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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%

  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%

  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
Yeah his interview must’ve been apocalyptic.
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What I'm envisioning is teams interviewed him under the pretense that he was a prospect that needed development, but he went in thinking he was pro-ready and a week one starter out of the gate since that was his selling point. A disconnect like that is fairly reasonable and also the kind of disconnect to shift interviewers from "on the fence" to "go away immediately".

Where Shedeur fucked up is not only did he not convince a single team he was week one starter, but he scared them away to the point of being drafted on day 3. No team deemed him worthy of a 3rd round pick, which is usually where prospects with talent, but have glaring flaws, are drafted. He may get lucky and get drafted in the 4th round, but now he's most likely gonna participate in the practice squad merry-go-round as a QB3 every week for a few years until:

- A team is comfortable with him at QB2.

- Flips practice squads all the damn time so teams can kick the tire to see if they see something that other's don't.

- Stop getting phone calls.

I'll admit that it's not impossible for every team to be wrong and Shedeur is the 2nd coming of Tom Brady, but he is no longer in the position to get the 2nd chances that a high draft position could afford him. Hell, he's no longer in the position to get a 1st chance barring injuries or him pulling a Russell Wilson/Dak Prescott in training camp.

It's really just amazing how much of a drop the expectation vs. reality was. QBs do tend to have the most variance, but it's typically within a round at most. Not a fucking day or two. Sometimes you'll have guys who seemingly skyrocket after the combine, only to end up where they were projected at before, but this nigga has been pre-ordained as a 1st round pick for more than a year.
 
HackerX said:
What I'm envisioning is teams interviewed him under the pretense that he was a prospect that needed development, but he went in thinking he was pro-ready and a week one starter out of the gate since that was his selling point. A disconnect like that is fairly reasonable and also the kind of disconnect to shift interviewers from "on the fence" to "go away immediately".

Where Shedeur fucked up is not only did he not convince a single team he was week one starter, but he scared them away to the point of being drafted on day 3. No team deemed him worthy of a 3rd round pick, which is usually where prospects with talent, but have glaring flaws, are drafted. He may get lucky and get drafted in the 4th round, but now he's most likely gonna participate in the practice squad merry-go-round as a QB3 every week for a few years until:
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There was a pretty widespread pre-draft leak that one team's QB coach said it was the worst interview he'd ever had in his entire coaching career. Another has leaked that he facetimed his father during an interview at one point, and another said he told a team asking him to critique his tape "if you don't like my game, don't pick me".

The anonymously-sourced dissection of this slide that'll get published somewhere like the Athletic in the coming weeks is going to be a riot.
 
Absolutego said:
There was a pretty widespread pre-draft leak that one team's QB coach said it was the worst interview he'd ever had in his entire coaching career. Another has leaked that he facetimed his father during an interview at one point, and another said he told a team asking him to critique his tape "if you don't like my game, don't pick me".

The anonymously-sourced dissection of this slide that'll get published somewhere like the Athletic in the coming weeks is going to be a riot.
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I'm starting to read into it and there's one aspect that really stands out. Shedeur has played under Neon Deon since high school. He didn't just never experience what other locker rooms are like or how other organizations are ran, but the only ones he has experienced can be described as eccentric at best (and dysfunctional at worst).

Ignoring the likely favoritism or looking the other way when niggynoggy did something dumb, Shedeur has no experience operating in a program his dad does not manage. For better or worse, his dad does not manage football programs in a manner that resembles other football programs. (IMO, it's for worse. It's only a matter of time till Colorado implodes in spectacular fashion, but I digress.) Shedeur didn't learn how to act like a QB in an environment where his dad wasn't in the same room because he never had to. Deion was always there and doing his own thing, which works (for now at least) in his football program. That shit doesn't translate anywhere else because that's the nature of how Deion runs things.

I kinda see four comingling points that explain why no one is drafting him now.

1. NFL teams don't believe Shedeur is ready to lead a team right now. He could ALWAYS lean on daddeh when there was conflict with players or coaches. Even if he didn't do it intentionally, everyone in the facility knew how things worked. Shedeur never had to develop into being THE GUY in the room, no matter how many jerseys they retire.

2. Teams don't want to risk the ensuing clownshow on a QB with average talent, whose sole success derives from an insane football program that catered heavily to him. Again, Shedeur's entire selling point is that he can be a game manager, but he's never played the game that everyone else is playing. It's always been the crazy Neon Deon show that serious programs mock.

3. He's not a freak athlete. He's doesn't have a cannon for an arm or run a 4.2. There's not nearly enough athletic talent to justify a draft pick for Shedeur when you factor in all of the development he needs.

4. I think teams are skiddish of the media snowball that'll come from this that has only gotten much much worse at day 2. Coaches do not like distractions. Coaches like distractions even less when it involves your backup, day 3 QB that may not even make the team, who's not an athletic freak of nature.
 
