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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%

  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%

  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
In coaching carousel news, the Saints finally fired Pete Carmichael and a slew of other coaches, ensuring that when the Saints inevitably suck next year, there will be no one left to blame but Dennis Allen. Now, everybody is just waiting to see if Jon Gruden gets the OC job.

Meanwhile, Dallas, somehow, decided against firing their awful head coach, despite getting utterly embarrassed by the middling Packers.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
In coaching carousel news, the Saints finally fired Pete Carmichael and a slew of other coaches, ensuring that when the Saints inevitably suck next year, there will be no one left to blame but Dennis Allen. Now, everybody is just waiting to see if Jon Gruden gets the OC job.
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I wonder if Gruden would really take the job. His lawsuit against the NFL immediately becomes extremely weak if he actually gets hired again.
 
std::string said:
I wonder if Gruden would really take the job. His lawsuit against the NFL immediately becomes extremely weak if he actually gets hired again.
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Somebody else here may want to look into it, but I'm pretty sure other coaches have sued the NFL while still coaching. Him getting another job with the Saints (as a coordinator, not a head coach) doesn't undo all the damage the leaked messages did to his career.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
Somebody else here may want to look into it, but I'm pretty sure other coaches have sued the NFL while still coaching. Him getting another job with the Saints (as a coordinator, not a head coach) doesn't undo all the damage the leaked messages did to his career.
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The Brian Flores lawsuit is still going on and he has a coordinator job. I don't think his current job will effect his lawsuit even though his lawsuit sounds weak. Gruden has a stronger case with his lawsuit.
 
Dildo_SHwaggins said:
The Brian Flores lawsuit is still going on and he has a coordinator job. I don't think his current job will effect his lawsuit even though his lawsuit sounds weak. Gruden has a stronger case with his lawsuit.
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Flores' lawsuit is kinda all over the place. The reason why black coaches are rare in the NFL and even college is the QB -> QB Coach -> OC -> HC pipeline that everyone seems to be obsessed with.

I don't think you can claim systemic racism when the league actively rewards teams for developing black coaches.
 
Flores can cry racism all he wants but how many players actually went out of their way to defend him? If he was likable then you'd hear more, maybe not from the Dolphins players (as they want to keep their job) but you'd hear at least something or someone speak up for him.
 
Shirō Ishii said:
Flores can cry racism all he wants but how many players actually went out of their way to defend him? If he was likable then you'd hear more, maybe not from the Dolphins players (as they want to keep their job) but you'd hear at least something or someone speak up for him.
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Flores was right about Tua: he sucks.
 
Shirō Ishii said:
Flores can cry racism all he wants but how many players actually went out of their way to defend him? If he was likable then you'd hear more, maybe not from the Dolphins players (as they want to keep their job) but you'd hear at least something or someone speak up for him.
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It also doesn't help that the guy who replaced him Is also black.
 
Shirō Ishii said:
I completely did not know that McDaniels was a mutt. I thought he was like Italian or some shit. His mom must be the whitest person on Earth then
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Black people disappear pretty quickly into white population
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The man on the left is the son of an Ethiopian slave brought to Russia(unfortunately even though Gannibal was basically a bossum companion of Czar Peter the Great no portrait survives) the man on the right is his grandnephew.
 
std::string said:
Flores' lawsuit is kinda all over the place. The reason why black coaches are rare in the NFL and even college is the QB -> QB Coach -> OC -> HC pipeline that everyone seems to be obsessed with.

I don't think you can claim systemic racism when the league actively rewards teams for developing black coaches.
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He's probably still upset he didn't get the Giants HC job even though the former Bills Assistant GM hired the former Bills OC for the role.

That's the other issue too, there aren't many black coaches in the league. Just because most of the players are black, doesn't mean the coaches will be but the NFL doesn't want context. And now only young offensive coaches seem to get hired which limits the hiring pool even more.
 
Dildo_SHwaggins said:
And now only young offensive coaches seem to get hired which limits the hiring pool even more.
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I have no idea why the consensus is now basically the only way to win in the league is to get a young offensive mastermind at HC so he can develop your rookie contract QB.

...what are people basing this on? McDaniel isn't over there turning Tua into a perennial all-pro.
 
std::string said:
I have no idea why the consensus is now basically the only way to win in the league is to get a young offensive mastermind at HC so he can develop your rookie contract QB.

...what are people basing this on? McDaniel isn't over there turning Tua into a perennial all-pro.
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I blame people like Colin Cowherd for this type of thought as that's all he parrots
 
TheSockiestSock said:
Dallas is always going to blue ball their fans until Jerry Jones dies.
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It's as evident to know that Jerry Jones has at some times been compared unfavorably to Bengal's owner Mike Brown, another someone who has done very questionable decisions, especially during the early-2000s onward
 
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