The NFL Thread - Root for your favorite team (or laugh at the Browns, whichever's easier)

[Bunchies]

Interesting how fun things begin happening in the league as soon as Tim Bradley is on his way out

 

[Salubrious]

The Denver Broncos are for sale. Cue the inevitable Simpsons jokes.

 

[Absolutego]

Brian Flores is suing the Giants and the NFL as a whole for racist hiring practices.
Some choice tidbits from the lawsuit:
-Bill Belichick texted Flores congratulating him on landing the Giants gig 3 days before Flores even had an interview. He mistakenly thought he was sending the texts to Brian Daboll, the current coach. Obviously this implies Flores' interview was nothing but a sham to meet the Rooney Rule
-Stephen Ross offered Flores a $100k bonus per game to lose during their Tank for Tua season (if anyone still wants to believe intentional tanking isn't a thing in NFL front offices)

He's also alleging there's a league-wide tendency to hire black coaches to be tank commanders, only to fire them and then hire a white dude to reap the benefits of the improved cap space and draft stock.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

If you read Tom Brady's retirement letter and had no prior knowledge you'd think he was a lifelong Buc after leaving Michigan. Telling how little reference to NE there is.

 

[Salubrious]

Brian Flores is suing the Giants and the NFL as a whole for racist hiring practices.
Some choice tidbits from the lawsuit:
-Bill Belichick texted Flores congratulating him on landing the Giants gig 3 days before Flores even had an interview. He mistakenly thought he was sending the texts to Brian Daboll, the current coach. Obviously this implies Flores' interview was nothing but a sham to meet the Rooney Rule
-Stephen Ross offered Flores a $100k bonus per game to lose during their Tank for Tua season (if anyone still wants to believe intentional tanking isn't a thing in NFL front offices)

He's also alleging there's a league-wide tendency to hire black coaches to be tank commanders, only to fire them and then hire a white dude to reap the benefits of the improved cap space and draft stock.

The most interesting part is that it seems like a weird time to burn every single bridge considering so many people thought he did a good job. It's not like Flores was never going to get another job again, unless Flores actually believes that's the case and just decided to go scorched Earth now for the fuck of it.

Edit: Isn't he interviewing with the Saints today? Does he think that's also a sham interview? And he interviewed with the Texans yesterday?

 

[Matthew216]

Brian Flores is suing the Giants and the NFL as a whole for racist hiring practices.
Some choice tidbits from the lawsuit:
-Bill Belichick texted Flores congratulating him on landing the Giants gig 3 days before Flores even had an interview. He mistakenly thought he was sending the texts to Brian Daboll, the current coach. Obviously this implies Flores' interview was nothing but a sham to meet the Rooney Rule
-Stephen Ross offered Flores a $100k bonus per game to lose during their Tank for Tua season (if anyone still wants to believe intentional tanking isn't a thing in NFL front offices)

He's also alleging there's a league-wide tendency to hire black coaches to be tank commanders, only to fire them and then hire a white dude to reap the benefits of the improved cap space and draft stock.

Yeah, “mistakenly.”

 

[Absolutego]

The most interesting part is that it seems like a weird time to burn every single bridge considering so many people thought he did a good job. It's not like Flores was never going to get another job again, unless Flores actually believes that's the case and just decided to go scorched Earth now for the fuck of it.

Maybe he's just furious at the league after how he was set up to fail and generally treated poorly in Miami. Having two clownshow organizations (Giants, obvs, and everybody knows the Texans are just interviewing every major candidate while they try to find a way to hire Josh McCown without the fanbase revolting) obviously use him just to meet a Rooney Rule requirement was the final straw

If you read Tom Brady's retirement letter and had no prior knowledge you'd think he was a lifelong Buc after leaving Michigan. Telling how little reference to NE there is.

I want to believe he's just saving the Patriots stuff until he signs a 1-day contract and gives his retirement speech with them. He's too chummy with Kraft for me to think he's that bitter towards the organization.

 

[los pepes]

The funniest thing about affirmative action (or Rooneyism in this case) is how upset the recipients get when people acknowledge that's why they are there, while still defending the policies in the first place.

"You have to hire/interview me because of the color of my skin, but you (and everyone else) also has to pretend you are not hiring/interviewing me because of the color of my skin!"

Either way, I don't feel sorry for the NFL. They deserve what they get. Let them drown in their pandering. Unqualified AAers flaming out and then suing for racism when they only got the job because they were black in the first place is a tale as old as time, and quite humorous to boot.

 

[spinal gas chamber]

Elway showing up hungover to the interview is pretty much Elway showing up every day is what I always remember hearing about him. He likes to

 

[LetterlandMafia]

Brian Flores is suing the Giants and the NFL as a whole for racist hiring practices.
Some choice tidbits from the lawsuit:
-Bill Belichick texted Flores congratulating him on landing the Giants gig 3 days before Flores even had an interview. He mistakenly thought he was sending the texts to Brian Daboll, the current coach. Obviously this implies Flores' interview was nothing but a sham to meet the Rooney Rule
-Stephen Ross offered Flores a $100k bonus per game to lose during their Tank for Tua season (if anyone still wants to believe intentional tanking isn't a thing in NFL front offices)

He's also alleging there's a league-wide tendency to hire black coaches to be tank commanders, only to fire them and then hire a white dude to reap the benefits of the improved cap space and draft stock.

