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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%
  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%
  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
This is downright hilarious:


Report: Meyer didn't know Aaron Donald, other star opposing players​


Urban Meyer was even less prepared for the NFL than his brief time in charge of the Jacksonville Jaguars suggested.

The former Jaguars head coach was unfamiliar with star players around the league, including Los Angeles Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald, San Francisco 49ers receiver Deebo Samuel, and Seattle Seahawks safety Jamal Adams, reports Jayson Jenks and Mike Sando of The Athletic.

"Who's this 99 guy on the Rams?" Meyer asked one staffer during the season, a source told Jenks and Sando. "I'm hearing he might be a problem for us."


Meyer had said he conducted a six-month deep dive on the NFL prior to taking the job.

The Athletic's story also highlighted other reported allegations of mistreatment and unprofessionalism against Meyer, who apparently kicked kicker Josh Lambo during warmups and publicly called out receiver Marvin Jones, which led to a practice confrontation.

"The most toxic environment I've ever been a part of," a veteran member of the Jaguars' football operations staff said. "By far. Not even close."

Jacksonville fired the ex-Ohio State legend just 13 games into his first campaign after a 2-11 start.

Meyer said in January that his tenure with the AFC South club "was the worst experience I've had in my professional lifetime."

The Jaguars replaced Meyer with Super Bowl-winning coach Doug Pederson this offseason.
This is just sad.
 
This is downright hilarious:


Report: Meyer didn't know Aaron Donald, other star opposing players​


Urban Meyer was even less prepared for the NFL than his brief time in charge of the Jacksonville Jaguars suggested.

The former Jaguars head coach was unfamiliar with star players around the league, including Los Angeles Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald, San Francisco 49ers receiver Deebo Samuel, and Seattle Seahawks safety Jamal Adams, reports Jayson Jenks and Mike Sando of The Athletic.

"Who's this 99 guy on the Rams?" Meyer asked one staffer during the season, a source told Jenks and Sando. "I'm hearing he might be a problem for us."


Meyer had said he conducted a six-month deep dive on the NFL prior to taking the job.

The Athletic's story also highlighted other reported allegations of mistreatment and unprofessionalism against Meyer, who apparently kicked kicker Josh Lambo during warmups and publicly called out receiver Marvin Jones, which led to a practice confrontation.

"The most toxic environment I've ever been a part of," a veteran member of the Jaguars' football operations staff said. "By far. Not even close."

Jacksonville fired the ex-Ohio State legend just 13 games into his first campaign after a 2-11 start.

Meyer said in January that his tenure with the AFC South club "was the worst experience I've had in my professional lifetime."

The Jaguars replaced Meyer with Super Bowl-winning coach Doug Pederson this offseason.
Is he officially worse than Bobby Petrino? At least Petrino has the excuse of the then-franchise QB being put in prison to explain him being a gutless motherfucker. Meyer just seems aggressively incompetent.

EDIT: I'm especially loving Meyer saying "these boys from the South, their transcripts don't add up" re: a black WR to a white QB, who was born in Knoxville, grew up in greater Atlanta, and played at Clemson.
Did Meyer legit not realize Lawrence was a Southerner, or was that shit a racist dogwhistle? From where I'm standing both are equally likely.
 
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Is he officially worse than Bobby Petrino? At least Petrino has the excuse of the then-franchise QB being put in prison to explain him being a gutless motherfucker. Meyer just seems aggressively incompetent.
Originally I thought Petrino was worse due to the off field shit he ended up doing but my god I think Meyer is worse. What was he doing during his 6 month deep dive into the NFL?
 
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The full trade from Cleveland and Houston. Starting to feel a little better about the trade (since I have been hating the browns front office since the start of this situation). 2 4th rounders, a 3rd, their next 3 first round picks and they get a 6th round choice in 2024. Plus all that guaranteed money. Hope it sinks the Browns
 
Today there was a whole slew of anti-mayfield stories running. The timing is suspicious to me. Often about supposedly weeks old happenings, or even older. Why only talk about it now? 🤔

The only positive one was during the weekend where, apparently, anonymous teammates dispelled the idea that Baker doesn’t get along with any of the locker room, and that didn’t seem to get much attention or the kind of push the others did today.

It’s all so bizarre. No. 1 picks, even the hideously incompetent ones, always get another contract somewhere/traded for meaningful draft capital. And the browns don’t seem to understand how little leverage they have in trade talks, with them asking for a day two pick in exchange and a team reportedly asking the browns for Baker and a pick to take on his contract ($18.8m guaranteed). And the market is drying up. Realistically, that was Seattle proposing the trade. For some ungodly reason, Carolina seems intent on punishing their fans with more putrid Newton/Darnold/Rhule football 😂.

