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The NFL Thread - Root for your favorite team (or laugh at the Browns, whichever's easier)
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I think he's the funniest sports channel on youtube. Truly encapsulates the ethos of the average sports nerd
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Spot on. We have had 2 first ballot hall of fame quarterbacks run out of town on different conditions but the entire fanbase was fine with it. The entire fanbase has been cooking up a 15 year karma storm thats coming soon
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Favre wouldn't stop talking about retiring so I don't really blame GB for grabbing a backup plan. Trying to move on from Rodgers was weird though.
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I always thought it was that Packers management hated Rodgers. Rodgers has made it clear that he hates them so I would assume it's mutual.
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They're making a big deal about her going to the Jets game this weekend. Might as well have her bump Underwood to do the open for this Sunday at the rate they're going.
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Oh, I'm sure they do. Drafting a QB in the first round without giving a heads up to your starting QB is some Ides of March shit.
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Especially when a few months prior, they were in the NFC Championship game. The defense gave up over 200 rushing yards and was ran over by the 49ers. Drafting a backup QB in the 1st round when they were a game away from the superbowl is so stupid, I'll never understand that. It also makes Packers fans frustration with Rodgers more confusing. He's playing at a high level and covering up the mistakes of the front office. But Packers fans want him gone cause they are so ungrateful and think they'll get another Hall of fame QB.
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The egos of players gets talked about a lot, but GMs and coaches can have 'em just as big. They want their guys to succeed. They'll give their draft picks chance after chance, but fuck you if you're not some vet they can't afford to lose and you don't perform. They'll remove all evidence of success from the building that happened under the previous regime if the owner let's them.
The Packers were never going to be Gutekunst's team with Rodgers there. Nobody was ever going to see it that way. They wanted him out. Gutekunst wants a to build his legacy with his head coach, his QB, his team. Just look at Jerruh. He isn't happy just being an egotistical owner, he has to be the president and GM too.
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Unfortunately with the Packers, it's going to be this way until he leaves. There isn't a Sheila Ford who can come in with the history and damaged family name as prime motivators to make a damaged franchise into a contender. There isn't anything like this for the Packers, the shit storm y'all are in for is gonna be rough. hate to say it but y'all ain't running the north no more. Y'all had 30 years of consistent QB play and when y'all had HOF quality guys still able to sling it, you didn't draft to help that guy. You had it great now you fucking suck.
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Agree 100%. It's something that's always bothered me about GMs and executives only caring about "their" guys and not giving a shit about players drafted by the previous GM/Management. Who cares if there were some good players drafted by the previous GM? They weren't good enough to win with them, so who cares who drafted them? If you win a superbowl, it's usually going to be your team. It's such petty and stupid thinking, no wonder these guys never have success.
Look at the Jets and Bears. Those idiots are giving their QBs way too many chances to prove it simply because they are "their" guys and it will probably cost them their jobs. The 49ers got rid of Trey Lance as soon as they could. Yeah they made a mistake but they didn't turn it into multiple mistakes and a pink slip.
That's I love Jerry, he's the biggest obstacle to the cowboys ever winning again.
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A new video by Grossi, where he goes over the massive dysfunctional season being played out by the Bears.
I'mma make a proclamation, The Bears are the next winless NFL team. Especially with everything the video covers on whose making these important decisions when it comes to hiring.
I'mma make a proclamation, The Bears are the next winless NFL team. Especially with everything the video covers on whose making these important decisions when it comes to hiring.
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He'll never forgive them for not being Ted Thompson and the current FO is staffed by football Boomers he can't respect.
I don't hate Mark Murphy but the man's a definition of a stick in the mud and he found a similar vibe with Gutekunst. They will probably make that vibe work with Jordan Love but it was always going to upset a hippie like Rodgers.
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Mildly relevant, but a friend sent me this and it made me laugh
It’s a coincidence, sure, but it’s still morbidly hilarious. I like the Bears, much as I admit they’re garbage I like watching train wrecks, but have they really not won a game since last October? Cause if so that entire team needs to either undergo the mother of all rebuilds, or get relegated to the XFL or something…
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I still have no idea how the Bears are getting actively worse.
Fields looks like he's never played QB before.
Fields looks like he's never played QB before.
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Effort post inbound. tl;dr - Culture is not just a buzzword. It actually matters.
These players, coaches, and GMs don't just want to win. They are winners. They were brought there to win. They want to be the reason their team wins. Everyone needs to know that the team is winning because of what they are doing. Beyond that, it's also simple job security. Look at what happened to running backs. You want to be seen as essential so you get that next contract. You do that by being the reason your team wins. It comes down to culture. Most guys have ego to some degree or another. Can the senior vets, coaching staff, front office, and ownership get them to buy in and put the team above themselves to at least some degree?