Honestly surprised this hasn’t come up sooner. A rule mandating you to interview a minority candidate with every interview is never going to ‘fix’ anything, just lead to a lot of sham interviews that piss off the people in question when they realise it’s a sham or give them a victim complex if they don’t get it because then they must have just been the Rooney guy.

 

[Full Race Replay]

Flores agreed to sign a contract giving him a bonus if he loses games, and then claims he was unfairly treated for that happening to him, which he agreed to? Sounds fishy to me

 

[I.B. Niggin]

Brian Flores is coming off like a full fledged retard with this move. Wasn't there some sort of power struggle behind the scenes in Miami this season that ultimately lead to his firing? Like no shit you're going to get fired if you actively try to undermine the power status of the owner and GM, regardless of how well he did considering the circumstances.

It's just mind-boggling since it seemed like someone would have definitely picked him up this off-season but this kind seems like something that's going to blow up in his face. Figured he would have gotten the Saints job and Leftwich seems to have the Jaguars job locked up.

 

[CapricornusRex]

The most interesting part is that it seems like a weird time to burn every single bridge considering so many people thought he did a good job. It's not like Flores was never going to get another job again, unless Flores actually believes that's the case and just decided to go scorched Earth now for the fuck of it.

Edit: Isn't he interviewing with the Saints today? Does he think that's also a sham interview? And he interviewed with the Texans yesterday?

They can't even bust the Giants on their Rooney Rule shit because they interviewed Leslie Frazier and Patrick Graham before they chose Daboll. It looks like the Giants kept his interview, and possibly others, out of courtesy since they were already scheduled.

 

[spinal gas chamber]

I wanted him to come back to the Broncos this year after Miami fired him since I thought Fangio was a mistake and everything he did with the Dolphins validated that. First I didn’t know Elway showed up hungover and IDGAF mode but lol and second, whatever is going on here means either the NFL is a gigantic conspiracy (possible, but I’m still gonna watch) or massive bullet dishes (probably but I’m still gonna watch).

 

[Absolutego]

Lmao I dug into it further and apparently during the 2019 season Stephen Ross tried to arrange a surprise meeting at a marina for Flores with an upcoming free agent QB before the deadline, breaking league rules, and I am 100% certain it was Brady.

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

Maybe he's just furious at the league after how he was set up to fail and generally treated poorly in Miami. Having two clownshow organizations (Giants, obvs, and everybody knows the Texans are just interviewing every major candidate while they try to find a way to hire Josh McCown without the fanbase revolting) obviously use him just to meet a Rooney Rule requirement was the final straw


I want to believe he's just saving the Patriots stuff until he signs a 1-day contract and gives his retirement speech with them. He's too chummy with Kraft for me to think he's that bitter towards the organization.

I think this is the best answer. I'm not saying Flores was the best, and I'm not a Dolphins fan, but he did seem to be a well-liked coach, and the Phins haven't been THAT bad under his tenure. They even almost made the playoffs in one of the AFC's most competitive divisions.

So if Ross really did tell Flores to take a fall AND he got made to look like a fool via the Rooney Rule? Then yeah. Go nuclear.

Ive been all for the league and the owners getting fucked in the ass by bad PR and possibly legal charges for a few years now. So if Flores can do some damage, I'll support him.

 

[likeacrackado]

Something tells me the racial element will get played up and completely overshadow the getting paid to lose, despite the fact that 1. He wasn't the only black guy to be interviewed 2. These things happen all the time in the real world when management decides they've got their person but go through with interviews out of courtesy.

NFL deserves it of course. We'll see how this works out and if he wants to be the CK of coaches.

Tanking has been an open secret for years, but acknowledging that it was formalized to the extent of handshake agreements and personal payments could seriously hurt the viability of the league.

 

[Absolutego]

Something tells me the racial element will get played up and completely overshadow the getting paid to lose, despite the fact that 1. He wasn't the only black guy to be interviewed 2. These things happen all the time in the real world when management decides they've got their person but go through with interviews out of courtesy.

NFL deserves it of course. We'll see how this works out and if he wants to be the CK of coaches.

Tanking has been an open secret for years, but acknowledging that it was formalized to the extent of handshake agreements and personal payments could seriously hurt the viability of the league.

Yeah, it's a shame the Rooney Rule is probably where the NFL will cave or do some performative shit to salvage PR and get Flores to settle.
Not Ross being an investor in a sports gambling startup and trying to get his coach to fix matches, which would bring an utter shitstorm of legal trouble onto the league.

 

[Salubrious]

Something tells me the racial element will get played up and completely overshadow the getting paid to lose, despite the fact that 1. He wasn't the only black guy to be interviewed 2. These things happen all the time in the real world when management decides they've got their person but go through with interviews out of courtesy.

NFL deserves it of course. We'll see how this works out and if he wants to be the CK of coaches.

Tanking has been an open secret for years, but acknowledging that it was formalized to the extent of handshake agreements and personal payments could seriously hurt the viability of the league.

Well, let's look at the front page of ESPN right now. It's woke racial oppression Christmas.

 

[spinal gas chamber]

Well, we now have the Washington Commanders in the NFC East. Surely this amazing name choice will take news away from Flores going into full meltdown mode.