I don’t understand anything anymore. If the locker room situation wasn’t awful before then it will be now. Are they really just going to keep him or eat that contract? Who knows. I don’t think AB/KS are anywhere near as capable as they’re considered.

Absolute dumpster fire.

I hope you felt moved by this blog post.
 
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In other news:

Ex-Saint Terron Armstead, who was pretty much the biggest name in Free Agency this year, signs a 5-year, $75 million deal with Dolphins.

The Saints themselves finally agree to a two year contract with Jameis Winston.

The Falcons sign Marcus Mariota to a two-year deal to replace Matt Ryan.

Your boy Baker Mayfield still on the outside looking in; his list of potential landing spots gets thinner every day.
Looks like the Dolphins are making moves to try and get rid of the idea that their owner was paying to lose football games
 
So how many more big name trades are going to happen? I know a few big FA's are out there to be signed but what about trades?
In normal offseasons I'd say we'd be done until draft day, but this year has been bonkers so who the hell knows.

In terms of FA signings, looks like Wagner is considering signing with the Rams, which about fits the pattern of LOB superstars going to rivals in the division, sigh.
 
In terms of FA, with many of the biggest names (Armstead, Winston, Marcus Williams) all off the board, the scramble is on. There are some surprisingly top tier players still available.

Odell Beckham, Jr. is still available, and is probably one of the biggest name wide receivers out there. The Rams have expressed interest in resigning him, but this appears less likely since they picked up Allen Robinson. Saints pursued Beckham heavily during the previous season when he forced his way off the Browns to shore up their faltering receiving corps, but no word on whether or not they've re-expressed interest in him. In one of the more shocking about-faces of the FA period, Beckham has actually expressed interest in going back the Browns after they picked up Watson. His ACL injury lowers his value and will mean that he won't be available for a good portion of the year, no matter where he signs.

With Terron Armstead now out of the running, the top offensive tackle remaining on the market is Duane Brown, a former Seahawk. Reportedly the Panthers are pursuing him.

Surprisingly, Rob Gronkowski is still on the market, as the Bucs haven't resigned him (yet). Rob has never played on a team that didn't have Brady, so it would be surprising if he started doing so now. As of now, there's at least a good chance he'll go back to the Buccaneers.

For one former Bucs player that definitely will not be back in the Red next year, Antonio Brown is still available. The question is whether or not any team is willing to take on such a volatile player. In terms of pure skill, he's definitely one of the best players still available. He too has, obliquely, expressed interest in going to the Browns after the Watson trade. Whether the Browns want to deal with the circus that is picking up AB and Watson at the same time is another question entirely.

Former Kansas City Safety Tyrann Mathieu is still a free agent. He's been linked consistently to the Saints by some reporters, being from Louisiana himself, so I think there is a good chance of him going there, but other writers have pitched him going everywhere from Dallas to Oakland.
 
In normal offseasons I'd say we'd be done until draft day, but this year has been bonkers so who the hell knows.

In terms of FA signings, looks like Wagner is considering signing with the Rams, which about fits the pattern of LOB superstars going to rivals in the division, sigh.
Whats going to be great is how things play out after the draft. After the dust settles with draft day, who the fuck knows what will happen
 
MVS signed with the Chiefs for a 3 year deal. Can't wait to see him run downfield and drop the 8 passes he gets thrown a game. Hopefully this opens up some room for WR to draft but knowing the packers, we will draft a few defensive players that won't work
 
The USFL has announced its rules differences in a video. I can't find the original video for some reason, but here's ThatsGoodSports' coverage of it.


tl;dw: They are keeping the two forward passes from the XFL, as well as one-, two- and three-point PAT options; a fifteen-yard field goal and two- and ten-yard scrimmages respectively. (That's pretty much what I was hoping for to keep the game interesting and different enough to watch, so I'm happy.) Kickoffs will be done further back to hopefully reduce the number of boring touchbacks. There will also be a "sky judge" with access to video feeds for overriding bad calls from field refs.
 
