The Negotiating Claim

[Sakamoto]

One thing I always found strange was how he said in the past that he only sat with his 'gal pals' on even days. Or odd, whichever. Now, I know autistic people like repetition etc., but it seems rather strange. Maybe someone DID have a word with the girls to sit with him every other day, and on the off days they were nowhere to be found.

That had something to do with scheduling, Chris had different lunch times on different days (or the "galpals" did), so he couldn't always sit with them. I really doubt any school official told them they must accept Chris into their fold. Can you imagine the principal telling you that you have to go pretend to be friends with some slow-in-the-mind? I'm sure it was real a case of pity. They were nice people, they felt pity for him and let him sit with them so bullies wouldn't throw him pennies and tell him Sonic is dead.

 

[Silver]

One thing I always found strange was how he said in the past that he only sat with his 'gal pals' on even days. Or odd, whichever. Now, I know autistic people like repetition etc., but it seems rather strange. Maybe someone DID have a word with the girls to sit with him every other day, and on the off days they were nowhere to be found.

well, chris' comments in a week with christian chandler indicate he had different classes on odd vs even days. my high school split lunch into four time frames based on what building you were in at lunch time, so I had one group I ate with on half of days and a different group for the other half. maybe it's a similar thing?

 

[timtommy]

I agree with those that say that this does seem like a stretch. Although I have been wrong many times when I say "that can't possibly be true".

It seems weird for school officials to pick a random group of girls and tell them they have to be friends with Chris. I could see them encouraging it in various small ways, e.g. if they notice someone being nice to him, tell her it is a nice thing to do and it is appreciated. But it seems so weird to Shanghai people into it.

I know we generally have to be open to any degree of weirdness from Chris and his family, but this is from a school.

Also I am not convinced this quote is great evidence. It seemed rather incoherent to me. I have no idea what, if anything, it meant in his mind, but it was part of a long series of incoherent statements filmed about a lego dollhouse in a McDonalds.

 

[Kosher Dill]

On odd days he was in the vice-principal's office serving out the year of detention he racked up for the Nathanael Greene incident, one hour at a time.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

The resentment in Chris's voice as he said the word "negotiation" told me all I needed to know.

He just found out that Bob made people pretend to be his friends for him. And it stung like hell.

 

[Henry Bemis]

The resentment in Chris's voice as he said the word "negotiation" told me all I needed to know.

He just found out that Bob made people pretend to be his friends for him. And it stung like hell.

"The Chandler/Manchester High Conspiracy." Has a nice ring to it.

 

[Bgheff]

It's very possible. My younger sister said being part of ASB in high school meant you let some of the autistic kids sit with you at lunch so they actually felt "normal". Her group of friends let some bullied sperg sit with them, and other ASB members adopted their own Sped for lunch socialization.

 

[DrChristianTroy]

I figured negotiating was how Bob described his threatening to sue the school to Chris.As for friends negotiating, he's just dense.

 

[Bragorboats]

well, chris' comments in a week with christian chandler indicate he had different classes on odd vs even days. my high school split lunch into four time frames based on what building you were in at lunch time, so I had one group I ate with on half of days and a different group for the other half. maybe it's a similar thing?

Ah. I'm British, so in our schools I think everyone always has lunch at the same time. I've not heard of them splitting.


EDIT; On other UBB boards I used to go on, you could just type[q] and [/q], :p

 

[Anchuent Christory]

The way Chris says it seems rather telling too, like he's struggling to hold back the tears. Whether that's due to 'BAWW SO WONEWY' or him genuinely missing the lumberjack is something we may never know...

It's definitely one of the genuinely pitiable aspects of Chris, he simply isn't emotionally and mentally equipped to deal with this sort of stuff.
Yet another side effect of him not getting the help he needed as a child.

