and being racist, with the very silly specific event of telling his half black mistress not to associate with black people (Magic Johnson in particular lmao) being the straw that broke the camel's back and got the players up in arms. Him sticking around was going to hurt the bottom line when his team was going to refuse to play, so he was kicked out by the NBA itself acting through Adam Silver.

Sterling had been known to have been racist for ages, even getting sued by the federal government for racism at one point. Wasn't booted then because it wasn't affecting the bottom line. Others have been known to be racist or be sex pests and so on, and yet they're not getting banned by the league itself. Some will be disciplined by individual teams because a team's owner sees fit to do so, but the league really doesn't take action on this stuff much at all. According to the Wikipedia list everyone except Sterling who's permabanned is for drugs or gambling, so I think it's pretty safe to say it's less that Sterling is racist and more that he managed to be racist in such a ridiculous and visible way that he was going to kill the golden goose.

I don't think people are generally saying that guys like Miles Bridges or Karl Malone or Kobe are exactly paragons of virtue so much as they're taking the cynical realist perspective that it's pretty pointless to expect a multi billion dollar project to stake everything on personal morals as opposed to looking out for their bottom line. Just like large "woke" corporations of the world, these entities are chameleons who believe whatever makes them the most money and keeps them at the top. At the end of the day, that's just capitalism.
 
Jokic winning the MVP will be utter horse shit. Doncic did so much with so much less than Jokic but since he had one of the legendary runs in the play-offs LAST SEASON and fuckin journos don't want to look like they can't read advance stats(Which are highly skewed because of Denver's roster construction) he will get anonymous vote or some shit close to that.

I can't wait see how retarded they will look once more after the western conference finals.
 
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