The NFL Thread - Root for your favorite team (or laugh at the Browns, whichever's easier)

[Trombonista]

The Texans cut C.J. Gardner-Johnson.

 

[Drama Fan]

The Giants have announced that Jaxson Dart is going to be starting over Russell Wilson this weekend against the Chargers.

They could have been nice and let him have his first start against the Saints the next week, but oh well. Rookie QB's have to get beat up at some point

 

[-VorpalAnvil-]

I notice none of the talking heads are talking about my Niners being 3-0 while being shredded by injuries, with said injured players starting to come back onto the active roster this week,,,

 

[Zaryiu2]

Correlation Coefficient below -0.5 on things you want to happen or think will happen.

If Daboll wasn't worried he'd be starting Jameis, so it's at least half true.

Then i might be a jinx, i can count on my hands the number of the times i predicted which team would win (not count the occasions where even a toddler could have predicted correctly) since i got interesed in professional sports in 2017. In fact in the same day I was wrong twice about who would win in matchups of a different sorts not related to Football but when I decided to think that because I wanted the Lions to win that it would mean the Ravens would win? Suddenly Lions win. Not saying k had any influence on anything, just that stood out to me

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

And the Bucs didn't look that great in any of them.

Yeah but they have Baker who is probably the most underrated QB in the NFL (well, him and Goff probably). I would take Baker over Burrow in a heartbeat, and yet people insist on making Burrow a top 3 QB for some reason.

The Texans cut C.J. Gardner-Johnson.

That dude is a turd, hopefully he's just flushed away from the NFL completely now.

Then i might be a jinx, i can count on my hands the number of the times i predicted which team would win (not count the occasions where even a toddler could have predicted correctly) since i got interesed in professional sports in 2017. In fact in the same day I was wrong twice about who would win in matchups of a different sorts not related to Football but when I decided to think that because I wanted the Lions to win that it would mean the Ravens would win? Suddenly Lions win. Not saying k had any influence on anything, just that stood out to me

This is called "main character syndrome". You and your opinions have no impact on anything. You can test it by taking every cent you have and betting your thoughts, tell us how it goes with FanDuel.

 

[HackerX]

Well seems i was wrong this time. Also weird question: How does someone know for sure if they are a sports jinx or not?

It's easy. Any time something can make you happy, the exact opposite happens.

Everything the Lions did confused the fuck out of the Ravens defense.

Because Dan Campbell isn't an X's and O's guy. He's a culture guy. You can scheme effective mitigations against a X's and O's guy because that part of the game is basically Chess x Rock/Paper/Scissors. Sure, there are guys who can scheme REALLY well, but there's always a counter. And a counter to a counter and so on. However, you can't really scheme against a dude who sustains himself, and therefore the team, on 3 pots of coffee, gobs of nicotine, and a stated intent to bite kneecaps off. I do not like the Lions, but I LOVE Dan Campbell.

I notice none of the talking heads are talking about my Niners being 3-0 while being shredded by injuries, with said injured players starting to come back onto the active roster this week,,,

It's because they're in San Francisco and God hates fags.

Yeah but they have Baker who is probably the most underrated QB in the NFL (well, him and Goff probably). I would take Baker over Burrow in a heartbeat, and yet people insist on making Burrow a top 3 QB for some reason.

Same. Baker is kinda similar to Dan Campbell in that he brings a different type of energy to the locker room. Yeah, he's fairly talented but it's not like he's great because of that talent. He's great because he wants to curbstomp everyone who's ever doubted him. Which is still a lot of the NFL for some reason.

This is called "main character syndrome". You and your opinions have no impact on anything.

Yes they do! Everything that happens is done to spite me. Every. Single. Time.

You can test it by taking every cent you have and betting your thoughts, tell us how it goes with FanDuel.

I've tested by only ever coming in 2nd in my money fantasy football leagues. I still have a vendetta against Kyle Rudolph. Around 2019 or so, right when his injuries started to become apparent. The white nigger was sitting on my bench the entire season. I think he only had something like 1 TD the entire year. I drop him for the championship game to block the other guy from some other player. He picks up Kyle Rudolph, who goes on to score something like 2 TDs and enough points to beat me. It's a cruel, evil world that exists to spite me. What did I do to deserve this????

 

[xX Puss Slayer Xx]

I notice none of the talking heads are talking about my Niners being 3-0 while being shredded by injuries, with said injured players starting to come back onto the active roster this week,,,

I was going to say people are waiting for them to play a real team, but they dont have to the entire year. Other than the Rams x2 they only real teams they play is Tampa Bay, maybe Indy.