Culture is a buzzword that gets thrown around a lot. It became that buzzword because it matters. It might shock you all, but I never played in the NFL; however, I am an infantry combat vet. The military, especially the infantry, is another high stress, high risk, testosterone fueled organization with a strict hierarchy and a culture alien to wider society. Poor leadership and lack organizational accountability/vision will ruin these types of organization. Why is a certain police department so fucked up and corrupt? The answer is leadership at every level and the politicians beyond the senior officers.
My unit came back from a deployment being lauded by think tanks and at war colleges for being able to accomplish what nobody else could in our AO (area of operation). We got a new command and in the words of a buddy "We went from shit hot to shit not in about 6 months". Our battalion commander was an arrogant prick who let our asshole Sgt. Major, who the previous Lt. Colonel kept in line, run wild while the new Colonel established a culture that did not care about the well-being of nor trust the junior enlisted.
That culture combined with a crop of shitbag SNCOs (senior enlisted leadership), we got for a very specific reason I won't sperg about here, created a miserable clusterfuck of failed training objectives and rampant disciplinary problems far beyond your normal rifle battalion. Thank fuck we weren't slotted for a combat deployment under that command. Those of us who heard from our boots, now team and squad leaders, after we got out were told how unprepared they were and how the failing of the previous command led to a much more difficult combat deployment than it should have been to follow.
Culture and vision from top leadership in these rigid, high intensity organizations generally matter more than in the corporate world. The margins for error are far smaller and the potential consequences much greater. An NFL team owner sets down vision for what this team needs to accomplish and the broad strokes of how to accomplish it. The GM is hired to enact this vision and is held accountable to it by ownership. They bring in players and coaching staff to bring about that vision on the field and establish the successful culture the team will need to win. The coaches are held accountable by the front office for what they put on the field and how their locker room acts. Veterans and star players ensure that the culture and vision is established beyond coach's words in meeting rooms and the practice field. Players hold each other accountable and the entire organization is working towards winning.
Everyone in the building buys in when that happens. People who played alongside Brady say the greatest thing he brought to the building was effort and accountability. Nobody from the cook staff to the coaching staff wanted to be the reason the Patriots lost. Everybody raised their level of effort. The difference between a good play and great play or a broken play and successful play can come down to effort. That can make or break a game or even a season.
Does anyone stay after practice to hit the jugs machine? How many people show up to poker night? Is it just the o line or do a dozen guys from various position groups show up team get together? Are position coaches spending 16 hours a day in the building or 20 and sleeping on a couch in an office?
Is your diva receiver willing to put in a real block on that TE screen? Does your o line motor to the second level to turn that 5yd gain into a 17yd gain and a 1st down? Does that d tackle shed his blocker and meet the linebackers at the RB to force a fumble?
People need to understand the vision of leadership, buy in to at least a minimal degree, see success from what they are doing, and then they will buy in wholeheartedly. Winning solves everything in the NFL so long as you stay winning. The Grossi video @moonrunes posted points out how the Bears are failing at the highest level and that shit will roll downhill.
Yes guys want to win. They want to for their ego, they want to have good tape for their next team, and they want to get paid. The difference is they aren't going to be putting in max effort if they don't believe they have a chance with the team they're on because the organization won't let them. Don't get hurt, get a one year prove it deal with someone else, and get your bag at a new team. Coaches and coaching staff know they'll be recycled somewhere else because coaching and front office jobs in the NFL are as much, or more, networking that performance.
Everyone on an NFL team has to want to win and believe they can. Senior leadership can ratfuck that desire and belief into the ground.
When you get to the NFL everyone is some level of ego driven Type A sort of person. Some more so or less than others, some can hide it, and others are able to push it down to raise the team up. They've been the best at what they do for at least a decade to get to the NFL. Their previous teams won because of them and that's why they get drafted and hired. It's easy to get it twisted that some teams are terrible, trash, etc. The difference between the talent on winning and losing teams in the NFL is not as great as a casual fan thinks. What separates the NFL from other sports is the team aspect. A single talented player can often dominate other team sports like baseball or basketball, but it is extraordinarily rare in football (ie Mahomes). Everyone needs to be doing what they're required to do for a given play in football. That means all 11 guys. One guy's loaf or missed assignment can cost you your playoff berth or get your QB sacked, injured, and out for the season.
