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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%

  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%

  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
std::string said:
I have no idea why the consensus is now basically the only way to win in the league is to get a young offensive mastermind at HC so he can develop your rookie contract QB.

...what are people basing this on? McDaniel isn't over there turning Tua into a perennial all-pro.
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I have no idea. It's even weirder when the top 3 coaches available this off season are all defensive guys (Bellichek, Vrabel, and Carrol). Even among the all time great coaches, I think there might be more "defensive" coaches on that list than "offensive" coaches.

It all goes back to teams trying to find the next Sean McVay. Never mind that he went to a good team and probably got some help from the NFL to justify their expensive move back to LA.
 
std::string said:
I have no idea why the consensus is now basically the only way to win in the league is to get a young offensive mastermind at HC so he can develop your rookie contract QB.

...what are people basing this on? McDaniel isn't over there turning Tua into a perennial all-pro.
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McVay won a super bowl while getting to a super bowl and Kyle Shanahan is doing well in San Fran. The developing QB can really only be applied to Green Bay but that isn't really a LaFleur thing but more a Green Bay thing since this is the 3rd time (potentially) that has happened. OC's get the big desire as well due to the fact that defense isn't as dominant as it once was in the league and college coaches aren't going to get a shot in the NFL for a while after so many of them became busts.
 
TVB said:
It's as evident to know that Jerry Jones has at some times been compared unfavorably to Bengal's owner Mike Brown, another someone who has done very questionable decisions, especially during the early-2000s onward
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Brown was just super cheap and ran that front office with a skeleton crew of whoever was willing to work for significantly below the industry rate. As a consequence he had terrible football and personnel decisions being made left, right and center.
Jerry has no problem spending, most of the time, but after churning through 3 coaches in the late 90's/early 00's (all of whom he gave 5 year guaranteed contracts) proved to be both expensive AND got him reamed by Dallas media, he now defaults to letting a HC start the final year of their contract before deciding whether or not to keep them. All 4 coaches since Campo either made it to the final year of their contract before Jerry either let it expire or fired them mid-season, or retired to go work in the FO of another NFL team as usual (shakes fist at Parcells).

RE: why everyone is clamoring for offensive head coaches - while defense does still win championships, IMO, you need a top 10 offense most times to make the SB and whenever a defensive HC puts that together the mindset is that his OC will get poached for a head coaching gig elsewhere and the team has to start over. An offensive HC is seen to provide some stability to the more important side of the ball.
It doesn't help that all of the last 5 Super Bowls have been between two offensive-minded head coaches except one, debatably two. Pats in 2018 (obviously), and, given how the Eagles fell off this season and how Sirianni has totally delegated playcalling responsibility and strategy to coordinators, I'm tempted to label him a culture coach.
 
Shirō Ishii said:
Flores can cry racism all he wants but how many players actually went out of their way to defend him? If he was likable then you'd hear more, maybe not from the Dolphins players (as they want to keep their job) but you'd hear at least something or someone speak up for him.
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I'm already starting to see articles crying about Flores being blackballed by the league because he hasn't been interviewed for any of the available head coach openings. Its retarded if you think about, if he was really blackballed I'm pretty sure he wouldn't even have a job in the league like he dose now.
 
Dildo_SHwaggins said:
That's the other issue too, there aren't many black coaches in the league. Just because most of the players are black, doesn't mean the coaches will be but the NFL doesn't want context. And now only young offensive coaches seem to get hired which limits the hiring pool even more.
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The main problem is that, listening to a lot of these player podcasts, you get an insight as to why there aren't that many. They end up treating it as a regular job, do the bare minimum, then coast with their athleticism for the most part. Those that do study film and schemes more, stay later at the office, and use their brains more, tend to get the opportunities to coach.
 
PikameeTeaKettle said:
The main problem is that, listening to a lot of these player podcasts, you get an insight as to why there aren't that many. They end up treating it as a regular job, do the bare minimum, then coast with their athleticism for the most part. Those that do study film and schemes more, stay later at the office, and use their brains more, tend to get the opportunities to coach.
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Also, most players get concussed and develop CTE which hurts their chances of coaching. Not that every coach is smart, but having CTE can't help either.
 
BikeLock said:
Something that Colin Kapernick fans/supporters (the majority of which weren't actually football fans) never understood.

Michael Vick literally murdered puppies and went to prison for it, and was still objectively good enough to get back into the NFL Ray Lewis killed a man. T.O. and Ochocinco were lockerroom cancers when they played.

Kap could run but had a noodle arm, which didn't survive past the one Super Bowl run before everyone got tired of his shit.
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FFS Ray Lewis didn't kill anyone. He was never a suspect for killing anyone. Ray's entourage shanked a dude who was fuckin with Ray at the club until Ray decided to get the fuck out before crazy man tried some shit. Crazy man tried some shit with a champagne bottle and got killed for it. Ray was only going to get in trouble for obstruction/aiding and abetting because he did what every nigga in Atlanta would do, he SHUT THE FUCK UP, and got rid of any evidence the violent, stranger shanking psychopath he was told would keep him safe while in Atlanta gave him. WHYYYY? Because said knife wielding, stranger shanking psychopath has no problems killing a professional football player.