I cant remember ever seeing a schedule that weak

 

[Dildo_SHwaggins]

I have for years defended Daniel Jones as not being the main problem on the Giants. I have correctly pointed out that they have had bad offensive lines (some historically bad) and that affects QB more than talking heads could ever articulate. They have had retarded coaches and play callers. Daboll wants to go deep every play but the protection breaks down in lesss than a second. They have had retarded roster building and management. They can't develop players, but everyone becomes better when they leave the team. People wanted to ignore the millions of warning signs and wanted to blame Jones just because he was the QB. QBs get way too much credit and blame. In this case, way too much blame.

When he signed with the Colts, people I knew told me how upset they are and how the Colts are done. I told them not to believe what they read, and if he starts, he will suprise them. I often looked like a doomsday prepper to people when I told them that Jones is not the main problem, there's alot of rot around him. I am so happy to be vindicated after all these years. I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!

Spoiler

I'm not saying he's going to be a hall of famer or anything crazy. I've argued he's capable of being a good qb in the league and every qb needs help, even whoever you think is the greatest qb of all time.

Part of the reason I defended him so much is I want my team to be good again. I don't believe you can fix something if you can't identify the problem. Jones was an easy scapegoat for years while people ignored the offensive line. In 2023, the year after he signed his contract, he played behind one of the worst offensive lines in NFL history. But all we heard about was how bad Jones was. People weren't identifying the obvious problem and wanted to run Jones out of town. Jones is gone and the problem hasn't fixed itself because he was never the main problem.

 

[Absolutego]

Because Dan Campbell isn't an X's and O's guy. He's a culture guy. You can scheme effective mitigations against a X's and O's guy because that part of the game is basically Chess x Rock/Paper/Scissors. Sure, there are guys who can scheme REALLY well, but there's always a counter. And a counter to a counter and so on. However, you can't really scheme against a dude who sustains himself, and therefore the team, on 3 pots of coffee, gobs of nicotine, and a stated intent to bite kneecaps off. I do not like the Lions, but I LOVE Dan Campbell.

You summed up perfectly why Shanahan's 49ers yo-yo so bad between seasons. Dude is an offensive genius, able to scheme rosters wide open on offense, but he's also a reclusive introvert and not the greatest leader of men, so when his team gets injured and he's down to secondary talent, morale falls apart a bit. Aaron Glen got all the credit last year from sports media and the Jets fell for the meme, but the reason the Lions were the 1 seed last season despite half their starting defense being on IR is because of Campbell.
This is also why Pete Carroll was able to maintain a postseason streak throughout most of his time in Seattle, despite most of his defensive stars blaming him and the QB for losing SB 49 before self-destructing out of town, and despite never really adjusting his defensive playcalling for, like, a decade. Pete's cover 3 was old and found out by the time he left us (and tbh was extremely talent-dependent even at its peak), but he got absolute randoms to ball out for a season or two before going right back to mediocrity on a different team. It's why despite a rocky start I still think his Raiders are going to look better by season's end than they did last year.

 

[VasonJoorhees]

Well the Lions win at least counts as one good thing happening today.

Seven sacks on Lamar is insane. Ravens oline got exposed; they've been bad for a while but this fact is masked by Lamar's elusiveness. Seems the Lions defense figured out if you ignore Lamar's pump fakes and follow through he's fucked, and he was clearly rattled after he got got a few times.

Also a fun fact I was reminded of thank to Reddit: yesterday 9/23 marked the 24th anniversary of Drew Bledsoe getting injured in the Pats vs Jets game. The pats had no choice but to put in some shmuck they picked 199th in the draft as their QB. Jets fans were likely ecstatic about Drew's injury at the time, but little did they know they had just created a monster:

 

[Froggy Fresh Sextape]

Yeah but they have Baker who is probably the most underrated QB in the NFL (well, him and Goff probably). I would take Baker over Burrow in a heartbeat, and yet people insist on making Burrow a top 3 QB for some reason.

Burrow will have played something like 11 games in the past two seasons. I don't think he can really be considered a top 5 QB anymore. That turf toe injury was his fault too since he pulled a Russ and scrambled back into the pocket. Yeah, their OL sucks but you can't be doing that, they don't know where you are.

 

[xX Puss Slayer Xx]

It's why despite a rocky start I still think his Raiders are going to look better by season's end than they did last year.