These players, coaches, and GMs don't just want to win. They are winners. They were brought there to win. They want to be the reason their team wins. Everyone needs to know that the team is winning because of what they are doing. Beyond that, it's also simple job security. Look at what happened to running backs. You want to be seen as essential so you get that next contract. You do that by being the reason your team wins. It comes down to culture. Most guys have ego to some degree or another. Can the senior vets, coaching staff, front office, and ownership get them to buy in and put the team above themselves to at least some degree?
Culture is a buzzword that gets thrown around a lot. It became that buzzword because it matters. It might shock you all, but I never played in the NFL; however, I am an infantry combat vet. The military, especially the infantry, is another high stress, high risk, testosterone fueled organization with a strict hierarchy and a culture alien to wider society. Poor leadership and lack organizational accountability/vision will ruin these types of organization. Why is a certain police department so fucked up and corrupt? The answer is leadership at every level and the politicians beyond the senior officers.
My unit came back from a deployment being lauded by think tanks and at war colleges for being able to accomplish what nobody else could in our AO (area of operation). We got a new command and in the words of a buddy "We went from shit hot to shit not in about 6 months". Our battalion commander was an arrogant prick who let our asshole Sgt. Major, who the previous Lt. Colonel kept in line, run wild while the new Colonel established a culture that did not care about the well-being of nor trust the junior enlisted.
That culture combined with a crop of shitbag SNCOs (senior enlisted leadership), we got for a very specific reason I won't sperg about here, created a miserable clusterfuck of failed training objectives and rampant disciplinary problems far beyond your normal rifle battalion. Thank fuck we weren't slotted for a combat deployment under that command. Those of us who heard from our boots, now team and squad leaders, after we got out were told how unprepared they were and how the failing of the previous command led to a much more difficult combat deployment than it should have been to follow.
Culture and vision from top leadership in these rigid, high intensity organizations generally matter more than in the corporate world. The margins for error are far smaller and the potential consequences much greater. An NFL team owner sets down vision for what this team needs to accomplish and the broad strokes of how to accomplish it. The GM is hired to enact this vision and is held accountable to it by ownership. They bring in players and coaching staff to bring about that vision on the field and establish the successful culture the team will need to win. The coaches are held accountable by the front office for what they put on the field and how their locker room acts. Veterans and star players ensure that the culture and vision is established beyond coach's words in meeting rooms and the practice field. Players hold each other accountable and the entire organization is working towards winning.
Everyone in the building buys in when that happens. People who played alongside Brady say the greatest thing he brought to the building was effort and accountability. Nobody from the cook staff to the coaching staff wanted to be the reason the Patriots lost. Everybody raised their level of effort. The difference between a good play and great play or a broken play and successful play can come down to effort. That can make or break a game or even a season.
Does anyone stay after practice to hit the jugs machine? How many people show up to poker night? Is it just the o line or do a dozen guys from various position groups show up team get together? Are position coaches spending 16 hours a day in the building or 20 and sleeping on a couch in an office?
Is your diva receiver willing to put in a real block on that TE screen? Does your o line motor to the second level to turn that 5yd gain into a 17yd gain and a 1st down? Does that d tackle shed his blocker and meet the linebackers at the RB to force a fumble?
People need to understand the vision of leadership, buy in to at least a minimal degree, see success from what they are doing, and then they will buy in wholeheartedly. Winning solves everything in the NFL so long as you stay winning. The Grossi video @moonrunes posted points out how the Bears are failing at the highest level and that shit will roll downhill.
Yes guys want to win. They want to for their ego, they want to have good tape for their next team, and they want to get paid. The difference is they aren't going to be putting in max effort if they don't believe they have a chance with the team they're on because the organization won't let them. Don't get hurt, get a one year prove it deal with someone else, and get your bag at a new team. Coaches and coaching staff know they'll be recycled somewhere else because coaching and front office jobs in the NFL are as much, or more, networking that performance.
Everyone on an NFL team has to want to win and believe they can. Senior leadership can ratfuck that desire and belief into the ground.
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They legit had back to back HoF QB's and 30 years of dominance due to that. That's like the Bills vs Brady + another decade. There are Lions fans who are almost 30 who have never seen the Lions win a playoff game in their life time. Barry Sanders is STILL our most popular jersey.
Watching Grossi cry was cathartic, I just wish he was in the same kind of pain as Perna.
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I'm still amazed at how talking heads were talking up the Bears just because they signed DJ Moore
Ohio St QBs never fair well in the NFL.
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Stroud looks pretty good
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Yeah, you'll get your outliers but damn, Fields, Haskins, Cardale Jones, Pryor, Troy Smith, Krenzel, Belllisari................