The NBA Thread

As someone who's not really a locationally devoted fan, I planned to try and catch more of the spurs games this upcoming season than Mavs ones. I'm interested in seeing how Wemby does back from the blood clots, and how their draft picks shape out. Dylan Harper is supposed to be really good, #2 is a high pick after all.
 
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Since WNBA discussion seems to be on-topic in this thread...

In other news, the WNBA All-Stars all showed up to warmups in these shirts and continue to demonstrate how out of touch they are. This is what happens when you have the media trying to artificially prop up the women's leagues and make them seem more popular than they are.
Just the other day, I saw some article claiming that Caitlin Clark sitting out with injuries this year has led to decreased revenues from the fanbase that has wanted to see her ever since her rookie season last year. The players need to realize that they need some sort of star power and/or fan appeal to keep fans attending games and bringing in more money so the league can ultimately stop losing money and afford better salaries. Instead, the players through their union are looking at the situation with tunnel vision in demanding more without regard to the ramifications of a league having increased expenses against revenue that is isn't growing in proportion to those expenses.

If that were the case, Caitlin would be taking in 90% of the WNBA's revenue. Which I'd be fine with, considering every time she's on the court she's the victim of a hate crime.
I've never seen a sports league so actively hate its main attraction.
Candace Parker in 2017 basically said that WNBA player culture was anti-straight, jealous, and conformist to whatever the current regime is.

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If we throw in current day race-relations, you can see why the league hates Catlin Clark.
She is essentially the counter-culture to the entire WNBA while also being one of the best and most popular.
I'll chime in and say I also think a lot of it has to do with the fact Clark is a straight white woman playing in a league with a disproportionate number of lesbians - especially black ones - who are open about their relationships and equally open about their resentment towards anyone who isn't one of them. That said, the fact Clark has been physically brutalized as much as she has on the court over the past two seasons is appalling - more so if it's because of her race, orientation, or both. If the WNBA is like its male counterpart in requiring players and arenas to promote messages of diversity, no hate, etc., there would be a certain irony that the league and its players have no problem with a popular player being treated as poorly as she has because she's not a lesbian. If Clark were to nope out of the WNBA over this, the league will be truly screwed because the gains in popularity and revenue driven by her presence will go away as well.

Meanwhile, this year's rookie sensation (Paige Bueckers) admitted earlier this season that she's in a relationship with one of her college minority teammates and the league seems to have accepted her better than Clark because Bueckers ticks off the right checkboxes and she's been looking and acting more ghetto ever since she came out of the closet.
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Paul George the only one still in the league from that 2010 draft class
 
You have to make him sell for doing this, don't you?

Only the most harsh punishment is going to stop the owners from doing this regularly. If they come down lightly on him, it's a green light for the others to do this. If you make Sterling sell for saying things about black people, you can make Ballmer sell for something as serious as this.
 
Professional athletes already making more in a year off of sponsorships than 99.9% of people will make in a lifetime before we even get to their actual salary, getting paid under the table. Greed really knows no bounds.
 
You have to make him sell for doing this, don't you?

Only the most harsh punishment is going to stop the owners from doing this regularly. If they come down lightly on him, it's a green light for the others to do this. If you make Sterling sell for saying things about black people, you can make Ballmer sell for something as serious as this.
Issue is he's definitely not the only one doing something like this (Brunson), it's happened before and it'll happen again. Sterling being that flagrantly racist threatened the cash flow of the other 29, but I don't think Ballmer cheating the salary cap threatens the cash flow in the same way and at least some of the others would rather not have their own books looked at too closely. They'll probably just dock a zillion picks from the Clippers and they'll suck for a decade like they did when the Joe Smith stuff happened with the Timberwolves.
 
I cannot fathom earning $50 million a year and telling the head of my organisation, "you need to make it worth my while to stay here!"

Did Steve Ballmer not just do this because he wanted to? I can't picture Kawhi suggesting he needed nearly $80 million a year to stay with the Clippers, seeing as no other franchise would pay him that anyway.
 
I cannot fathom earning $50 million a year and telling the head of my organisation, "you need to make it worth my while to stay here!"

Did Steve Ballmer not just do this because he wanted to? I can't picture Kawhi suggesting he needed nearly $80 million a year to stay with the Clippers, seeing as no other franchise would pay him that anyway.
I hate to parrot but I think Steven A got it on the head. I think he's right that Kawhi is probably the superstar that I don't even associate with his current team. He does nothing extracurricular (honestly based, can't blame him) but I legitimately couldn't have told you he played for the Clippers 2 days ago. I do not understand trying to circumvent salary caps to make him a cornerstone of your team that's already not the one associated with your specific city. Kobe and Shaq still have far more brand value for LA basketball than anyone who is or has been on the Clippers and now they're milking LeBron for whatever years he has left. .
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There is some drama with the Clippers this morning: it looks like owner Steve Ballmer had setup some sort of fraudulent shell company so he could pay Kawhi Leonard under the table. Kawhi was getting paid $28 million to "work" for the company via a no-show job.

X is blowing up about it right now and it looks the NBA is going to be forced to respond to it.
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A boomer silicon valley cokehead and a nigger? I'm not surprised, but I'm amused by it.
 
You have to make him sell for doing this, don't you?

Only the most harsh punishment is going to stop the owners from doing this regularly. If they come down lightly on him, it's a green light for the others to do this. If you make Sterling sell for saying things about black people, you can make Ballmer sell for something as serious as this.

That could get the league one step closer to putting a team in Vegas too. It's clear they want one there, expansion or not. I doubt they'd have a problem letting the Clippers leave LA.
 
That could get the league one step closer to putting a team in Vegas too. It's clear they want one there, expansion or not. I doubt they'd have a problem letting the Clippers leave LA.
The Clippers literally just built the best stadium for basketball that exists. They ain't going nowhere.
 
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