The Raiders have had the opposite problem, everyone who leaves them balls tf out. Been watching Jon Grudens game previews and that mfer points out every dude he drafted thats playing good for another team, which happens enough its noticable

 

[Xavier Renegade Angel]

Burrow will have played something like 11 games in the past two seasons. I don't think he can really be considered a top 5 QB anymore. That turf toe injury was his fault too since he pulled a Russ and scrambled back into the pocket. Yeah, their OL sucks but you can't be doing that, they don't know where you are.

Burrows gotta request a trade, right?

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

I have for years defended Daniel Jones as not being the main problem on the Giants. I have correctly pointed out that they have had bad offensive lines (some historically bad) and that affects QB more than talking heads could ever articulate. They have had retarded coaches and play callers. Daboll wants to go deep every play but the protection breaks down in lesss than a second. They have had retarded roster building and management. They can't develop players, but everyone becomes better when they leave the team. People wanted to ignore the millions of warning signs and wanted to blame Jones just because he was the QB. QBs get way too much credit and blame. In this case, way too much blame.

When he signed with the Colts, people I knew told me how upset they are and how the Colts are done. I told them not to believe what they read, and if he starts, he will suprise them. I often looked like a doomsday prepper to people when I told them that Jones is not the main problem, there's alot of rot around him. I am so happy to be vindicated after all these years. I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!

Spoiler

I'm not saying he's going to be a hall of famer or anything crazy. I've argued he's capable of being a good qb in the league and every qb needs help, even whoever you think is the greatest qb of all time.

Part of the reason I defended him so much is I want my team to be good again. I don't believe you can fix something if you can't identify the problem. Jones was an easy scapegoat for years while people ignored the offensive line. In 2023, the year after he signed his contract, he played behind one of the worst offensive lines in NFL history. But all we heard about was how bad Jones was. People weren't identifying the obvious problem and wanted to run Jones out of town. Jones is gone and the problem hasn't fixed itself because he was never the main problem.

The problem is obviously that MetLife sucks and Daniel Jones is the spiritual successor to Payton rather than Eli.

 

[Froggy Fresh Sextape]

Burrows gotta request a trade, right?

idk if he'd want to go anywhere without his best buddy Jamarr

Weirder things have happened. Broncos could technically take them both next season with a bit of restructuring Jamarr's contract but they'd have to send every draft pick in existence to the Bengals.

 

[Zaryiu2]

@HodgePodgeRogerDodger (can't reply to you)
So what you are saying is thr Colts will fuck over Daniel Jones like they did to Payton?

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

Burrows gotta request a trade, right?

That dumb motherfucker lobbied for the Bengals to spend all their money on two overpriced receivers instead of investing into a proper o-line. As far as I'm concerned, Glass Joe should have to live with the consequences.

 

[Xavier Renegade Angel]

@HodgePodgeRogerDodger (can't reply to you)
So what you are saying is thr Colts will fuck over Daniel Jones like they did to Payton?

That dumb motherfucker lobbied for the Bengals to spend all their money on two overpriced receivers instead of investing into a proper o-line. As far as I'm concerned, Glass Joe should have to live with the consequences.

The colts fuck3d over the best qb prospect Andrew luck and sadly I see the Bengals doing the same to Burrow. But if Burrow really thought receivers are more important then an oline hes an idiot.

 

[Froggy Fresh Sextape]

But if Burrow really thought receivers are more important then an oline hes an idiot.

He definitely wanted to get his boys paid.

Though even if the Bengals did try to fix their OL there's no guarantee they could do it. Giants and Dolphins have both thrown a ton of resources at it and they're still horror shows. There's just not enough talent.

e: Pete Carroll has complained that you need to start at square one with linemen coming out of college these days. If the NFL wants to fix this they should probably increase practice squad sizes and just let teams shove them full of guys with good measurables and see who can figure it out after a year.

 

[Absolutego]

He definitely wanted to get his boys paid.

Though even if the Bengals did try to fix their OL there's no guarantee they could do it. Giants and Dolphins have both thrown a ton of resources at it and they're still horror shows. There's just not enough talent.

e: Pete Carroll has complained that you need to start at square one with linemen coming out of college these days. If the NFL wants to fix this they should probably increase practice squad sizes and just let teams shove them full of guys with good measurables and see who can figure it out after a year.

Pete Carroll is really not who you want to be listening to when it comes to what's needed to develop offensive linemen.
Ask someone like Jeff Stoutland or Dante Scarnecchia what they did right.