The USFL has announced its rules differences in a video. I can't find the original video for some reason, but here's ThatsGoodSports' coverage of it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_A1lKgNuxIc
tl;dw: They are keeping the two forward passes from the XFL, as well as one-, two- and three-point PAT options; a fifteen-yard field goal and two- and ten-yard scrimmages respectively. (That's pretty much what I was hoping for to keep the game interesting and different enough to watch, so I'm happy.) Kickoffs will be done further back to hopefully reduce the number of boring touchbacks. There will also be a "sky judge" with access to video feeds for overriding bad calls from field refs.
A few other changes

OT Rules- Best of 3 trying to convert 2 point conversions. Both teams get 3 chances (I think) to try and score 2 point conversions. Then it goes into sudden death

2 forward passes- 2 forward passes allowed behind the line of scrimmage. XFL style rules that the USFL is trying to claim as their own for marketing? I guess.

Extra points- Kick for 1, try and score from 2 yards out for 2 points, score from 10 yards out for 3 yards. XFL didn't allow for kicking, USFL does allow for kicking the point after

Kick offs- Kick offs move back to the 25 yard line. Every player on the kicking team cannot be further back than 1 yard from the kick off. Receiving team must have at least 8 players set up between the 35 and 45 yard lines. If the kick travels further than 20 yards, then the first touch must be by the receiving team (basically punt rules in the NFL).

Onside kick alternative- You can decide to take a 4th and 12 from your own 33 yard line instead of an onside kick attempt.

Pass interference- going with mostly College rules where its a spot foul up to 15 yards. However, refs are allowed to determine if it was intentional pass interference past 15 yards and thus make it a spot foul for the PI.

Clock stoppage- Every first down within the final 2 minutes of the 2nd and 4th quarter, the clock will stop.

Sky Judge- Extra official with access to replay that can add flags on any play. There are also corrections for personal fouls that can be corrected with replay. They also determine if PI is obvious and intentional with the sky judge


Thought- Don't really like the OT rules. The 2 forward pass is irrelevant, most teams can barely get a play that completes 1 forward pass so trying 2 is just hilariously optimistic. Extra points, kick offs, and the onside kick alternative is great changes. I am not a fan of the PI change. I understand the idea of now an offense doesn't get bailed out for bombing it long and having a contested pass get flagged and have a 40 yard gain but with the sky judge, you can have more accurate calls on PI. Otherwise you are just letting a defense get away with contesting hard for a long pass that would have resulted in a big gain/touchdown and the offense gets a 15 yard gain instead. Clock stoppage is something I absolutely despise. Coaching is a big part of the sport and if a coach can't manage their timeouts then they can lose the game. Quit bailing out the McCarthy's of the world. Sky judge sounds good on paper but in practice its a giant mystery
 
Sky judge should have a hunting rifle. It only seems right. I assume sky judge will be seated in a chair that is hooked up with the same rigging as the overhead field cameras so that he can fly around the arena at-will.

I like the onside kick alt.
 
The Saints have been slow in FA, but they're making moves:

In a shocking twist, the Saints have resigned Tre'Quan Smith to a two year deal, with only $2 million guaranteed. Guess nobody was really interested in him, which is believable considering all the talent that is available in free agency. With Michael Thomas coming back, there won't be so much on his shoulders.

Also in a surprising bit of news, the Saints have actually managed to sign a safety from the Kansas City Chiefs...just not Tyrann Mathieu. Instead they signed safety Daniel Sorensen. This decision was not well received, but to be fair, they probably just signed the guy to play special teams, since they already have people who can fill the role Marcus Williams did.

Well, there are still plenty of receivers: Jarvis Landry, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown (yeah, I know), Emmanuel Sanders, OBJ...
 
The Saints have been slow in FA, but they're making moves:

In a shocking twist, the Saints have resigned Tre'Quan Smith to a two year deal, with only $2 million guaranteed. Guess nobody was really interested in him, which is believable considering all the talent that is available in free agency. With Michael Thomas coming back, there won't be so much on his shoulders.

Also in a surprising bit of news, the Saints have actually managed to sign a safety from the Kansas City Chiefs...just not Tyrann Mathieu. Instead they signed safety Daniel Sorensen. This decision was not well received, but to be fair, they probably just signed the guy to play special teams, since they already have people who can fill the role Marcus Williams did.

Well, there are still plenty of receivers: Jarvis Landry, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown (yeah, I know), Emmanuel Sanders, OBJ...
Saints also think so little of Tayson Hill as QB that they just signed Andy Dalton for 1-yr/$5M to back up Winston.
 
Saints also think so little of Tayson Hill as QB that they just signed Andy Dalton for 1-yr/$5M to back up Winston.
Hill was always more of a swiss army knife than a straight up QB anyway. He's better in that multiuse role, but them signing Dalton may mean that he won't be taking many snaps under center at all.
 
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