HackerX said:
I kinda see four comingling points that explain why no one is drafting him now.
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There's a fifth thing to consider that you left out:
Any coach/GM duo drafting Shadeur with an intention of starting him at any point has to worry about Coach Prime coming for their jobs.
Remember, he was saying he was going to stay coaching Jackson State all of a week before he announced he was going to Colorado and taking all his favorite players with him. His word now that he doesn't want to move up to the professional level means fuck all. And there are absolutely owners in the NFL stupid enough to sign up for the Deion show if it'll sell tickets.
 
He really thought it was the Shedeur (featuring Travis Hunter) Show at Colorado. How embarrassing to see a team mortgage their future to move up to #2 to draft the other guy as you prey to be taken in the 4th round to backup a QB you probably don’t respect in any way
 

Shedeur Sanders was prank called during the draft on Friday night​

Published April 26, 2025 07:24 AM


The excruciating free fall of Shedeur Sanders has been streamed live. Those watching last night may have believed the plunge was over.



Shedeur believed it, too.

Via Christian Arnold of the New York Post, someone prank called Sanders on Friday, leading him to believe he was about to be drafted.

“Been waiting on you,” Shedeur says.

The caller eventually says that he’s going to “have to wait a little longer.”

Shedeur pulls the phone away and says, “What does that mean?”

He was stunned due in large part to his belief that no one had the number.

Even more stunning was that Sanders hasn’t been picked through three rounds and 102 selections. The process resumes at noon ET on Saturday.
 
Count Grishnackh said:
Blah, blah, blah. If he's so good, why wasn't he drafted in the first 2 days?
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Not every athlete snubbed during the draft is Tom Brady. In fact, I would guess a kid who didn't constantly have to compete for his spot in college, has had his famous father as his only coach, and (again) has been handed every career accolade that isn't directly linked to on field performance will have the most healthy response to sliding like this.
 
DSP's Tax Lawyer said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ouOQr8W12jo
God it is so much fun watching these people who get paid way too much fucking money to make terrible draft analysis about who teams should pick get absolutely clowned on by the actual NFL owners. If Mel Kiper or Todd McShay or any of these fucking retards were good at evaluating talent, they would be a gm, not a talking head who only comes out around this time of the year.
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Bill Tobin has been vindicated.
 
Deion was a diva but he also put in the work to become a great player and knew how to behave like a professional to his coaches and teammates. It's really odd that he didn't teach that to Shedeur, or if he did try but Shedeur is just too much of an arrogant retard to listen which seems more likely.
And it's not so much that teams are passing on Shedeur to address other positions, we've seen a few teams draft QBs that were considered lesser prospects than him. I do think someone will eventually take a chance on him, but since he'll be a late pick there isn't any pressure to start him. Shedeur either takes the hint and grows up or is out of the league entirely in a year or two at the latest.
 
Kermit the Frog said:
Deion was a diva but he also put in the work to become a great player and knew how to behave like a professional to his coaches and teammates. It's really odd that he didn't teach that to Shedeur, or if he did try but Shedeur is just too much of an arrogant retard to listen which seems more likely.
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This is true after he was drafted, but this is also the man who told the Giants "You pick at 10? I'll be gone before then, I ain't got time for this" when they wanted him to take a test in their pre-draft interview.
And this wasn't exactly the clown show Giants, they won a Super Bowl the following year.
 
Americunt said:
The fact the Giants traded up for a QB that they could have waited for day 2 to trade up
for when they signed Russ and Jameis is comedic enough, the fact they did it and DIDN'T pick Sheduer is pure comedy. paging @StarkRavingMad

You know it'd bad when CLEVELAND is confident they can get you in the 2nd round.
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Something about first round picks having a locked in fifth year option in the contracts that second rounders don't? Saw this claimed on Twitter as justification for the Giants doing this, didn't bother verifying if it is even true.

Still -- even if true -- doesn't seem like giving up whatever they gave up to make the move. Plus, I'm not sure why they couldn't just add that to the contract as a term. 🤷‍♂️Probably for a few extra shekels, but nothing that would cost them draft capital.
 
Elwood P. Dowd said:
Something about first round picks having a locked in fifth year option in the contracts that second rounders don't? Saw this claimed on Twitter as justification for the Giants doing this, didn't bother verifying if it is even true.

Still -- even if true -- doesn't seem like giving up whatever they gave up to make the move. Plus, I'm not sure why they couldn't just add that to the contract as a term. 🤷‍♂️Probably for a few extra shekels, but nothing that would cost them draft capital.
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The league has standardized rookie contract scales according to draft position ever since a few contracts got way out of hand in the late 2000's, so teams don't get to modify the contracts like that. Trading up into the back end of the first to overdraft a player to secure a 5th year option (only first round picks get that) is pretty standard, and that's probably part of what motivated the Giants to make a move for Dart. Another common reason is hearing other teams that have similar needs at that position are trying to trade for that pick, leading to fears they like the same developmental round 2 player you do.
 
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