 

[Stuff and Things]

Back in the old days we didn't have this PC anti bullying crap.
When you get bullied you fought, when you fought you two would sit outside the principal's office as he/she called your patents. You just sat there, quiet, knowing you're super fucked, and so is the kid next to you. You start sone nervous small talk and become friends.
Back in the old days you fought a guy and they became your best friend. This happened all the time.
Chris's mind may have seen these interactions with two JERKS as "negotiation"

When chris got bullied in highschool, he didn't even noticed it, and the only "fight" in which he was involved, was with a "niggo" and we all know that chris is too mighty to be friends with a JERK, specially if that JERK is also a niggo... but yeah, good old times, the parents hated each other but the two kids became friends afterwards lol

 

[jaijai]

This bit really stuck with me. Both because of how he sounded when he said it (the pauses and the sudden really sad tone) and because it was a bizarre statement.

But, thinking about it... maybe Bob did do this. There was this boy in my school who had some kind of problem (epilepsy I think). He was 13 or 14, but acted about 5. A group of 'good' students (as in, those who were seen as morally responsible and all that) were asked to look after him and take him under their wing. Unlike Chris, this boy is now working and stable in his own environment.

Perhaps the 'galpals' were asked to be friends with Chris. It's certainly a thought.

 

[Silver]

well, chris' comments in a week with christian chandler indicate he had different classes on odd vs even days. my high school split lunch into four time frames based on what building you were in at lunch time, so I had one group I ate with on half of days and a different group for the other half. maybe it's a similar thing?

Ah. I'm British, so in our schools I think everyone always has lunch at the same time. I've not heard of them splitting.


EDIT; On other UBB boards I used to go on, you could just type[q] and [/q], :p

it could also just be my school, though - we had close to 3000 students and nowhere near enough space for them all to eat lunch at the same time. (hell there was hardly enough space for everyone even when split into four separate lunch periods!) I don't know about manchester high though.

 

[Descent]

I misread the title at first and thought it said "The Negotiating Clam". I figured it was a relative of the Boulder Dropping Whale or the Yawning Squirtle :/

Anyway, the "negotiating for friends theory" is interesting, but I can't help but wonder if Chris's "sad tone" and "akward phrasing" when he said that is just do to him being unable to speak coherently.

 

[Christ-Chan]

The resentment in Chris's voice as he said the word "negotiation" told me all I needed to know.

He just found out that Bob made people pretend to be his friends for him. And it stung like hell.

But wasn't the video recorded on the 28th of October? I.e. before that was revealed to him? Or was he lying about that?

 

[Strewth]

Personally I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that Bob arranged the 'friendship' with the gal-pals.
All we have to go on so far is a single word from Chris, who has had trouble with the exact meanings of words in the past. Isn't it more likely that his friends were self-motivated by pity?
Perhaps the negotiation part refers to the insistence on mainstreaming, thus keeping him in an environment where Chris at least perceived himself to be popular?

Edited for grammar.

 

[Mr. 0]

The resentment in Chris's voice as he said the word "negotiation" told me all I needed to know.

He just found out that Bob made people pretend to be his friends for him. And it stung like hell.

So not only did Bob troll him by cutting down his internet and making him pay off credit card debt, he orchestrated one of Chris's biggest delusions to date?

Considering how many of us were getting so worked up over Chris and his high school fantasy, it wouldn't be unreasonable to suggest that old Bob was trolling us from beyond the grave.

 

[Fapcup]

I think the phrase he used in the video can be interpreted in a more general way. Negotiations are a part of friendships and forming friendships. From a psychological or analytical standpoint anyways. Though its pretty weird and quite ironic to hear it from Chris.

I don't think the principal might have necessarily been involved, or that it was anything as official like "negotiations" but it certainly isn't unusual that a teacher asks one or more "trusted" good students to take a weaker and insecure student under their wing.

 

[champthom]

The resentment in Chris's voice as he said the word "negotiation" told me all I needed to know.

He just found out that Bob made people pretend to be his friends for him. And it stung like hell.

Pretty much this. Maybe it was Bob's "negotiation" that got him the waterboy position on the basketball team as well?

 

[MrTroll]

I don't think Bob "negotiated" with the school on his behalf to get him some friends, but he probably did intervene for other reasons. Maybe Chris feels as if this actually hurt his social standing (especially in light of his recent realizations that nobody from his high school past wants a damn thing to do with him anymore) and he was attempting to be sarcastic, in his own autistic way, when he said that negotiating is one way to make friends?