BikeLock said:
I don't know how he could still have such a soft spot for Dem Boys after how dirty Jerry did him years ago. I know they made up and shit, but still... it's like a battered wife.
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Because he drafted and molded that 1-15 team in to a multi time Super Bowl champion? He's soft on Dem Boys, he aint soft on dirty ass Jerruh. At least he better not be, if he is, he's dumb as fuck.

std::string said:
Well he's also 50 years old. A hip drop tackle would disintegrate him at this point.

The only player I question why teams aren't inviting him to work out is Cam. Yeah he was entirely broken on the Pats but he might've healed up since then.
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No amount of healing is going to fix Cam's lack of arm strength with that destroyed shoulder of his. That's the only thing keeping him from being a backup. Just can't throw anymore. Maybe he could be a serviceable tight end?

PikameeTeaKettle said:
The main problem is that, listening to a lot of these player podcasts, you get an insight as to why there aren't that many. They end up treating it as a regular job, do the bare minimum, then coast with their athleticism for the most part. Those that do study film and schemes more, stay later at the office, and use their brains more, tend to get the opportunities to coach.
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A lot of them end up choosing to coach an easier job like high school football first to be close to the family they've neglected for 10+ years. Any great black players over the last 20 years will gradually start popping up in the NFL like DeMeco Ryans in Houston, and now Antonio Pierce in Oakland. Although Ryans went straight from released to working for the 49ers, so John Lynch (Former player) probably saw something in him when he got hired.

I'm hoping with more success from former players as coaches with DeMeco and Dan Campbell, we'll see less pencil-necked geeks like McDaniel and more former players getting HC jobs.
 
Texans -,I think Baltimore is going to win but one can dream
Packers - Seeing GB finally being able to beat San Fran in the playoffs as soon as Rodgers leaves would be hilarious
Bills
Lions
 
A little late to the party on the Jameis Winston situation, but I'll put my 2 cents in.

To quote Barnes from Platoon, "Now I got no fight with any man who does what he's told...but when he don't, the machine breaks down...and when the machine breaks down, we break down...and I ain't gonna allow that. From any of you. Not one."

It doesn't matter if your coach is some feckless retard. This is the ultimate team sport, and when you're called to run victory formation with no audible, then that's exactly what you run.

Winston has always been an immature idiot. Almost all shitstain QB's have issues with structure, discipline and playing "within" an offense, in any sport if you really think about it.

The highest probably of injuries, especially for linemen, comes on these rugby scrum type short yardage plays or when the QB escapes the pocket and everyone is having to move laterally. Even on the most innocuous plays, bad shit can happen because that's the nature of the NFL.

So this is well beyond discussions on sportsmanship, which also matter to a degree.

I don't even want to hear about the fake spike game, because the Marino-led Dolphins were down late in the 4th quarter when that happened.

Winston is showing you exactly the kind of immature, thick-headed shitstain that he is. I hope that he never plays another down in this league.

With all of these penalties in the 1st half, you would think that the fucking Texans would have been prepared with a silent count. I mean, how the fuck does a Guard even have a false start when the ball is being snapped next to you ?

Execution errors like this make me grudgingly accept that the Texans don't even deserve to win.
 
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The defense for Houston adjusted after the first quarter and the offense has improved after struggling initially.

Also, use the edit button new fag. This ain't reddit or discord. Nobody likes seeing 6 straight posts
 
Ravens
49ers
Bills
Bucs

Also I wish no one could win the Ravens v Texans games. I have such a visceral disgust for both nigger qbs but moreso CJ Stroud because of his campaigning to get his nigger felon dad out of jail.
 
DSP's Tax Lawyer said:
If he makes it to the NFL, that might be a bigger deal than most people realize. Pretty sure the NFL will pay more than most rugby contracts so this might incentivize more players to enter this program. Of course he could fail and we have to wait a few years for this to happen again
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"I'm getting hit with pads on and don't feel a thing. How weird and invigorating!"
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
In coaching carousel news, the Saints finally fired Pete Carmichael and a slew of other coaches, ensuring that when the Saints inevitably suck next year, there will be no one left to blame but Dennis Allen. Now, everybody is just waiting to see if Jon Gruden gets the OC job.

Meanwhile, Dallas, somehow, decided against firing their awful head coach, despite getting utterly embarrassed by the middling Packers.
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Yet Dan Quinn is interviewing for HC jobs. That defense just fell apart toward the end of the season.
std::string said:
I wonder if Gruden would really take the job. His lawsuit against the NFL immediately becomes extremely weak if he actually gets hired again.
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Gruden's lawsuit is over the release of his emails to besmirch him only isn't it?
 
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